Carlsen or Nepomniachtchi – Who will win?

AlexChess · Post by **AlexChess** » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:11 pm

AdminX wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:02 pm Game 5

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[Event "FIDE World Championship 2021"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021.12.01"]
[Round "5.1"]
[White "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C88"]
[WhiteElo "2782"]
[BlackElo "2855"]
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1. e4 {8} e5 {6} 2. Nf3 {5} Nc6 {5} 3. Bb5 {3} a6 {8} 4. Ba4 {4} Nf6 {10} 5.
O-O {7} Be7 {7} 6. Re1 {4} b5 {10} 7. Bb3 {6 White until here White until here}
O-O {10} 8. a4 {3} Rb8 {53} 9. axb5 {19} axb5 {4} 10. h3 {7} d6 {77} 11. c3 {16
} b4 {185} 12. d3 {29} bxc3 {192} 13. bxc3 {6} d5 {307} 14. Nbd2 {28} dxe4 {355
} 15. dxe4 {15} Bd6 {199} 16. Qc2 {342} h6 {467} 17. Nf1 {43} Ne7 {557} 18. Ng3
{199} Ng6 {113} 19. Be3 {123} Qe8 {1164} 20. Red1 {635} Be6 {119} 21. Ba4 {111}
Bd7 {182} 22. Nd2 {1103} Bxa4 {156} 23. Qxa4 {24} Qxa4 {13} 24. Rxa4 {4} Ra8 {8
} 25. Rda1 {48} Rxa4 {11} 26. Rxa4 {5} Rb8 {10} 27. Ra6 {328} Ne8 {660} 28. Kf1
{254} Nf8 {273} 29. Nf5 {165} Ne6 {73} 30. Nc4 {82} Rd8 {250} 31. f3 {673} f6 {
118} 32. g4 {357} Kf7 {12} 33. h4 {22} Bf8 {26} 34. Ke2 {19} Nd6 {12} 35.
Ncxd6+ {266} Bxd6 {2} 36. h5 {10} Bf8 {25} 37. Ra5 {579} Ke8 {9} 38. Rd5 {46}
Ra8 {15} 39. Rd1 {86} Ra2+ {33} 40. Rd2 {0} Ra1 {0} 41. Rd1 {406} Ra2+ $11 {30}
42. Rd2 {5} Ra1 {7} 43. Rd1 {32} 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

I think that the match is just started (also if Carlsen seems already tired

) . Too fast draws. If Nepo will win the first game the challenge will become much more interesting. If it will lose 1 game, the mach will become really boring, because Carlsen will easily control all remaining games, especially during endgames.

Best regards, Alex

Chessqueen · Post by **Chessqueen** » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:42 pm

They kept on saying that if GM Nepo would have played 20. c4 ! that Carlsen was going to be in Big trouble, well lets see if Komodo Dragon 2.5.1 continue the game. https://chessbase.in/news/World-Chess-C ... sen-Game-5

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[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C88"]
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1. e4 {8} e5 {6} 2. Nf3 {5} Nc6 {5} 3. Bb5 {3} a6 {8} 4. Ba4 {4} Nf6 {10} 5.
O-O {7} Be7 {7} 6. Re1 {4} b5 {10} 7. Bb3 {6 White until here White until here}
O-O {10} 8. a4 {3} Rb8 {53} 9. axb5 {19} axb5 {4} 10. h3 {7} d6 {77} 11. c3 {16
} b4 {185} 12. d3 {29} bxc3 {192} 13. bxc3 {6} d5 {307} 14. Nbd2 {28} dxe4 {355
} 15. dxe4 {15} Bd6 {199} 16. Qc2 {342} h6 {467} 17. Nf1 {43} Ne7 {557} 18. Ng3
{199} Ng6 {113} 19. Be3 {123} Qe8 {1164}

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[Date "2021.12.02"]
[Round "?"]
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1. c4 Be6 2. Ba4 Qc8 3. c5 Be7 4. Reb1 Rxb1+ 5. Qxb1 Qb8 6. Bb5 Rd8 7. c6
Ne8 8. Ba7 Qa8 9. Nf5 Bf8 10. Qc2 Nd6 11. Bf1 Re8 12. Ng3 f6 13. Bd4 Qb8
14. Be3 Bb3 15. Qc1 Bf7 16. Nd2 Rd8 17. Qc2 Kh7 18. Kh2 Ne7 19. Be2 Kh8 20.
Nf3 Qb3 21. Qc1 Nc4 22. Bc5 Nxc6 23. Bxf8 Rxf8 24. Nf5 Nd4 25. N3xd4 exd4
26. Bxc4 Qxc4 27. Qxc4 Bxc4 28. Rc1 Bd3 29. f3 Rd8 30. Rxc7 Bb5 31. Rc2 d3
32. Rd2 Rc8 33. Nd4 Ba6 34. g4 Rc1 35. Kg3 g6 36. h4 Rg1+ 37. Kf4 Rh1 38.
h5 gxh5 39. gxh5 Rh4+ 40. Kf5 Kg7 41. Ke6 Rxh5 42. Ke7 Bc8 43. Rxd3 Re5+
44. Kd8 Bh3 45. Kc7 h5 46. Rd2 Re7+ 47. Kd6 Rd7+ 48. Kc5 Rc7+ 49. Kd6 Rd7+
50. Kc5 Rc7+ 51. Kd6 Rd7+ {3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2[/pgn][/pgn]

Chessqueen · Post by **Chessqueen** » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:43 pm

They kept on saying that if GM Nepo would have played 20. c4 ! that Carlsen was going to be in Big Trouble, well lets see if Komodo Dragon 2.5.1 continue the game. Honestly it would have caused Carlsen much greater of a challenge, but I still believe that Carlsen at the end would have found a way to end up drawing the game https://chessbase.in/news/World-Chess-C ... sen-Game-5

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1. c4 Be6 2. Ba4 Qc8 3. c5 Be7 4. Reb1 Rxb1+ 5. Qxb1 Qb8 6. Bb5 Rd8 7. c6
Ne8 8. Ba7 Qa8 9. Nf5 Bf8 10. Qc2 Nd6 11. Bf1 Re8 12. Ng3 f6 13. Bd4 Qb8
14. Be3 Bb3 15. Qc1 Bf7 16. Nd2 Rd8 17. Qc2 Kh7 18. Kh2 Ne7 19. Be2 Kh8 20.
Nf3 Qb3 21. Qc1 Nc4 22. Bc5 Nxc6 23. Bxf8 Rxf8 24. Nf5 Nd4 25. N3xd4 exd4
26. Bxc4 Qxc4 27. Qxc4 Bxc4 28. Rc1 Bd3 29. f3 Rd8 30. Rxc7 Bb5 31. Rc2 d3
32. Rd2 Rc8 33. Nd4 Ba6 34. g4 Rc1 35. Kg3 g6 36. h4 Rg1+ 37. Kf4 Rh1 38.
h5 gxh5 39. gxh5 Rh4+ 40. Kf5 Kg7 41. Ke6 Rxh5 42. Ke7 Bc8 43. Rxd3 Re5+
44. Kd8 Bh3 45. Kc7 h5 46. Rd2 Re7+ 47. Kd6 Rd7+ 48. Kc5 Rc7+ 49. Kd6 Rd7+
50. Kc5 Rc7+ 51. Kd6 Rd7+ {3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2
[/quote][/pgn]

Chessqueen · Post by **Chessqueen** » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:58 am

Chessqueen wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:43 pm They kept on saying that if GM Nepo would have played 20. c4 ! that Carlsen was going to be in Big Trouble, well lets see if Komodo Dragon 2.5.1 continue the game. Honestly it would have caused Carlsen much greater of a challenge, but I still believe that Carlsen at the end would have found a way to end up drawing the game https://chessbase.in/news/World-Chess-C ... sen-Game-5. In honor to Magnus Carlsen, a statue of him will be built in Frogner Park starting in 2022 playing Chess

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1. c4 Be6 2. Ba4 Qc8 3. c5 Be7 4. Reb1 Rxb1+ 5. Qxb1 Qb8 6. Bb5 Rd8 7. c6
Ne8 8. Ba7 Qa8 9. Nf5 Bf8 10. Qc2 Nd6 11. Bf1 Re8 12. Ng3 f6 13. Bd4 Qb8
14. Be3 Bb3 15. Qc1 Bf7 16. Nd2 Rd8 17. Qc2 Kh7 18. Kh2 Ne7 19. Be2 Kh8 20.
Nf3 Qb3 21. Qc1 Nc4 22. Bc5 Nxc6 23. Bxf8 Rxf8 24. Nf5 Nd4 25. N3xd4 exd4
26. Bxc4 Qxc4 27. Qxc4 Bxc4 28. Rc1 Bd3 29. f3 Rd8 30. Rxc7 Bb5 31. Rc2 d3
32. Rd2 Rc8 33. Nd4 Ba6 34. g4 Rc1 35. Kg3 g6 36. h4 Rg1+ 37. Kf4 Rh1 38.
h5 gxh5 39. gxh5 Rh4+ 40. Kf5 Kg7 41. Ke6 Rxh5 42. Ke7 Bc8 43. Rxd3 Re5+
44. Kd8 Bh3 45. Kc7 h5 46. Rd2 Re7+ 47. Kd6 Rd7+ 48. Kc5 Rc7+ 49. Kd6 Rd7+
50. Kc5 Rc7+ 51. Kd6 Rd7+ {3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

AlexChess · Post by **AlexChess** » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:17 pm

Chessqueen wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:43 pm They kept on saying that if GM Nepo would have played 20. c4 ! that Carlsen was going to be in Big Trouble, well lets see if Komodo Dragon 2.5.1 continue the game. Honestly it would have caused Carlsen much greater of a challenge, but I still believe that Carlsen at the end would have found a way to end up drawing the game https://chessbase.in/news/World-Chess-C ... sen-Game-5

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1. c4 Be6 2. Ba4 Qc8 3. c5 Be7 4. Reb1 Rxb1+ 5. Qxb1 Qb8 6. Bb5 Rd8 7. c6
Ne8 8. Ba7 Qa8 9. Nf5 Bf8 10. Qc2 Nd6 11. Bf1 Re8 12. Ng3 f6 13. Bd4 Qb8
14. Be3 Bb3 15. Qc1 Bf7 16. Nd2 Rd8 17. Qc2 Kh7 18. Kh2 Ne7 19. Be2 Kh8 20.
Nf3 Qb3 21. Qc1 Nc4 22. Bc5 Nxc6 23. Bxf8 Rxf8 24. Nf5 Nd4 25. N3xd4 exd4
26. Bxc4 Qxc4 27. Qxc4 Bxc4 28. Rc1 Bd3 29. f3 Rd8 30. Rxc7 Bb5 31. Rc2 d3
32. Rd2 Rc8 33. Nd4 Ba6 34. g4 Rc1 35. Kg3 g6 36. h4 Rg1+ 37. Kf4 Rh1 38.
h5 gxh5 39. gxh5 Rh4+ 40. Kf5 Kg7 41. Ke6 Rxh5 42. Ke7 Bc8 43. Rxd3 Re5+
44. Kd8 Bh3 45. Kc7 h5 46. Rd2 Re7+ 47. Kd6 Rd7+ 48. Kc5 Rc7+ 49. Kd6 Rd7+
50. Kc5 Rc7+ 51. Kd6 Rd7+ {3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

Imteresting idea, not only make engine analise the whole game, but let them to continue from a position

Chessqueen · Post by **Chessqueen** » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:11 pm

Komodo has Carlsen winning by 9.15 at the moment, but this game broke the longest previous World championship game ever played between Korchnoi Vs Karpov in 1974 124 Moves.

AdminX · Post by **AdminX** » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:17 pm

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[Event "FIDE World Championship 2021"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021.12.03"]
[Round "6.1"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D02"]
[WhiteElo "2855"]
[BlackElo "2782"]
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1. d4 {3} Nf6 {9} 2. Nf3 {4} d5 {16} 3. g3 {8} e6 {226} 4. Bg2 {7} Be7 {6} 5.
O-O {6} O-O {13} 6. b3 {9} c5 {62} 7. dxc5 {23} Bxc5 {12} 8. c4 {8} dxc4 {408}
9. Qc2 {24} Qe7 {150} 10. Nbd2 {91} Nc6 {780} 11. Nxc4 {749} b5 {460} 12. Nce5
{1257} Nb4 {111} 13. Qb2 $1 {218} Bb7 {120} 14. a3 {26} Nc6 {458} 15. Nd3 {208}
Bb6 {170} 16. Bg5 {274} Rfd8 {48} 17. Bxf6 {212} gxf6 {389} 18. Rac1 {182} Nd4
{546} 19. Nxd4 {145} Bxd4 {36} 20. Qa2 $1 {16} Bxg2 {71} 21. Kxg2 {2} Qb7+ {133
} 22. Kg1 {124} Qe4 {177} 23. Qc2 {204} a5 {453} 24. Rfd1 {630} Kg7 {85} 25.
Rd2 {1343} Rac8 {297} 26. Qxc8 {296} Rxc8 {18} 27. Rxc8 {2} Qd5 {6} 28. b4 {68}
(28. e3 $5 Be5 29. b4 $11) 28... a4 {42} 29. e3 {484} Be5 {241} 30. h4 {189} h5
{255} 31. Kh2 {202} Bb2 {544} 32. Rc5 {3} ({Much worse is} 32. Rxb2 $6 Qxd3 33.
Ra2 Qb3 $11) 32... Qd6 {263 [#]} (32... Qd7 $142) 33. Rd1 $2 {3} ({Don't play}
33. Rxb2 $6 Qxd3 34. Ra2 (34. Rxh5 $2 Qxa3 35. Rc2 Qxb4 $19) 34... Qb3 $11) (
33. Rxh5 Qd7 34. Rxb2 Qxd3 $15) (33. Rcc2 $1 $16 {is necessary to keep the
advantage.} Bxa3 34. Nf4 Qxb4 35. Rd8) 33... Bxa3 {41} 34. Rxb5 {3} Qd7 $17 {
123} 35. Rc5 {22 [#]} ({Wrong is} 35. Rxh5 $2 e5 36. e4 {[#]} Bxb4 $1 $19)
35... e5 {216} ({Better is} 35... Bxb4 $1 $17 36. Rcc1 (36. Rxh5 $2 a3 $19)
36... Ba5) 36. Rc2 {85 [#]} (36. e4 $1 $15) 36... Qd5 $2 {92} (36... Bxb4 $1
$17 37. Rcc1 Ba3) 37. Rdd2 {28} Qb3 {36} 38. Ra2 {10} e4 {59} 39. Nc5 {2} Qxb4
{3} 40. Nxe4 {0} Qb3 {0} 41. Rac2 {986} Bf8 {118} 42. Nc5 {413} Qb5 {218} 43.
Nd3 {21} a3 {159} 44. Nf4 {142} Qa5 {125} 45. Ra2 {105} Bb4 {80} 46. Rd3 {204}
Kh6 {444} 47. Rd1 {227} Qa4 {168} 48. Rda1 {34} Bd6 {96} 49. Kg1 {2} Qb3 {187}
50. Ne2 {69} Qd3 {144} 51. Nd4 {38} Kh7 {64} 52. Kh2 {123} Qe4 {32} (52... Kh6
$11) 53. Rxa3 {436} Qxh4+ $1 {110} ({Don't play} 53... Bxa3 54. Rxa3 Kh6 55.
Ra6 $16) 54. Kg1 {3} Qe4 {145} 55. Ra4 $1 {105} Be5 {191} 56. Ne2 {39} Qc2 {201
} (56... Qc6 $11 {keeps the balance.}) 57. R1a2 $1 {41} Qb3 {225} 58. Kg2 {43}
Qd5+ {95} 59. f3 {341} Qd1 {223} 60. f4 {0} (60. Nf4 $5) 60... Bc7 {0} 61. Kf2
{335} Bb6 {148} 62. Ra1 {41} (62. Rb4 $5 Qd5 63. Rab2 $14) 62... Qb3 {89} 63.
Re4 {107} Kg7 {499} 64. Re8 {57} f5 {70} 65. Raa8 {77} Qb4 {388} 66. Rac8 {201}
Ba5 {150} 67. Rc1 {11} Bb6 {27} 68. Re5 {10} Qb3 $1 {54} ({Don't play} 68...
Qd2 69. Rb1 f6 70. Re7+ Kf8 71. Re6 $16) 69. Re8 {194} Qd5 {41} 70. Rcc8 {79}
Qh1 {42} 71. Rc1 {117} Qd5 {5} 72. Rb1 {24} Ba7 {114} (72... Bc7 $11) 73. Re7 {
68} Bc5 {50} 74. Re5 {58} Qd3 $1 {5} 75. Rb7 {206} Qc2 {53} 76. Rb5 {15} Ba7 {
26} 77. Ra5 {8} (77. Rbd5 $14 {should be considered.}) 77... Bb6 {11} 78. Rab5
{4} Ba7 {4} {Resist} 79. Rxf5 {28} Qd3 {26 [#]} 80. Rxf7+ $1 {41} (80. Rg5+ Kf8
$11) 80... Kxf7 {5} 81. Rb7+ {6} Kg6 {58} (81... Ke8 82. Rxa7 Qd1 $16) 82. Rxa7
{2} Qd5 {26} 83. Ra6+ {64} ({Better is} 83. Nd4 $14) 83... Kh7 {62} 84. Ra1 {9}
Kg6 {35} 85. Nd4 {3} Qb7 {36} 86. Ra2 {42} Qh1 {42} 87. Ra6+ {7} Kf7 {59} 88.
Nf3 {7} Qb1 {29} 89. Rd6 {13} Kg7 {11} 90. Rd5 {39} Qa2+ {13} 91. Rd2 {2} Qb1 {
5} 92. Re2 {16} Qb6 {55} 93. Rc2 {81} Qb1 {16} 94. Nd4 {25} Qh1 {14} 95. Rc7+ {
29} Kf6 {10} 96. Rc6+ {50} Kf7 {30} 97. Nf3 {35} Qb1 {14} 98. Ng5+ {44} Kg7 {24
} 99. Ne6+ {98} Kf7 {13} 100. Nd4 {6} Qh1 {35} 101. Rc7+ {26} Kf6 {6} 102. Nf3
{40} Qb1 {10} 103. Rd7 {26} Qb2+ {42} 104. Rd2 {46} Qb1 {4} 105. Ng1 {95} Qb4 {
81} 106. Rd1 {11} Qb3 {23} 107. Rd6+ {5} Kg7 {78} 108. Rd4 {27} Qb2+ {122} 109.
Ne2 {8} Qb1 {5} 110. e4 {76} Qh1 {36} 111. Rd7+ {36} Kg8 {38} 112. Rd4 {26}
Qh2+ {17} 113. Ke3 {8} h4 {47} 114. gxh4 {2} Qh3+ {7} 115. Kd2 {9} Qxh4 {4}
116. Rd3 {18} Kf8 {55} 117. Rf3 {53} Qd8+ {9} 118. Ke3 {37} Qa5 {61} 119. Kf2 {
10} Qa7+ {39} 120. Re3 {8} Qd7 {51} 121. Ng3 {27} Qd2+ {11} 122. Kf3 $1 {16}
Qd1+ {2} 123. Re2 {18} Qb3+ {7} 124. Kg2 {13} Qb7 {16} 125. Rd2 {16} Qb3 {58}
126. Rd5 {141} Ke7 {46} 127. Re5+ {30} Kf7 {29} 128. Rf5+ {18} Ke8 {44} 129. e5
{9} Qa2+ {73} 130. Kh3 {7} Qe6 {5} 131. Kh4 {17} Qh6+ {34 [#]} (131... Qa2 $1
$11) 132. Nh5 $1 {20} Qh7 $2 {55 [#]} (132... Ke7 $16 {is tougher.} 133. Rf6
Qh8) 133. e6 $1 {111} Qg6 $2 {119} (133... Qb7 $16) 134. Rf7 {41} Kd8 {49} 135.
f5 {24} Qg1 {24} 136. Ng7 {13} 1-0
[/pgn]

Ajedrecista · Post by **Ajedrecista** » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:33 pm

Hello:

Chessqueen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:11 pm Komodo has Carlsen winning by 9.15 at the moment, but this game broke the longest previous World championship game ever played between Korchnoi Vs Karpov in 1974 124 Moves.

That game was played in 1978:

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1068051

------------

AdminX wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:17 pm [pgn]
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[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021.12.03"]
[Round "6.1"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D02"]
[WhiteElo "2855"]
[BlackElo "2782"]
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O-O {6} O-O {13} 6. b3 {9} c5 {62} 7. dxc5 {23} Bxc5 {12} 8. c4 {8} dxc4 {408}
9. Qc2 {24} Qe7 {150} 10. Nbd2 {91} Nc6 {780} 11. Nxc4 {749} b5 {460} 12. Nce5
{1257} Nb4 {111} 13. Qb2 $1 {218} Bb7 {120} 14. a3 {26} Nc6 {458} 15. Nd3 {208}
Bb6 {170} 16. Bg5 {274} Rfd8 {48} 17. Bxf6 {212} gxf6 {389} 18. Rac1 {182} Nd4
{546} 19. Nxd4 {145} Bxd4 {36} 20. Qa2 $1 {16} Bxg2 {71} 21. Kxg2 {2} Qb7+ {133
} 22. Kg1 {124} Qe4 {177} 23. Qc2 {204} a5 {453} 24. Rfd1 {630} Kg7 {85} 25.
Rd2 {1343} Rac8 {297} 26. Qxc8 {296} Rxc8 {18} 27. Rxc8 {2} Qd5 {6} 28. b4 {68}
(28. e3 $5 Be5 29. b4 $11) 28... a4 {42} 29. e3 {484} Be5 {241} 30. h4 {189} h5
{255} 31. Kh2 {202} Bb2 {544} 32. Rc5 {3} ({Much worse is} 32. Rxb2 $6 Qxd3 33.
Ra2 Qb3 $11) 32... Qd6 {263 [#]} (32... Qd7 $142) 33. Rd1 $2 {3} ({Don't play}
33. Rxb2 $6 Qxd3 34. Ra2 (34. Rxh5 $2 Qxa3 35. Rc2 Qxb4 $19) 34... Qb3 $11) (
33. Rxh5 Qd7 34. Rxb2 Qxd3 $15) (33. Rcc2 $1 $16 {is necessary to keep the
advantage.} Bxa3 34. Nf4 Qxb4 35. Rd8) 33... Bxa3 {41} 34. Rxb5 {3} Qd7 $17 {
123} 35. Rc5 {22 [#]} ({Wrong is} 35. Rxh5 $2 e5 36. e4 {[#]} Bxb4 $1 $19)
35... e5 {216} ({Better is} 35... Bxb4 $1 $17 36. Rcc1 (36. Rxh5 $2 a3 $19)
36... Ba5) 36. Rc2 {85 [#]} (36. e4 $1 $15) 36... Qd5 $2 {92} (36... Bxb4 $1
$17 37. Rcc1 Ba3) 37. Rdd2 {28} Qb3 {36} 38. Ra2 {10} e4 {59} 39. Nc5 {2} Qxb4
{3} 40. Nxe4 {0} Qb3 {0} 41. Rac2 {986} Bf8 {118} 42. Nc5 {413} Qb5 {218} 43.
Nd3 {21} a3 {159} 44. Nf4 {142} Qa5 {125} 45. Ra2 {105} Bb4 {80} 46. Rd3 {204}
Kh6 {444} 47. Rd1 {227} Qa4 {168} 48. Rda1 {34} Bd6 {96} 49. Kg1 {2} Qb3 {187}
50. Ne2 {69} Qd3 {144} 51. Nd4 {38} Kh7 {64} 52. Kh2 {123} Qe4 {32} (52... Kh6
$11) 53. Rxa3 {436} Qxh4+ $1 {110} ({Don't play} 53... Bxa3 54. Rxa3 Kh6 55.
Ra6 $16) 54. Kg1 {3} Qe4 {145} 55. Ra4 $1 {105} Be5 {191} 56. Ne2 {39} Qc2 {201
} (56... Qc6 $11 {keeps the balance.}) 57. R1a2 $1 {41} Qb3 {225} 58. Kg2 {43}
Qd5+ {95} 59. f3 {341} Qd1 {223} 60. f4 {0} (60. Nf4 $5) 60... Bc7 {0} 61. Kf2
{335} Bb6 {148} 62. Ra1 {41} (62. Rb4 $5 Qd5 63. Rab2 $14) 62... Qb3 {89} 63.
Re4 {107} Kg7 {499} 64. Re8 {57} f5 {70} 65. Raa8 {77} Qb4 {388} 66. Rac8 {201}
Ba5 {150} 67. Rc1 {11} Bb6 {27} 68. Re5 {10} Qb3 $1 {54} ({Don't play} 68...
Qd2 69. Rb1 f6 70. Re7+ Kf8 71. Re6 $16) 69. Re8 {194} Qd5 {41} 70. Rcc8 {79}
Qh1 {42} 71. Rc1 {117} Qd5 {5} 72. Rb1 {24} Ba7 {114} (72... Bc7 $11) 73. Re7 {
68} Bc5 {50} 74. Re5 {58} Qd3 $1 {5} 75. Rb7 {206} Qc2 {53} 76. Rb5 {15} Ba7 {
26} 77. Ra5 {8} (77. Rbd5 $14 {should be considered.}) 77... Bb6 {11} 78. Rab5
{4} Ba7 {4} {Resist} 79. Rxf5 {28} Qd3 {26 [#]} 80. Rxf7+ $1 {41} (80. Rg5+ Kf8
$11) 80... Kxf7 {5} 81. Rb7+ {6} Kg6 {58} (81... Ke8 82. Rxa7 Qd1 $16) 82. Rxa7
{2} Qd5 {26} 83. Ra6+ {64} ({Better is} 83. Nd4 $14) 83... Kh7 {62} 84. Ra1 {9}
Kg6 {35} 85. Nd4 {3} Qb7 {36} 86. Ra2 {42} Qh1 {42} 87. Ra6+ {7} Kf7 {59} 88.
Nf3 {7} Qb1 {29} 89. Rd6 {13} Kg7 {11} 90. Rd5 {39} Qa2+ {13} 91. Rd2 {2} Qb1 {
5} 92. Re2 {16} Qb6 {55} 93. Rc2 {81} Qb1 {16} 94. Nd4 {25} Qh1 {14} 95. Rc7+ {
29} Kf6 {10} 96. Rc6+ {50} Kf7 {30} 97. Nf3 {35} Qb1 {14} 98. Ng5+ {44} Kg7 {24
} 99. Ne6+ {98} Kf7 {13} 100. Nd4 {6} Qh1 {35} 101. Rc7+ {26} Kf6 {6} 102. Nf3
{40} Qb1 {10} 103. Rd7 {26} Qb2+ {42} 104. Rd2 {46} Qb1 {4} 105. Ng1 {95} Qb4 {
81} 106. Rd1 {11} Qb3 {23} 107. Rd6+ {5} Kg7 {78} 108. Rd4 {27} Qb2+ {122} 109.
Ne2 {8} Qb1 {5} 110. e4 {76} Qh1 {36} 111. Rd7+ {36} Kg8 {38} 112. Rd4 {26}
Qh2+ {17} 113. Ke3 {8} h4 {47} 114. gxh4 {2} Qh3+ {7} 115. Kd2 {9} Qxh4 {4}
116. Rd3 {18} Kf8 {55} 117. Rf3 {53} Qd8+ {9} 118. Ke3 {37} Qa5 {61} 119. Kf2 {
10} Qa7+ {39} 120. Re3 {8} Qd7 {51} 121. Ng3 {27} Qd2+ {11} 122. Kf3 $1 {16}
Qd1+ {2} 123. Re2 {18} Qb3+ {7} 124. Kg2 {13} Qb7 {16} 125. Rd2 {16} Qb3 {58}
126. Rd5 {141} Ke7 {46} 127. Re5+ {30} Kf7 {29} 128. Rf5+ {18} Ke8 {44} 129. e5
{9} Qa2+ {73} 130. Kh3 {7} Qe6 {5} 131. Kh4 {17} Qh6+ {34 [#]} (131... Qa2 $1
$11) 132. Nh5 $1 {20} Qh7 $2 {55 [#]} (132... Ke7 $16 {is tougher.} 133. Rf6
Qh8) 133. e6 $1 {111} Qg6 $2 {119} (133... Qb7 $16) 134. Rf7 {41} Kd8 {49} 135.
f5 {24} Qg1 {24} 136. Ng7 {13} 1-0
[/pgn]

Regarding the game of today, it looks like the losing move was 130.- ..., Qe6, where only 130.-..., Qb1 and 130.- ..., Qc2 draw:

https://syzygy-tables.info/?fen=4k3/8/8 ... _-_-_2_130

This game will be remembered forever. Both played really, really well once reached the first time control... until this mistake.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

AlexChess · Post by **AlexChess** » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:58 pm

Ajedrecista wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:33 pm Hello:

Chessqueen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:11 pm Komodo has Carlsen winning by 9.15 at the moment, but this game broke the longest previous World championship game ever played between Korchnoi Vs Karpov in 1974 124 Moves.
That game was played in 1978:

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1068051

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AdminX wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:17 pm [pgn]
[Event "FIDE World Championship 2021"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2021.12.03"]
[Round "6.1"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Nepomniachtchi, Ian"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D02"]
[WhiteElo "2855"]
[BlackElo "2782"]
[Annotator "ChessBase"]
[PlyCount "271"]
[EventDate "2021.11.25"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventCountry "UAE"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceQuality "1"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 {3} Nf6 {9} 2. Nf3 {4} d5 {16} 3. g3 {8} e6 {226} 4. Bg2 {7} Be7 {6} 5.
O-O {6} O-O {13} 6. b3 {9} c5 {62} 7. dxc5 {23} Bxc5 {12} 8. c4 {8} dxc4 {408}
9. Qc2 {24} Qe7 {150} 10. Nbd2 {91} Nc6 {780} 11. Nxc4 {749} b5 {460} 12. Nce5
{1257} Nb4 {111} 13. Qb2 $1 {218} Bb7 {120} 14. a3 {26} Nc6 {458} 15. Nd3 {208}
Bb6 {170} 16. Bg5 {274} Rfd8 {48} 17. Bxf6 {212} gxf6 {389} 18. Rac1 {182} Nd4
{546} 19. Nxd4 {145} Bxd4 {36} 20. Qa2 $1 {16} Bxg2 {71} 21. Kxg2 {2} Qb7+ {133
} 22. Kg1 {124} Qe4 {177} 23. Qc2 {204} a5 {453} 24. Rfd1 {630} Kg7 {85} 25.
Rd2 {1343} Rac8 {297} 26. Qxc8 {296} Rxc8 {18} 27. Rxc8 {2} Qd5 {6} 28. b4 {68}
(28. e3 $5 Be5 29. b4 $11) 28... a4 {42} 29. e3 {484} Be5 {241} 30. h4 {189} h5
{255} 31. Kh2 {202} Bb2 {544} 32. Rc5 {3} ({Much worse is} 32. Rxb2 $6 Qxd3 33.
Ra2 Qb3 $11) 32... Qd6 {263 [#]} (32... Qd7 $142) 33. Rd1 $2 {3} ({Don't play}
33. Rxb2 $6 Qxd3 34. Ra2 (34. Rxh5 $2 Qxa3 35. Rc2 Qxb4 $19) 34... Qb3 $11) (
33. Rxh5 Qd7 34. Rxb2 Qxd3 $15) (33. Rcc2 $1 $16 {is necessary to keep the
advantage.} Bxa3 34. Nf4 Qxb4 35. Rd8) 33... Bxa3 {41} 34. Rxb5 {3} Qd7 $17 {
123} 35. Rc5 {22 [#]} ({Wrong is} 35. Rxh5 $2 e5 36. e4 {[#]} Bxb4 $1 $19)
35... e5 {216} ({Better is} 35... Bxb4 $1 $17 36. Rcc1 (36. Rxh5 $2 a3 $19)
36... Ba5) 36. Rc2 {85 [#]} (36. e4 $1 $15) 36... Qd5 $2 {92} (36... Bxb4 $1
$17 37. Rcc1 Ba3) 37. Rdd2 {28} Qb3 {36} 38. Ra2 {10} e4 {59} 39. Nc5 {2} Qxb4
{3} 40. Nxe4 {0} Qb3 {0} 41. Rac2 {986} Bf8 {118} 42. Nc5 {413} Qb5 {218} 43.
Nd3 {21} a3 {159} 44. Nf4 {142} Qa5 {125} 45. Ra2 {105} Bb4 {80} 46. Rd3 {204}
Kh6 {444} 47. Rd1 {227} Qa4 {168} 48. Rda1 {34} Bd6 {96} 49. Kg1 {2} Qb3 {187}
50. Ne2 {69} Qd3 {144} 51. Nd4 {38} Kh7 {64} 52. Kh2 {123} Qe4 {32} (52... Kh6
$11) 53. Rxa3 {436} Qxh4+ $1 {110} ({Don't play} 53... Bxa3 54. Rxa3 Kh6 55.
Ra6 $16) 54. Kg1 {3} Qe4 {145} 55. Ra4 $1 {105} Be5 {191} 56. Ne2 {39} Qc2 {201
} (56... Qc6 $11 {keeps the balance.}) 57. R1a2 $1 {41} Qb3 {225} 58. Kg2 {43}
Qd5+ {95} 59. f3 {341} Qd1 {223} 60. f4 {0} (60. Nf4 $5) 60... Bc7 {0} 61. Kf2
{335} Bb6 {148} 62. Ra1 {41} (62. Rb4 $5 Qd5 63. Rab2 $14) 62... Qb3 {89} 63.
Re4 {107} Kg7 {499} 64. Re8 {57} f5 {70} 65. Raa8 {77} Qb4 {388} 66. Rac8 {201}
Ba5 {150} 67. Rc1 {11} Bb6 {27} 68. Re5 {10} Qb3 $1 {54} ({Don't play} 68...
Qd2 69. Rb1 f6 70. Re7+ Kf8 71. Re6 $16) 69. Re8 {194} Qd5 {41} 70. Rcc8 {79}
Qh1 {42} 71. Rc1 {117} Qd5 {5} 72. Rb1 {24} Ba7 {114} (72... Bc7 $11) 73. Re7 {
68} Bc5 {50} 74. Re5 {58} Qd3 $1 {5} 75. Rb7 {206} Qc2 {53} 76. Rb5 {15} Ba7 {
26} 77. Ra5 {8} (77. Rbd5 $14 {should be considered.}) 77... Bb6 {11} 78. Rab5
{4} Ba7 {4} {Resist} 79. Rxf5 {28} Qd3 {26 [#]} 80. Rxf7+ $1 {41} (80. Rg5+ Kf8
$11) 80... Kxf7 {5} 81. Rb7+ {6} Kg6 {58} (81... Ke8 82. Rxa7 Qd1 $16) 82. Rxa7
{2} Qd5 {26} 83. Ra6+ {64} ({Better is} 83. Nd4 $14) 83... Kh7 {62} 84. Ra1 {9}
Kg6 {35} 85. Nd4 {3} Qb7 {36} 86. Ra2 {42} Qh1 {42} 87. Ra6+ {7} Kf7 {59} 88.
Nf3 {7} Qb1 {29} 89. Rd6 {13} Kg7 {11} 90. Rd5 {39} Qa2+ {13} 91. Rd2 {2} Qb1 {
5} 92. Re2 {16} Qb6 {55} 93. Rc2 {81} Qb1 {16} 94. Nd4 {25} Qh1 {14} 95. Rc7+ {
29} Kf6 {10} 96. Rc6+ {50} Kf7 {30} 97. Nf3 {35} Qb1 {14} 98. Ng5+ {44} Kg7 {24
} 99. Ne6+ {98} Kf7 {13} 100. Nd4 {6} Qh1 {35} 101. Rc7+ {26} Kf6 {6} 102. Nf3
{40} Qb1 {10} 103. Rd7 {26} Qb2+ {42} 104. Rd2 {46} Qb1 {4} 105. Ng1 {95} Qb4 {
81} 106. Rd1 {11} Qb3 {23} 107. Rd6+ {5} Kg7 {78} 108. Rd4 {27} Qb2+ {122} 109.
Ne2 {8} Qb1 {5} 110. e4 {76} Qh1 {36} 111. Rd7+ {36} Kg8 {38} 112. Rd4 {26}
Qh2+ {17} 113. Ke3 {8} h4 {47} 114. gxh4 {2} Qh3+ {7} 115. Kd2 {9} Qxh4 {4}
116. Rd3 {18} Kf8 {55} 117. Rf3 {53} Qd8+ {9} 118. Ke3 {37} Qa5 {61} 119. Kf2 {
10} Qa7+ {39} 120. Re3 {8} Qd7 {51} 121. Ng3 {27} Qd2+ {11} 122. Kf3 $1 {16}
Qd1+ {2} 123. Re2 {18} Qb3+ {7} 124. Kg2 {13} Qb7 {16} 125. Rd2 {16} Qb3 {58}
126. Rd5 {141} Ke7 {46} 127. Re5+ {30} Kf7 {29} 128. Rf5+ {18} Ke8 {44} 129. e5
{9} Qa2+ {73} 130. Kh3 {7} Qe6 {5} 131. Kh4 {17} Qh6+ {34 [#]} (131... Qa2 $1
$11) 132. Nh5 $1 {20} Qh7 $2 {55 [#]} (132... Ke7 $16 {is tougher.} 133. Rf6
Qh8) 133. e6 $1 {111} Qg6 $2 {119} (133... Qb7 $16) 134. Rf7 {41} Kd8 {49} 135.
f5 {24} Qg1 {24} 136. Ng7 {13} 1-0
[/pgn]
Regarding the game of today, it looks like the losing move was 130.- ..., Qe6, where only 130.-..., Qb1 and 130.- ..., Qc2 draw:

https://syzygy-tables.info/?fen=4k3/8/8 ... _-_-_2_130

This game will be remembered forever. Both played really, really well once reached the first time control... until this mistake.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

True

Also Italians GMs Godena and Garcia Palermo confirmed that on Chess.com
Nepo is incredibly very strong but luckily, not a robot with all 7 men tablebases inserted in his brain and Carlsen is ...Carlsen

Now will be very hard for Nepo...

jdart · Post by **jdart** » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:02 pm

Looks like Carlsen did what he is famous for: torture his opponent in the endgame until he cracks.

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