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towforce wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:16 pm 2. Chess.com bots

More than good enough for my level of play. I expect they'll be rewritten as webassembly apps in the near future, and then they'll become even stronger.
Yeah. I like those too. There's probably room for some commerce here, I'd like to have this on my computer and have it play against me occasionally. Sometimes I prefer to watch.
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My favorite engines:

1. Nalwald
2. Stockfish
3. Magnus Carlsen
4. OliThink
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I hope you will continue to develop Nalwald, Jost, and I wish you all the best. [BTW, when I see "Magnus Carlsen" where I would have written "Robert Fisher" or "Misha Tal", makes me feel old.] I have the impression that Nalwald is very aggressive. Of course, I would like if you could implement the usual features for Nalwald to be user friendly.

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towforce wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:16 pm Mini analyser in the PGN app in this site and at the ProDeo website.
Most of the games I look at are in these two sites, and it quickly shows me what happens to the "obvious" move I thought should have been played. I actually think it could well compete with many of the 8-bit dedicated chess computers (which most chess computers were well into the 1990s).
I did not know that a mini analyser existed. Thanks, Towforce. I'll try to find how to use it.
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matejst wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:12 pmI did not know that a mini analyser existed. Thanks, Towforce. I'll try to find how to use it.

1. Go to this post - link

2. Click on the pgn board's E8 square. The analysis board will open.
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j.t. wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:49 pm My favorite engines:

1. Nalwald
2. Stockfish
3. Magnus Carlsen
4. OliThink
Thank you very much :)
OliThink GitHub: https://github.com/olithink
Nice arcticle about OlIThink: https://www.chessengeria.eu/post/olithink-oldie-goldie
Chess Engine OliThink Homepage: http://brausch.org/home/chess
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OliverBr wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:07 am
j.t. wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:49 pm My favorite engines:

1. Nalwald
2. Stockfish
3. Magnus Carlsen
4. OliThink
Thank you very much :)
I find it impressive how good OliThink is with pretty much only mobility eval. I think this very different evaluation compared to other engines at a similar level of play might also be the reason why the draw rates with OliThink are comparatively low.
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j.t. wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:56 pm
OliverBr wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:07 am
j.t. wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:49 pm My favorite engines:

1. Nalwald
2. Stockfish
3. Magnus Carlsen
4. OliThink
Thank you very much :)
I find it impressive how good OliThink is with pretty much only mobility eval. I think this very different evaluation compared to other engines at a similar level of play might also be the reason why the draw rates with OliThink are comparatively low.
Fire 8.NN MCTS has to be my favorite...
with a much shallower but wider search than SF, the MCTS analysis gives a very unique perspective & informative output.
It supports multiple NNUEs (any Half-KP 256x2-32-32) including Dieter K.'s excellent White Rose, Dark Horse, Night Nurse, etc. (see his patreon site for really interesting NNUEs)
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j.t. wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:56 pm
OliverBr wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:07 am
j.t. wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:49 pm My favorite engines:

1. Nalwald
2. Stockfish
3. Magnus Carlsen
4. OliThink
Thank you very much :)
I find it impressive how good OliThink is with pretty much only mobility eval. I think this very different evaluation compared to other engines at a similar level of play might also be the reason why the draw rates with OliThink are comparatively low.
Yes, almost everything about OliThink is unique and genuine.
Only some parts of the search and pruning are based on general ideas.

The move generator was developed completely on paper (by scratch) and not looking into other engines at all. Much later I learned, it's called Kindergarten bitboard :)
Same for the evaluation:
why the draw rates with OliThink are comparatively low.
While reviewing the evaluation of other engines I often see repeating patterns, in almost every engine.
Not in OliThink, where I can guarantee that the evaluation will be completely different. Thus the draw level rates are minimal.
OliThink GitHub: https://github.com/olithink
Nice arcticle about OlIThink: https://www.chessengeria.eu/post/olithink-oldie-goldie
Chess Engine OliThink Homepage: http://brausch.org/home/chess
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My favourite engine used to be Comet. It had an attractive, intuitive attacking style.
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OliverBr wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:07 am
j.t. wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:49 pm My favorite engines:

1. Nalwald
2. Stockfish
3. Magnus Carlsen
4. OliThink
Thank you very much :)
I really like OliThink as well. I always had a fondness for engines with tiny amounts of source, like OliThink, MicroMax, Toledo and SamChess.