I would like to know if you match 2 engines where X engine is at least 20 to 40 elo higher or stronger than y engine, if you limit X or the stronger engine to only play by castling long 0-0-0 with the White side , but the weaker engine can castle either way short or long. In a match of 100 or even 500 games what could the outcome be expected. Lets say for instance Stockfish vs Komodo Dragon 2.6.1 ? Can somebody do an experiment of 50 or 100 games Blitz or Rapid with these two Stockfish vs Komodo Dagon 2.6.1. using whatever Opening they like ?
Note: That is for engine vs engine, but if 2 humans rated around 20 to 40 rating different, if the stronger player is limited to only castle long 0-0-0 with white in a match of 20 games do you believe that the weaker player can compensate by limiting his stronger opponent to only castle long?
For Stronger engines 20 to 40 rating higher than another...........
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Chessqueen
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Re: For Stronger engines 20 to 40 rating higher than another...........
Sorry, I just realized that in order to have this type of match an Opening Book for Stockfish would have to be created, where the White side only use Long castle 0-0-0, unless there is a GUI that allow you to do this, and I do NOT know if somebody can create such an openingChessqueen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:30 am I would like to know if you match 2 engines where X engine is at least 20 to 40 elo higher or stronger than y engine, if you limit X or the stronger engine to only play by castling long 0-0-0 with the White side , but the weaker engine can castle either way short or long. In a match of 100 or even 500 games what could the outcome be expected. Lets say for instance Stockfish vs Komodo Dragon 2.6.1 ? Can somebody do an experiment of 50 or 100 games Blitz or Rapid with these two Stockfish vs Komodo Dagon 2.6.1. using whatever Opening they like ?
Note: That is for engine vs engine, but if 2 humans rated around 20 to 40 rating different, if the stronger player is limited to only castle long 0-0-0 with white in a match of 20 games do you believe that the weaker player can compensate by limiting his stronger opponent to only castle long?
But it could be created for experiment purpose. I could be wrong, but I believe that the weaker engine in this case Komodo Dragon 2.6.1 will end up winning the match. 
1st game
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "B11"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "19:56:18"]
[Variation "Two Knights, 3...Bg4 4.h3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 e6 6.d4"]
[WhiteElo "3618"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "132"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 c6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Nc3 Bg4 4. h3 Bxf3 5. Qxf3 e6 6. d4 Nf6 7. Be2 dxe4
8. Qe3 Nbd7 9. Bd2 Qb6 10. O-O-O c5 11. Nxe4 cxd4 12. Nxf6+ gxf6 13. Qf3
Be7 14. Kb1 Ne5 15. Qe4 O-O-O 16. Bc1 a6 17. g4 Qc6 18. Qxc6+ Nxc6 19. Rhg1
Bc5 20. Rg3 Kc7 21. Rf3 Be7 22. Bh6 Rhg8 23. Bd3 Kc8 24. Be4 Ne5 25. Rb3
Rd7 26. Bf4 Rh8 27. a4 Bc5 28. Bg3 h6 29. f4 Nc6 30. Bf2 Rhd8 31. Bg3 Kc7
32. Bh4 Be7 33. Bf2 Bc5 34. Bg3 Be7 35. Bf2 Bc5 36. Be1 b6 37. Bh4 Be7 38.
Bf2 Bc5 39. Be1 Na5 40. Rbd3 Nc4 41. c3 b5 42. Bf2 bxa4 43. cxd4 Rb8 44.
Rc3 Rxb2+ 45. Ka1 Rxf2 46. Rxc4 Rxf4 47. Rxc5+ Kd8 48. Bc2 Rdxd4 49. Rxd4+
Rxd4 50. Rh5 Rf4 51. Rxh6 Ke7 52. Rh5 Rf1+ 53. Kb2 Rf2 54. Kc1 a3 55. Ra5
Rf3 56. h4 Rf4 57. Bd1 f5 58. gxf5 Rxh4 59. Rxa3 exf5 60. Kd2 Rh6 61. Ke3
Kf6 62. Ra5 Kg5 63. Bc2 Rh3+ 64. Kd4 Rf3 65. Bd3 Rf2 66. Ke3 Rf4 {User
Adjudication} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
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Chessqueen
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Re: For Stronger engines 20 to 40 rating higher than another...........
I created some openings for Stockfish where White can only castle Long0-0-0 wand played 10 games at Blitz, Stockfish demonstrated to me that even if it is limited to castle long it can still defeat Komodo Dragon 2.6.1
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "E12"]
[Opening "Queen's Indian"]
[Variation "Petrosian, 4...Ba6 5.Qc2 Bb7 6.Nc3 c5 7.e4"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "185"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Ba6 5. Qc2 Bb7 6. Nc3 c5 7. e4 cxd4 8.
Nxd4 d6 9. Be2 Be7 10. Be3 O-O 11. O-O-O Nbd7 12. Kb1 a6 13. Rhf1 b5 14. g4
Nc5 15. e5 Nfe4 16. exd6 Qxd6 17. cxb5 Nxc3+ 18. Qxc3 Ne4 19. Qc2 axb5 20.
Nf5 exf5 21. Rxd6 Nxd6 22. Rd1 Be4 23. Bd3 Bf3 24. Rc1 b4 25. axb4 Bd5 26.
Qe2 Ba2+ 27. Kc2 Be6 28. h3 h6 29. Qf3 fxg4 30. hxg4 Nc4 31. Bc5 Ne5 32.
Qe3 Nxg4 33. Qe4 Nf6 34. Qh4 Rfc8 35. Kd2 Rc7 36. Rg1 Kf8 37. Qg3 Ne8 38.
Rc1 Rd8 39. Ke1 Kg8 40. Kf1 Bxc5 41. Rxc5 Rcd7 42. Bc2 Rb7 43. b5 Nf6 44.
Qc3 Rbb8 45. Qb4 Nd5 46. Qa5 Ra8 47. Qe1 Re8 48. Kg1 Nf6 49. Qc3 Rab8 50.
Bd3 Rbd8 51. f3 Nd5 52. Qa5 Ra8 53. Qd2 Red8 54. Bf1 Ne7 55. Qb4 Rd7 56.
Qe4 Rb8 57. Qe5 Re8 58. b6 Rb7 59. Rb5 Bd7 60. Rb3 Be6 61. Ba6 Rbb8 62. Rb5
Bd7 63. b7 Ng6 64. Qc7 Bxb5 65. Bxb5 Rf8 66. Bc4 Nf4 67. Qxf4 Rxb7 68. b3
Rd8 69. Kf2 Kh8 70. Qe4 Rbd7 71. b4 Rd4 72. Qe7 R4d7 73. Qc5 Rb7 74. b5
Rdb8 75. Qf5 Kg8 76. Kg3 Re7 77. Bd3 g6 78. Qd5 Rc7 79. Be4 Rc1 80. b6 Rg1+
81. Kf2 Rg5 82. Qd6 Re8 83. b7 Rb5 84. Bc6 Rb2+ 85. Kg3 Re1 86. Qd8+ Kh7
87. Qf8 h5 88. Bd5 h4+ 89. Kf4 Rxb7 90. Bxb7 Rf1 91. Kg5 f6+ 92. Kxf6 Rxf3+
93. Bxf3 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "A65"]
[Opening "Benoni"]
[Variation "6.e4 g6"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "101"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nge2 Bg7 8.
Ng3 O-O 9. Be2 b6 10. h4 h5 11. Bg5 Nbd7 12. Qc2 a6 13. f4 b5 14. e5 dxe5
15. f5 e4 16. O-O-O c4 17. Ncxe4 Nxe4 18. Nxe4 Qb6 19. Rhf1 Ne5 20. g4 hxg4
21. f6 Bh8 22. Kb1 Re8 23. Ng3 Bd7 24. h5 gxh5 25. Nxh5 b4 26. Ng3 b3 27.
Qc3 bxa2+ 28. Ka1 Qb3 29. Bd2 Rab8 30. Ne4 Ng6 31. Nc5 Qxc3 32. Bxc3 Rxe2
33. Nxd7 Rd8 34. Nb6 g3 35. Rf5 g2 36. Rg1 Rb8 37. Nxc4 Rb5 38. Nd2 Kf8 39.
Nc4 Kg8 40. Nd2 Kf8 41. Nf3 Rf2 42. Kxa2 Ke8 43. Nd4 Rxf5 44. Nxf5 Rxd5 45.
Ng7+ Kf8 46. Rxg2 Kg8 47. Re2 Rc5 48. Re4 Kh7 49. Ne8 Rc6 50. Rg4 Nf8 51.
Rh4+ 1/2-1/2
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Opening "French"]
[Variation "Steinitz, Boleslavsky Variation, 4.e5 Nfd7 5.f4 c5 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Be3"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. f4 c5 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Be3 Be7 8.
a3 O-O 9. Qd2 b6 10. O-O-O c4 11. f5 b5 12. Qe1 Rb8 13. Qg3 Kh8 14. Ng5
Bxg5 15. Bxg5 Qb6 16. Ne2 f6 17. exf6 Nxf6 18. Qd6 Rd8 19. Qc5 Qa6 20. Nc3
Qb7 21. b4 cxb3 22. cxb3 b4 23. axb4 Nxb4 24. Rd2 a5 25. Be2 Qf7 26. Kb2
Bd7 27. Qxa5 Rdc8 28. Rc1 Nc6 29. Qc5 Ne7 30. Qa7 Ra8 31. Qb7 Rcb8 32. Qc7
Nxf5 33. Bxf6 Qxf6 34. Ra1 Qg5 35. Rd3 Qe7 36. Rxa8 Rxa8 37. Qc5 Qd8 38. g4
Nh6 39. Rd1 Nf7 40. h4 Rc8 41. Qa7 h6 42. Ra1 Be8 43. Qa6 Bc6 44. Bd3 Nd6
45. Rc1 Bb7 46. Qa3 Ra8 1/2-1/2
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "E81"]
[Opening "King's Indian"]
[Variation "Sämisch, 5...O-O 6.Be3 Nbd7 7.Qd2"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "199"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 Nbd7 7. Qd2 a6 8.
O-O-O b5 9. e5 b4 10. Na4 Ne8 11. c5 Bb7 12. f4 Bd5 13. Nf3 Rb8 14. b3 c6
15. Qc2 Nc7 16. h4 h5 17. Bc4 f5 18. Ng5 Qe8 19. Bxd5+ Nxd5 20. Rhe1 dxe5
21. dxe5 e6 22. g3 Qe7 23. Kd2 Rb5 24. Bf2 Rd8 25. Ke2 a5 26. Kf1 Bf8 27.
Qe2 Nb8 28. Nf3 Na6 29. Nd4 Qe8 30. Rd2 Nac7 31. Nxb5 Nxb5 32. Qc4 Qf7 33.
Kg2 Qb7 34. Bd4 Kg7 35. Red1 Be7 36. Kh2 Qa7 37. Nb6 Kh6 38. Rd3 Qb7 39.
Bb2 Qa7 40. Qc1 Qa6 41. Kh3 Rb8 42. Qc4 Qa7 43. Rc1 Rd8 44. Rd2 Bf8 45. Qe2
Kh7 46. Rdd1 Kg8 47. Rc2 Qe7 48. Qe1 Qa7 49. Qg1 Be7 50. Kh2 Kh7 51. Rdd2
Rf8 52. Qc1 Rb8 53. Rd3 Kh6 54. Nxd5 exd5 55. Rd1 Bf8 56. Re2 Be7 57. e6
Qa6 58. Rde1 Qc8 59. Qc2 Qg8 60. Kg2 Rd8 61. Re5 Rf8 62. Qd3 Nc7 63. Ba1
Rf6 64. Bd4 Rf8 65. Bb2 Qg7 66. R5e2 Qh7 67. a3 bxa3 68. Bxa3 Rd8 69. Bb2
d4 70. Qd2 Nb5 71. Qxa5 Qh8 72. Qa4 Qe8 73. Qc4 Qh8 74. Kh3 Kh7 75. Re5 Kh6
76. Rd1 Qe8 77. Re2 Rd5 78. Bxd4 Nc7 79. Re5 Rd8 80. b4 Nd5 81. Ree1 Qf8
82. Bc3 Qg8 83. Bb2 Qh7 84. Be5 Qg8 85. b5 Qe8 86. b6 Qf8 87. b7 Bxc5 88.
b8=R Rxb8 89. Bxb8 Bb4 90. Be5 Bxe1 91. Rxe1 Qe8 92. Bb2 Ne7 93. Ra1 Nd5
94. Qd4 Qf8 95. Ra7 c5 96. Qxd5 Qg8 97. Qb7 c4 98. Qe7 g5 99. fxg5+ Kg6
100. Qf6# 1-0[/pgn][/pgn][/pgn][/pgn]
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "E12"]
[Opening "Queen's Indian"]
[Variation "Petrosian, 4...Ba6 5.Qc2 Bb7 6.Nc3 c5 7.e4"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "185"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Ba6 5. Qc2 Bb7 6. Nc3 c5 7. e4 cxd4 8.
Nxd4 d6 9. Be2 Be7 10. Be3 O-O 11. O-O-O Nbd7 12. Kb1 a6 13. Rhf1 b5 14. g4
Nc5 15. e5 Nfe4 16. exd6 Qxd6 17. cxb5 Nxc3+ 18. Qxc3 Ne4 19. Qc2 axb5 20.
Nf5 exf5 21. Rxd6 Nxd6 22. Rd1 Be4 23. Bd3 Bf3 24. Rc1 b4 25. axb4 Bd5 26.
Qe2 Ba2+ 27. Kc2 Be6 28. h3 h6 29. Qf3 fxg4 30. hxg4 Nc4 31. Bc5 Ne5 32.
Qe3 Nxg4 33. Qe4 Nf6 34. Qh4 Rfc8 35. Kd2 Rc7 36. Rg1 Kf8 37. Qg3 Ne8 38.
Rc1 Rd8 39. Ke1 Kg8 40. Kf1 Bxc5 41. Rxc5 Rcd7 42. Bc2 Rb7 43. b5 Nf6 44.
Qc3 Rbb8 45. Qb4 Nd5 46. Qa5 Ra8 47. Qe1 Re8 48. Kg1 Nf6 49. Qc3 Rab8 50.
Bd3 Rbd8 51. f3 Nd5 52. Qa5 Ra8 53. Qd2 Red8 54. Bf1 Ne7 55. Qb4 Rd7 56.
Qe4 Rb8 57. Qe5 Re8 58. b6 Rb7 59. Rb5 Bd7 60. Rb3 Be6 61. Ba6 Rbb8 62. Rb5
Bd7 63. b7 Ng6 64. Qc7 Bxb5 65. Bxb5 Rf8 66. Bc4 Nf4 67. Qxf4 Rxb7 68. b3
Rd8 69. Kf2 Kh8 70. Qe4 Rbd7 71. b4 Rd4 72. Qe7 R4d7 73. Qc5 Rb7 74. b5
Rdb8 75. Qf5 Kg8 76. Kg3 Re7 77. Bd3 g6 78. Qd5 Rc7 79. Be4 Rc1 80. b6 Rg1+
81. Kf2 Rg5 82. Qd6 Re8 83. b7 Rb5 84. Bc6 Rb2+ 85. Kg3 Re1 86. Qd8+ Kh7
87. Qf8 h5 88. Bd5 h4+ 89. Kf4 Rxb7 90. Bxb7 Rf1 91. Kg5 f6+ 92. Kxf6 Rxf3+
93. Bxf3 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "A65"]
[Opening "Benoni"]
[Variation "6.e4 g6"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "101"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nge2 Bg7 8.
Ng3 O-O 9. Be2 b6 10. h4 h5 11. Bg5 Nbd7 12. Qc2 a6 13. f4 b5 14. e5 dxe5
15. f5 e4 16. O-O-O c4 17. Ncxe4 Nxe4 18. Nxe4 Qb6 19. Rhf1 Ne5 20. g4 hxg4
21. f6 Bh8 22. Kb1 Re8 23. Ng3 Bd7 24. h5 gxh5 25. Nxh5 b4 26. Ng3 b3 27.
Qc3 bxa2+ 28. Ka1 Qb3 29. Bd2 Rab8 30. Ne4 Ng6 31. Nc5 Qxc3 32. Bxc3 Rxe2
33. Nxd7 Rd8 34. Nb6 g3 35. Rf5 g2 36. Rg1 Rb8 37. Nxc4 Rb5 38. Nd2 Kf8 39.
Nc4 Kg8 40. Nd2 Kf8 41. Nf3 Rf2 42. Kxa2 Ke8 43. Nd4 Rxf5 44. Nxf5 Rxd5 45.
Ng7+ Kf8 46. Rxg2 Kg8 47. Re2 Rc5 48. Re4 Kh7 49. Ne8 Rc6 50. Rg4 Nf8 51.
Rh4+ 1/2-1/2
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Opening "French"]
[Variation "Steinitz, Boleslavsky Variation, 4.e5 Nfd7 5.f4 c5 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Be3"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. f4 c5 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Be3 Be7 8.
a3 O-O 9. Qd2 b6 10. O-O-O c4 11. f5 b5 12. Qe1 Rb8 13. Qg3 Kh8 14. Ng5
Bxg5 15. Bxg5 Qb6 16. Ne2 f6 17. exf6 Nxf6 18. Qd6 Rd8 19. Qc5 Qa6 20. Nc3
Qb7 21. b4 cxb3 22. cxb3 b4 23. axb4 Nxb4 24. Rd2 a5 25. Be2 Qf7 26. Kb2
Bd7 27. Qxa5 Rdc8 28. Rc1 Nc6 29. Qc5 Ne7 30. Qa7 Ra8 31. Qb7 Rcb8 32. Qc7
Nxf5 33. Bxf6 Qxf6 34. Ra1 Qg5 35. Rd3 Qe7 36. Rxa8 Rxa8 37. Qc5 Qd8 38. g4
Nh6 39. Rd1 Nf7 40. h4 Rc8 41. Qa7 h6 42. Ra1 Be8 43. Qa6 Bc6 44. Bd3 Nd6
45. Rc1 Bb7 46. Qa3 Ra8 1/2-1/2
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "E81"]
[Opening "King's Indian"]
[Variation "Sämisch, 5...O-O 6.Be3 Nbd7 7.Qd2"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "199"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 Nbd7 7. Qd2 a6 8.
O-O-O b5 9. e5 b4 10. Na4 Ne8 11. c5 Bb7 12. f4 Bd5 13. Nf3 Rb8 14. b3 c6
15. Qc2 Nc7 16. h4 h5 17. Bc4 f5 18. Ng5 Qe8 19. Bxd5+ Nxd5 20. Rhe1 dxe5
21. dxe5 e6 22. g3 Qe7 23. Kd2 Rb5 24. Bf2 Rd8 25. Ke2 a5 26. Kf1 Bf8 27.
Qe2 Nb8 28. Nf3 Na6 29. Nd4 Qe8 30. Rd2 Nac7 31. Nxb5 Nxb5 32. Qc4 Qf7 33.
Kg2 Qb7 34. Bd4 Kg7 35. Red1 Be7 36. Kh2 Qa7 37. Nb6 Kh6 38. Rd3 Qb7 39.
Bb2 Qa7 40. Qc1 Qa6 41. Kh3 Rb8 42. Qc4 Qa7 43. Rc1 Rd8 44. Rd2 Bf8 45. Qe2
Kh7 46. Rdd1 Kg8 47. Rc2 Qe7 48. Qe1 Qa7 49. Qg1 Be7 50. Kh2 Kh7 51. Rdd2
Rf8 52. Qc1 Rb8 53. Rd3 Kh6 54. Nxd5 exd5 55. Rd1 Bf8 56. Re2 Be7 57. e6
Qa6 58. Rde1 Qc8 59. Qc2 Qg8 60. Kg2 Rd8 61. Re5 Rf8 62. Qd3 Nc7 63. Ba1
Rf6 64. Bd4 Rf8 65. Bb2 Qg7 66. R5e2 Qh7 67. a3 bxa3 68. Bxa3 Rd8 69. Bb2
d4 70. Qd2 Nb5 71. Qxa5 Qh8 72. Qa4 Qe8 73. Qc4 Qh8 74. Kh3 Kh7 75. Re5 Kh6
76. Rd1 Qe8 77. Re2 Rd5 78. Bxd4 Nc7 79. Re5 Rd8 80. b4 Nd5 81. Ree1 Qf8
82. Bc3 Qg8 83. Bb2 Qh7 84. Be5 Qg8 85. b5 Qe8 86. b6 Qf8 87. b7 Bxc5 88.
b8=R Rxb8 89. Bxb8 Bb4 90. Be5 Bxe1 91. Rxe1 Qe8 92. Bb2 Ne7 93. Ra1 Nd5
94. Qd4 Qf8 95. Ra7 c5 96. Qxd5 Qg8 97. Qb7 c4 98. Qe7 g5 99. fxg5+ Kg6
100. Qf6# 1-0[/pgn][/pgn][/pgn][/pgn]
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Chessqueen
- Posts: 5685
- Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:16 am
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- Full name: Jorge Picado
Re: For Stronger engines 20 to 40 rating higher than another...........
Here are the games from 6 thru 10 where I created 10 Openings for Stockfish where it can only castle long 0-0-0 with White, it is clear that if you look at these games stockfish even if it is limited to castling long it still can beat Komodo Dragon very easy.
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "B01"]
[Opening "Scandinavian"]
[Variation "2...Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "129"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qd8 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. h3 Bxf3 7. Qxf3 c6
8. Be3 e6 9. a3 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Nb6 11. Bd3 Nbd5 12. Ne2 b5 13. g4 g6 14.
Kb1 Rb8 15. h4 h5 16. gxh5 Nxh5 17. Rdg1 b4 18. a4 Bd6 19. Bc4 Qf6 20. Qg2
Kd7 21. Bg5 Qf5 22. Bd3 Nhf4 23. Nxf4 Nxf4 24. Bxf5 Nxg2 25. Bxg6 Nxh4 26.
Bxf7 Nf3 27. Bf6 Rxh1 28. Rxh1 Be7 29. Bg7 Ng5 30. Bh5 Ne4 31. Re1 Rg8 32.
Be5 b3 33. Bf4 bxc2+ 34. Kxc2 Nd6 35. Re2 Rf8 36. Bd2 Bh4 37. Bg4 Rxf2 38.
Bxe6+ Kc7 39. Rxf2 Bxf2 40. Kd3 c5 41. dxc5 Nb7 42. Bf4+ Kc6 43. b4 Bxc5
44. Kc4 Nd6+ 45. Kc3 Bf2 46. Bh3 Kc7 47. Kd2 Bg1 48. Bg3 Bd4 49. Kc2 Bg1
50. a5 Kc6 51. Bg2+ Kd7 52. Kd3 a6 53. Bh3+ Kc6 54. Bf1 Nf5 55. Be1 Bh2 56.
Bh3 Nd6 57. Bf1 Kc7 58. Bd2 Kc6 59. Be3 Kb5 60. Bd2 Ka4 61. Kd4 Nb5+ 62.
Kd5 Bg1 63. Be2 Bf2 64. Bd3 Bg1 65. Bc2+ 1/2-1/2
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "A80"]
[Opening "Dutch"]
[Variation "Korchnoi, Janzen Gambit"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "163"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 f5 2. h3 Nf6 3. g4 fxg4 4. hxg4 Nxg4 5. Bg5 d6 6. Nc3 c5 7. dxc5 Qa5
8. e4 Bd7 9. Qd5 Qb4 10. Rh3 Nc6 11. cxd6 Nf6 12. Bxf6 exf6 13. O-O-O O-O-O
14. Re3 Bg4 15. Be2 Bxe2 16. a3 Qa5 17. Qe6+ Kb8 18. Ngxe2 Qe5 19. Qf7 Bxd6
20. Qxg7 Rdg8 21. Qf7 Qh2 22. Rf1 Rd8 23. Qe6 Bc5 24. Rf3 Nd4 25. Nxd4 Bxd4
26. Qf5 Bxc3 27. Rxc3 h5 28. Rf3 Qg2 29. Qf4+ Ka8 30. Rd1 Rxd1+ 31. Kxd1
Re8 32. Qxf6 h4 33. Rd3 Qg4+ 34. Qf3 Qg7 35. c3 a6 36. Kc2 Rh8 37. Qh3 Qg5
38. Rd1 Qb5 39. f3 Qe2+ 40. Rd2 Qb5 41. Rh2 Qg5 42. Rh1 Qf4 43. Kb1 Qd2 44.
Ka1 Qe2 45. Qf1 Qd2 46. Qg1 h3 47. Qd4 Qh6 48. e5 Rf8 49. Qd7 Qe3 50. Rxh3
Qxe5 51. Rh7 Qb5 52. Qxb5 axb5 53. Rh3 Kb8 54. Kb1 Kc7 55. Kc2 Kc6 56. Kd3
Kc7 57. Ke2 Kd6 58. Rh4 Rg8 59. Rb4 Kc5 60. f4 Rh8 61. a4 bxa4 62. Rxa4 Kd5
63. Kf3 Rf8 64. Rb4 Kc6 65. Kg4 Rg8+ 66. Kh5 Rh8+ 67. Kg6 Rh2 68. f5 Rg2+
69. Kf7 Rg3 70. f6 Kc7 71. Ke6 b6 72. f7 Rf3 73. Rb5 Kb7 74. Rf5 Re3+ 75.
Kf6 Re2 76. f8=Q Rxb2 77. Qe7+ Kb8 78. Rd5 Rf2+ 79. Kg7 Rg2+ 80. Kf7 Rf2+
81. Ke8 Rd2 82. Rxd2 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "E60"]
[Opening "King's Indian"]
[Variation "3.f3"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "207"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. f3 Nh5 4. e4 e5 5. Be3 Bg7 6. Nc3 d6 7. dxe5 dxe5 8.
Qxd8+ Kxd8 9. O-O-O+ Bd7 10. Nh3 Kc8 11. g3 h6 12. Nf2 Be6 13. Nd3 Nd7 14.
b3 c6 15. Kc2 b6 16. g4 Nhf6 17. h3 g5 18. h4 Nh7 19. c5 Kb7 20. h5 b5 21.
Rh2 Rhc8 22. Rhd2 Nhf6 23. a4 a6 24. Bf2 Bf8 25. b4 a5 26. Rb1 Bc4 27. bxa5
Rxa5 28. Bg3 Bxd3+ 29. Bxd3 b4 30. Rxb4+ Kc7 31. Bc4 Bxc5 32. Rb1 Rf8 33.
Rbd1 Kc8 34. Bb3 Bb4 35. Rd3 Be7 36. Be1 Ra7 37. Bf2 Ra5 38. Be1 Ra7 39.
Ne2 Nc5 40. Rc3 Rd8 41. Bxf7 Rxd1 42. Kxd1 Rxa4 43. Ng3 Kc7 44. Rc2 Nfd7
45. Nf5 Bf8 46. Bc3 Ra3 47. Ne3 Na4 48. Ba5+ Kb7 49. Ke2 Nab6 50. Bc3 Bc5
51. Nf5 Bf8 52. Bb2 Ra4 53. Rc1 Kc7 54. Be6 Ra8 55. Rd1 Ra6 56. Kd2 Ra4 57.
Kc2 Ra8 58. Ra1 Rxa1 59. Bxa1 Kb7 60. Bxd7 Nxd7 61. Ne3 Bd6 62. Nc4 Bc7 63.
Ne3 Bd6 64. Nc4 Bc7 65. Bb2 Ka6 66. Ba3 c5 67. Ne3 Bd6 68. Nc4 Bc7 69. Kb3
Kb5 70. Bc1 Ka6 71. Bd2 Kb5 72. Bc3 Ka6 73. Na3 Bd6 74. Ba1 Bf8 75. Nc4 Bg7
76. Nd6 Bf8 77. Nf7 Kb5 78. Bb2 Bg7 79. Bc3 Kc6 80. Ba5 Kb5 81. Bc7 Nf8 82.
Bxe5 Bxe5 83. Nxe5 Ne6 84. Kc2 Nd4+ 85. Kd3 Kb4 86. f4 Ne6 87. f5 Nf4+ 88.
Kc2 c4 89. f6 Ne6 90. f7 Nd4+ 91. Kd1 Ne6 92. Nd7 Kb3 93. Nc5+ Nxc5 94.
f8=Q Nd3 95. Kd2 Ka4 96. Qb8 Nc5 97. Kc3 Nxe4+ 98. Kxc4 Nd2+ 99. Kc3 Ne4+
100. Kd3 Ka5 101. Kxe4 Ka4 102. Kd4 Ka5 103. Kc5 Ka6 104. Qa8# 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "A40"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn"]
[Variation "Keres Defence, 3.Bd2 Bxd2+"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "143"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4+ 3. Bd2 Bxd2+ 4. Qxd2 b6 5. Nc3 Bb7 6. e4 Nf6 7. f3 d6
8. O-O-O Qe7 9. Kb1 Nc6 10. d5 Ne5 11. f4 Ned7 12. Bd3 e5 13. g3 Nc5 14.
Bc2 Bc8 15. Re1 a6 16. Nf3 b5 17. fxe5 dxe5 18. b4 Nb7 19. c5 Bg4 20. Re3
O-O 21. h3 Bxf3 22. Rxf3 a5 23. d6 cxd6 24. c6 Nd8 25. Nd5 Nxd5 26. exd5
axb4 27. Qxb4 Qa7 28. a3 f6 29. g4 Nf7 30. Rb3 g6 31. Bd3 Qe7 32. Rc1 Rfb8
33. Ka2 Qc7 34. Rcb1 Ra5 35. Qc3 Kg7 36. Bxb5 Rba8 37. Rc1 R5a7 38. h4 Rb8
39. Bd3 Rba8 40. Rc2 Rc8 41. Rcb2 Rca8 42. Bc4 Qa5 43. Qxa5 Rxa5 44. Bd3
R5a7 45. Rc3 Re7 46. Rb7 Ree8 47. c7 Kh6 48. Kb3 e4 49. Bxe4 Ne5 50. Rb6
Ra7 51. c8=Q Rxc8 52. Rxc8 Nxg4 53. Rxd6 Nf2 54. Bc2 Ng4 55. Re6 Rb7+ 56.
Ka2 Rb5 57. d6 Rd5 58. Rc7 Ne5 59. Rxf6 Kh5 60. Rxh7+ Kg4 61. Re7 Kg3 62.
Be4 Rd2+ 63. Kb3 Ng4 64. Rxg6 Kf4 65. Kc3 Rd1 66. Bc2 Rd5 67. Re4+ Kf3 68.
Rgxg4 Rxd6 69. Bd3 Rb6 70. Kd2 Rb2+ 71. Bc2 Rxc2+ 72. Kxc2 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "B06"]
[Opening "Modern"]
[Variation "3.Nc3 d6 4.Be3 a6"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "189"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 4. Be3 a6 5. Qd2 b5 6. h4 h5 7. f3 Nf6 8.
O-O-O Nc6 9. Nh3 Bxh3 10. Rxh3 e6 11. Bg5 b4 12. Ne2 Rb8 13. Kb1 a5 14. Qf4
Qe7 15. Qe3 Qd7 16. g4 a4 17. d5 Ne7 18. gxh5 Nxh5 19. Rh1 a3 20. Nd4 e5
21. Nc6 Nxc6 22. Bh3 f5 23. dxc6 Qf7 24. b3 O-O 25. Bf1 Kh7 26. Bc4 Qe8 27.
Bd5 Bf6 28. Qa7 Qe7 29. Bd2 Nf4 30. Qa5 Nxd5 31. Qxd5 f4 32. Be1 Qf7 33.
Qa5 Ra8 34. Qxb4 Rfb8 35. Qc3 Qe8 36. Rg1 Rb6 37. Qd2 Rxc6 38. Qg2 Qf7 39.
Qg4 Rf8 40. c4 Ra6 41. c5 Be7 42. Qd7 Raa8 43. Bc3 Rac8 44. Qg4 Ra8 45. Rd5
Ra7 46. Rc1 Rb8 47. Rcd1 Rg8 48. Kc2 Kh6 49. R1d2 Kh7 50. R2d3 Rf8 51. Qd7
Rfa8 52. Rd1 Rd8 53. Qc6 Qe8 54. Qxe8 Rxe8 55. b4 Rb7 56. c6 Rb6 57. b5 Ra8
58. Be1 Kg7 59. Kb3 Rbb8 60. R1d3 Kh6 61. Rc3 Ra5 62. Kb4 Ra6 63. Bf2 Kg7
64. Kc4 Ra4+ 65. Kb3 Ra6 66. Rc4 Kf7 67. Rb4 Raa8 68. Ra4 Rxa4 69. Kxa4
Ra8+ 70. Kb4 Bf6 71. b6 cxb6 72. Kb5 Bd8 73. Rxd6 Ra5+ 74. Kc4 Ra4+ 75. Kb3
Ra8 76. Rd7+ Be7 77. Be1 Rc8 78. Bb4 Rxc6 79. Rxe7+ Kf6 80. Bxa3 b5 81. Rb7
g5 82. hxg5+ Kxg5 83. Be7+ Kh6 84. Rxb5 Rc7 85. Rxe5 Kg6 86. a4 Ra7 87. a5
Kf7 88. Ka4 Rd7 89. Bc5 Rd3 90. Rf5+ Kg6 91. a6 Rxf3 92. a7 Rf1 93. a8=Q
Ra1+ 94. Ba3 Rxa3+ 95. Kxa3 1-0[/pgn][/pgn][/pgn][/pgn][/pgn]
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "B01"]
[Opening "Scandinavian"]
[Variation "2...Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "129"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qd8 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. h3 Bxf3 7. Qxf3 c6
8. Be3 e6 9. a3 Nbd7 10. O-O-O Nb6 11. Bd3 Nbd5 12. Ne2 b5 13. g4 g6 14.
Kb1 Rb8 15. h4 h5 16. gxh5 Nxh5 17. Rdg1 b4 18. a4 Bd6 19. Bc4 Qf6 20. Qg2
Kd7 21. Bg5 Qf5 22. Bd3 Nhf4 23. Nxf4 Nxf4 24. Bxf5 Nxg2 25. Bxg6 Nxh4 26.
Bxf7 Nf3 27. Bf6 Rxh1 28. Rxh1 Be7 29. Bg7 Ng5 30. Bh5 Ne4 31. Re1 Rg8 32.
Be5 b3 33. Bf4 bxc2+ 34. Kxc2 Nd6 35. Re2 Rf8 36. Bd2 Bh4 37. Bg4 Rxf2 38.
Bxe6+ Kc7 39. Rxf2 Bxf2 40. Kd3 c5 41. dxc5 Nb7 42. Bf4+ Kc6 43. b4 Bxc5
44. Kc4 Nd6+ 45. Kc3 Bf2 46. Bh3 Kc7 47. Kd2 Bg1 48. Bg3 Bd4 49. Kc2 Bg1
50. a5 Kc6 51. Bg2+ Kd7 52. Kd3 a6 53. Bh3+ Kc6 54. Bf1 Nf5 55. Be1 Bh2 56.
Bh3 Nd6 57. Bf1 Kc7 58. Bd2 Kc6 59. Be3 Kb5 60. Bd2 Ka4 61. Kd4 Nb5+ 62.
Kd5 Bg1 63. Be2 Bf2 64. Bd3 Bg1 65. Bc2+ 1/2-1/2
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "A80"]
[Opening "Dutch"]
[Variation "Korchnoi, Janzen Gambit"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "163"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 f5 2. h3 Nf6 3. g4 fxg4 4. hxg4 Nxg4 5. Bg5 d6 6. Nc3 c5 7. dxc5 Qa5
8. e4 Bd7 9. Qd5 Qb4 10. Rh3 Nc6 11. cxd6 Nf6 12. Bxf6 exf6 13. O-O-O O-O-O
14. Re3 Bg4 15. Be2 Bxe2 16. a3 Qa5 17. Qe6+ Kb8 18. Ngxe2 Qe5 19. Qf7 Bxd6
20. Qxg7 Rdg8 21. Qf7 Qh2 22. Rf1 Rd8 23. Qe6 Bc5 24. Rf3 Nd4 25. Nxd4 Bxd4
26. Qf5 Bxc3 27. Rxc3 h5 28. Rf3 Qg2 29. Qf4+ Ka8 30. Rd1 Rxd1+ 31. Kxd1
Re8 32. Qxf6 h4 33. Rd3 Qg4+ 34. Qf3 Qg7 35. c3 a6 36. Kc2 Rh8 37. Qh3 Qg5
38. Rd1 Qb5 39. f3 Qe2+ 40. Rd2 Qb5 41. Rh2 Qg5 42. Rh1 Qf4 43. Kb1 Qd2 44.
Ka1 Qe2 45. Qf1 Qd2 46. Qg1 h3 47. Qd4 Qh6 48. e5 Rf8 49. Qd7 Qe3 50. Rxh3
Qxe5 51. Rh7 Qb5 52. Qxb5 axb5 53. Rh3 Kb8 54. Kb1 Kc7 55. Kc2 Kc6 56. Kd3
Kc7 57. Ke2 Kd6 58. Rh4 Rg8 59. Rb4 Kc5 60. f4 Rh8 61. a4 bxa4 62. Rxa4 Kd5
63. Kf3 Rf8 64. Rb4 Kc6 65. Kg4 Rg8+ 66. Kh5 Rh8+ 67. Kg6 Rh2 68. f5 Rg2+
69. Kf7 Rg3 70. f6 Kc7 71. Ke6 b6 72. f7 Rf3 73. Rb5 Kb7 74. Rf5 Re3+ 75.
Kf6 Re2 76. f8=Q Rxb2 77. Qe7+ Kb8 78. Rd5 Rf2+ 79. Kg7 Rg2+ 80. Kf7 Rf2+
81. Ke8 Rd2 82. Rxd2 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "E60"]
[Opening "King's Indian"]
[Variation "3.f3"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "207"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. f3 Nh5 4. e4 e5 5. Be3 Bg7 6. Nc3 d6 7. dxe5 dxe5 8.
Qxd8+ Kxd8 9. O-O-O+ Bd7 10. Nh3 Kc8 11. g3 h6 12. Nf2 Be6 13. Nd3 Nd7 14.
b3 c6 15. Kc2 b6 16. g4 Nhf6 17. h3 g5 18. h4 Nh7 19. c5 Kb7 20. h5 b5 21.
Rh2 Rhc8 22. Rhd2 Nhf6 23. a4 a6 24. Bf2 Bf8 25. b4 a5 26. Rb1 Bc4 27. bxa5
Rxa5 28. Bg3 Bxd3+ 29. Bxd3 b4 30. Rxb4+ Kc7 31. Bc4 Bxc5 32. Rb1 Rf8 33.
Rbd1 Kc8 34. Bb3 Bb4 35. Rd3 Be7 36. Be1 Ra7 37. Bf2 Ra5 38. Be1 Ra7 39.
Ne2 Nc5 40. Rc3 Rd8 41. Bxf7 Rxd1 42. Kxd1 Rxa4 43. Ng3 Kc7 44. Rc2 Nfd7
45. Nf5 Bf8 46. Bc3 Ra3 47. Ne3 Na4 48. Ba5+ Kb7 49. Ke2 Nab6 50. Bc3 Bc5
51. Nf5 Bf8 52. Bb2 Ra4 53. Rc1 Kc7 54. Be6 Ra8 55. Rd1 Ra6 56. Kd2 Ra4 57.
Kc2 Ra8 58. Ra1 Rxa1 59. Bxa1 Kb7 60. Bxd7 Nxd7 61. Ne3 Bd6 62. Nc4 Bc7 63.
Ne3 Bd6 64. Nc4 Bc7 65. Bb2 Ka6 66. Ba3 c5 67. Ne3 Bd6 68. Nc4 Bc7 69. Kb3
Kb5 70. Bc1 Ka6 71. Bd2 Kb5 72. Bc3 Ka6 73. Na3 Bd6 74. Ba1 Bf8 75. Nc4 Bg7
76. Nd6 Bf8 77. Nf7 Kb5 78. Bb2 Bg7 79. Bc3 Kc6 80. Ba5 Kb5 81. Bc7 Nf8 82.
Bxe5 Bxe5 83. Nxe5 Ne6 84. Kc2 Nd4+ 85. Kd3 Kb4 86. f4 Ne6 87. f5 Nf4+ 88.
Kc2 c4 89. f6 Ne6 90. f7 Nd4+ 91. Kd1 Ne6 92. Nd7 Kb3 93. Nc5+ Nxc5 94.
f8=Q Nd3 95. Kd2 Ka4 96. Qb8 Nc5 97. Kc3 Nxe4+ 98. Kxc4 Nd2+ 99. Kc3 Ne4+
100. Kd3 Ka5 101. Kxe4 Ka4 102. Kd4 Ka5 103. Kc5 Ka6 104. Qa8# 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "A40"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn"]
[Variation "Keres Defence, 3.Bd2 Bxd2+"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "143"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. d4 e6 2. c4 Bb4+ 3. Bd2 Bxd2+ 4. Qxd2 b6 5. Nc3 Bb7 6. e4 Nf6 7. f3 d6
8. O-O-O Qe7 9. Kb1 Nc6 10. d5 Ne5 11. f4 Ned7 12. Bd3 e5 13. g3 Nc5 14.
Bc2 Bc8 15. Re1 a6 16. Nf3 b5 17. fxe5 dxe5 18. b4 Nb7 19. c5 Bg4 20. Re3
O-O 21. h3 Bxf3 22. Rxf3 a5 23. d6 cxd6 24. c6 Nd8 25. Nd5 Nxd5 26. exd5
axb4 27. Qxb4 Qa7 28. a3 f6 29. g4 Nf7 30. Rb3 g6 31. Bd3 Qe7 32. Rc1 Rfb8
33. Ka2 Qc7 34. Rcb1 Ra5 35. Qc3 Kg7 36. Bxb5 Rba8 37. Rc1 R5a7 38. h4 Rb8
39. Bd3 Rba8 40. Rc2 Rc8 41. Rcb2 Rca8 42. Bc4 Qa5 43. Qxa5 Rxa5 44. Bd3
R5a7 45. Rc3 Re7 46. Rb7 Ree8 47. c7 Kh6 48. Kb3 e4 49. Bxe4 Ne5 50. Rb6
Ra7 51. c8=Q Rxc8 52. Rxc8 Nxg4 53. Rxd6 Nf2 54. Bc2 Ng4 55. Re6 Rb7+ 56.
Ka2 Rb5 57. d6 Rd5 58. Rc7 Ne5 59. Rxf6 Kh5 60. Rxh7+ Kg4 61. Re7 Kg3 62.
Be4 Rd2+ 63. Kb3 Ng4 64. Rxg6 Kf4 65. Kc3 Rd1 66. Bc2 Rd5 67. Re4+ Kf3 68.
Rgxg4 Rxd6 69. Bd3 Rb6 70. Kd2 Rb2+ 71. Bc2 Rxc2+ 72. Kxc2 1-0
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "B06"]
[Opening "Modern"]
[Variation "3.Nc3 d6 4.Be3 a6"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "189"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Nc3 d6 4. Be3 a6 5. Qd2 b5 6. h4 h5 7. f3 Nf6 8.
O-O-O Nc6 9. Nh3 Bxh3 10. Rxh3 e6 11. Bg5 b4 12. Ne2 Rb8 13. Kb1 a5 14. Qf4
Qe7 15. Qe3 Qd7 16. g4 a4 17. d5 Ne7 18. gxh5 Nxh5 19. Rh1 a3 20. Nd4 e5
21. Nc6 Nxc6 22. Bh3 f5 23. dxc6 Qf7 24. b3 O-O 25. Bf1 Kh7 26. Bc4 Qe8 27.
Bd5 Bf6 28. Qa7 Qe7 29. Bd2 Nf4 30. Qa5 Nxd5 31. Qxd5 f4 32. Be1 Qf7 33.
Qa5 Ra8 34. Qxb4 Rfb8 35. Qc3 Qe8 36. Rg1 Rb6 37. Qd2 Rxc6 38. Qg2 Qf7 39.
Qg4 Rf8 40. c4 Ra6 41. c5 Be7 42. Qd7 Raa8 43. Bc3 Rac8 44. Qg4 Ra8 45. Rd5
Ra7 46. Rc1 Rb8 47. Rcd1 Rg8 48. Kc2 Kh6 49. R1d2 Kh7 50. R2d3 Rf8 51. Qd7
Rfa8 52. Rd1 Rd8 53. Qc6 Qe8 54. Qxe8 Rxe8 55. b4 Rb7 56. c6 Rb6 57. b5 Ra8
58. Be1 Kg7 59. Kb3 Rbb8 60. R1d3 Kh6 61. Rc3 Ra5 62. Kb4 Ra6 63. Bf2 Kg7
64. Kc4 Ra4+ 65. Kb3 Ra6 66. Rc4 Kf7 67. Rb4 Raa8 68. Ra4 Rxa4 69. Kxa4
Ra8+ 70. Kb4 Bf6 71. b6 cxb6 72. Kb5 Bd8 73. Rxd6 Ra5+ 74. Kc4 Ra4+ 75. Kb3
Ra8 76. Rd7+ Be7 77. Be1 Rc8 78. Bb4 Rxc6 79. Rxe7+ Kf6 80. Bxa3 b5 81. Rb7
g5 82. hxg5+ Kxg5 83. Be7+ Kh6 84. Rxb5 Rc7 85. Rxe5 Kg6 86. a4 Ra7 87. a5
Kf7 88. Ka4 Rd7 89. Bc5 Rd3 90. Rf5+ Kg6 91. a6 Rxf3 92. a7 Rf1 93. a8=Q
Ra1+ 94. Ba3 Rxa3+ 95. Kxa3 1-0[/pgn][/pgn][/pgn][/pgn][/pgn]
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Re: For Stronger engines 20 to 40 rating higher than another...........
It is a duplicate, Sorry. 
Last edited by Chessqueen on Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:33 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: For Stronger engines 20 to 40 rating higher than another...........
[quote=Chessqueen post_id=924335 time=1649942716 user_id=10732]
[quote=Chessqueen post_id=924334 time=1649940909 user_id=10732]
Final score after 10 games; 6 wins, and 4 draws in favor of Stockfish
[quote=Chessqueen post_id=924334 time=1649940909 user_id=10732]
Final score after 10 games; 6 wins, and 4 draws in favor of Stockfish
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Re: For Stronger engines 20 to 40 rating higher than another...........
Chessqueen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:44 amIf you are wondering why I adjudicated the first game as a draw, it is because both engines output was as 0.00 since move 60 or for the last 7 moves, but if you were wondering if I had let it played it out this it what it would had happened, even if you remove both Rook it is still a draw simply a white Bishop for 2 Black pawns =Chessqueen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:30 am I would like to know if you match 2 engines where X engine is at least 20 to 40 elo higher or stronger than y engine, if you limit X or the stronger engine to only play by castling long 0-0-0 with the White side , but the weaker engine can castle either way short or long. In a match of 100 or even 500 games what could the outcome be expected. Lets say for instance Stockfish vs Komodo Dragon 2.6.1 ? Can somebody do an experiment of 50 or 100 games Blitz or Rapid with these two Stockfish vs Komodo Dagon 2.6.1. using whatever Opening they like ?
Note: That is for engine vs engine, but if 2 humans rated around 20 to 40 rating different, if the stronger player is limited to only castle long 0-0-0 with white in a match of 20 games do you believe that the weaker player can compensate by limiting his stronger opponent to only castle long?
1st game
[pgn][Event "experiment.at"]
[Site "MININT-UB2PIMJ"]
[Date "2022.04.13"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2"]
[Black "Dragon-2.6.1-64bit-avx2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "3600"]
[ECO "B01"]
[Opening "Scandinavian"]
[Variation "2...Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8"]
[WhiteElo "3628"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/5p2/8/5pk1/8/3BK3/8/8 b - - 0 1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "129"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
1. ... Kg4 2. Kf2 Kg5 3. Kf3 f4 4. Bc2 f5 5. Bb3 Kf6 6. Kxf4 Kg6 7. Be6 Kf6
8. Bxf5 {Insufficient material} 1/2-1/2
1. ... Kg4 2. Kf2 Kg5 3. Kf3 f4 4. Bc2 f5 5. Bb3 Kf6 6. Kxf4 Kg6 7. Be6 Kf6
8. Bxf5 {Insufficient material} 1/2-1/2[/pgn]