Beating Stockfish 14 on time

[abulmo2]

I just tried to figure fastest time control to detect progress fast. E.g. 5 + 0,05 gives similar result to SPCC or NCM. You get 5000 games fast.

Does Stockfish lose on time without time increment? Skipper's games were without time increment and according to the video, Stockfish deserves its loss.

[Jouni]

In Fritz GUI with x moves / y minutes SF loses up to 10% of games by time. So there are big difference in GUIs. In CuteChess no time loses ever with sensible time control.

[Henk]

Suspicious. Only few moves before being check mated.

[Maybe I should create a new file for where games are stored. Because current file already much too long. Might be that writing to that file causes a delay. Who knows. On the other hand Stockfish should be able to win in lesser moves. Being a rook up]

Might be true it is a fault of the operating system when it is too busy. Happens more frequently after starting up in the morning. Maybe busy with updates from network, virus checker or system maintenance in the background.

[pgn]
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "LAPTOP-1FK7MTIP"]
[Date "2022.03.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Skipper_8_19_2_8"]
[Black "Stockfish 14"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "30"]
[Annotator "1. +0.00 1... +0.11"]

1. Nc3 {+0.00/9} d5 {+0.11/18 0.7} 2. Nf3 {+0.14/9 0.5} d4 {+0.42/16 0.3}
3. Nb5 {+0.27/8 0.5} c5 {+0.65/17 0.7} 4. c3 {-0.17/8 0.5} Nf6
{+0.87/17 0.4} 5. Qa4 {+1.03/8 0.5} Bd7 {+0.99/17 0.4} 6. cxd4
{+0.39/8 0.5} a6 {+2.62/19 0.7} 7. e3 {-0.09/7 0.5} Qb6 {+2.79/17 0.1} 8.
dxc5 {-0.09/7 0.5} Bxb5 {+2.76/18 0.1} 9. Qa3 {+0.02/7 0.5} Qa7
{+3.31/17 0.5} 10. Bxb5+ {-0.07/10 0.5} axb5 {+2.83/20 0.5} 11. Qxa7
{-0.33/10 0.5} Rxa7 {+3.54/17 0.3} 12. d4 {-0.27/8 0.4} e6 {+3.56/19 0.8}
13. a3 {-0.29/8 0.4} Be7 {+3.38/20 2.4} 14. b3 {-0.33/8 0.4} O-O
{+3.95/19 1.5} 15. Bb2 {+0.21/8 0.4} Nd5 {+4.03/17 0.4} 16. e4
{+0.59/8 0.4} Nf6 {+4.38/18 0.4} 17. e5 {+0.87/8 0.4} Nd5 {+5.13/14 0.3}
18. O-O {+0.23/7 0.4} Nc6 {+5.83/14 0.5} 19. a4 {-0.19/7 0.4} bxa4
{+6.26/20 0.7} 20. Rxa4 {-0.50/8 0.4} Rxa4 {+5.98/19 0.5} 21. bxa4
{-1.08/8 0.4} Ra8 {+6.04/22 3} 22. Ra1 {-1.32/7 0.4} b6 {+5.86/19 0.2} 23.
cxb6 {-1.85/9 0.4} Nxb6 {+5.95/19 0.2} 24. Rc1 {-2.19/8 0.4} Nd8
{+6.03/18 0.3} 25. Rc7 {-0.95/8 0.4} Nd5 {+6.39/19 0.9} 26. Rc4
{-1.02/8 0.4} Kf8 {+6.54/18 0.3} 27. h4 {-0.68/7 0.4} h6 {+6.15/19 1.4} 28.
h5 {-0.79/7 0.3} Nb6 {+5.04/20 3} 29. Rc2 {-0.93/8 0.3} Rxa4 {+5.03/18 0.2}
30. Rc7 {-1.90/7 0.3} Nd5 {+6.41/18 0.5} 31. Rc8 {-1.71/8 0.3} Ke8
{+6.65/19 0.1} 32. Rb8 {-1.48/7 0.3} Bb4 {+7.15/15 0.2} 33. Kf1
{-0.94/7 0.3} Ra2 {+7.99/16 0.2} 34. Rxb4 {-4.11/7 0.3} Nxb4 {+7.68/17 0.4}
35. Bc3 {-4.89/9 0.3} Nd3 {+7.17/20 1.5} 36. Bd2 {-4.94/8 0.3} Nc6
{+7.59/15 0.2} 37. Be3 {-4.76/8 0.3} Ne7 {+7.28/17 1.0} 38. Nd2
{-4.70/7 0.3} Nd5 {+7.30/16 0.2} 39. Nf3 {-5.38/8 0.3} Kd7 {+8.61/15 0.2}
40. Bd2 {-4.99/8 0.3} Ra1+ {+8.69/15 0.2} 41. Ke2 {-5.53/8 0.3} N3f4+
{+8.55/15 0.1} 42. Bxf4 {-6.48/10 0.3} Nxf4+ {+8.76/18 0.2} 43. Kd2
{-6.28/7 0.3} Nxg2 {+9.00/18 0.2} 44. Kd3 {-6.68/7 0.3} Ra3+ {+9.00/15 0.2}
45. Ke4 {-6.79/8 0.3} Ra2 {+9.39/21 0.1} 46. d5 {-6.98/8 0.3} Ra4+
{+9.66/13 0.2} 47. Nd4 {-7.12/8 0.2} exd5+ {+10.14/18 0.2} 48. Kxd5
{-6.90/7 0.2} Nf4+ {+10.69/17 0.2} 49. Kc5 {-7.15/8 0.3} Ne6+
{+61.09/24 0.2} 50. Nxe6 {-8.09/9 0.2} Kxe6 {+68.21/24 0.2} 51. Kb5
{-8.21/8 0.2} Rf4 {+68.29/26 0.2} 52. f3 {-9.08/8 0.2} Rxf3 {+68.97/25 0.2}
53. Kc4 {-9.67/8 0.2} Kxe5 {+77.76/26 0.1} 54. Kc5 {-10.02/8 0.2} Rc3+
{+78.66/26 0.1} 55. Kb4 {-9.95/8 0.3} Kd4 {+99.69/29 0.1} 56. Ka5
{-10.56/8 0.2} Kc5 {+99.91/26 0.2} 57. Ka6 {-10.56/8 0.2} Kc6
{+99.93/163 0.5} 58. Ka7 {-327.60/8 0.3}
{White wins on time} 1-0
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[Henk]

I think Stockfish looses on time when my computer is busy with downloading software updates in the background. Or other (network) activities.
Usually happening at the end of the week.

[Henk]

I have downloaded Stockfish 15. Easy win (on time)

[pgn]
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "LAPTOP-1FK7MTIP"]
[Date "2022.04.21"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Skipper_13"]
[Black "Stockfish 190422"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "30"]
[Annotator "1. +0.35 1... +0.04"]

1. Nc3 {+0.35/7} d5 {+0.04/17 0.8} 2. Nf3 {+0.26/7 0.5} Nf6 {+0.28/17 0.7}
3. b4 {-0.16/7 0.5} e5 {+1.13/16 0.9} 4. Nxe5 {+0.30/7 0.5} Bxb4
{+1.02/17 0.2} 5. a3 {+0.28/6 0.5} Ba5 {+1.58/16 0.6} 6. Nb5 {+0.17/6 0.5}
Ne4 {+2.44/16 1.1} 7. c3 {-0.68/6 0.5} c5 {+4.40/17 1.8} 8. d3
{+0.10/4 0.5} Nxc3 {+8.98/16 0.5} 9. Nxc3 {-4.78/8 0.5} Bxc3+
{+8.96/13 0.2} 10. Bd2 {-4.81/8 0.4} Bxe5 {+9.09/16 0.1} 11. Rc1
{-5.16/6 0.4} Nd7 {+8.77/20 3} 12. e4 {-4.67/6 0.4} Bb2 {+9.25/18 1.6} 13.
Rb1 {-3.37/6 0.4} Bd4 {+8.94/22 3} 14. exd5 {-4.62/6 0.4} O-O
{+9.66/18 1.6} 15. Be2 {-3.82/5 0.4} Nb6 {+9.48/18 0.5} 16. O-O
{-4.24/6 0.4} Nxd5 {+9.35/16 0.2} 17. Bf3 {-4.49/6 0.4} b6 {+9.53/15 0.2}
18. Be4 {-4.98/5 0.4} Be6 {+9.66/17 0.9} 19. a4 {-5.32/5 0.4} Rc8
{+9.75/16 1.1} 20. Qc1 {-5.20/5 0.4} Qd6 {+9.95/14 0.8} 21. Kh1
{-5.66/5 0.4} Nf6 {+10.31/14 1.2} 22. Bb7 {-5.88/5 0.4} Rcd8
{+10.19/18 1.8} 23. Be4 {-5.73/4 0.4} Ba2 {+11.12/14 0.4} 24. Rb5
{-6.81/6 0.4} Nxe4 {+10.37/18 1.5} 25. dxe4 {-6.98/6 0.3} Qe6
{+10.73/15 0.4} 26. Bg5 {-7.18/5 0.4} f6 {+10.70/12 0.2} 27. Be3
{-7.45/6 0.4} Qxe4 {+10.73/14 0.2} 28. Re1 {-7.03/5 0.3} Rfe8
{+11.08/13 0.7} 29. f3 {-7.39/6 0.3} Bxe3 {+11.37/12 0.3} 30. fxe4
{-8.17/8 0.3} Bxc1 {+11.42/12 0.1} 31. Rxc1 {-8.78/7 0.3} Bc4
{+11.65/13 0.1} 32. Rb2 {-8.55/8 0.3} Rxe4 {+11.51/12 0.2} 33. Rcb1
{-8.77/6 0.3} Bd3 {+12.15/10 0.2} 34. Ra1 {-8.24/7 0.3} Kf7 {+12.29/10 0.3}
35. a5 {-7.37/6 0.3} b5 {+13.29/10 0.1} 36. Rf2 {-7.76/6 0.3} Rd5
{+13.88/11 0.2} 37. Rf3 {-7.92/7 0.3} c4 {+14.19/14 0.2} 38. Rh3
{-8.19/6 0.3} b4 {+14.85/10 0.1} 39. Rf3 {-9.01/7 0.3} b3 {+15.98/12 0.2}
40. Rf2 {-9.82/6 0.3} c3 {+18.05/9 0.2} 41. Rff1 {-12.17/6 0.3} Bxf1
{+22.88/10 0.2} 42. Rxf1 {-16.77/6 0.3} b2 {+31.82/15 0.2} 43. g4
{-21.68/6 0.3} c2 {+31.82/2 0.1} 44. Kg2 {-24.58/8 0.3} b1=Q
{+99.91/38 0.2} 45. Rxb1 {-25.19/7 0.3} cxb1=Q {+99.93/62 0.2} 46. a6
{-327.60/6 0.3}
{White wins on time} 1-0
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[Henk]

This time I played myself with white against Skipper. But lost on time. Bastard. Time control five minutes

[pgn]
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "LAPTOP-1FK7MTIP"]
[Date "2022.05.02"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Gebruiker"]
[Black "Skipper_13"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "300"]
[Annotator "1... -0.14"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 {-0.14/9 5} 2. g3 c5 {+0.51/8 5} 3. Bg2 d5 {+0.79/9 5} 4. O-O
Nc6 {+2.38/7 5} 5. d4 cxd4 {+2.38/9 5} 6. Nxd4 e5 {+2.54/9 5} 7. Nxc6 bxc6
{+2.14/8 4} 8. c4 Bb7 {+1.80/7 4} 9. Nc3 e4 {+1.71/6 4} 10. Qa4 Nd7
{+1.69/8 4} 11. Be3 Nb6 {+1.22/8 4} 12. Bxb6 axb6 {+1.52/9 4} 13. Qb3 Ra5
{+1.37/7 4} 14. cxd5 cxd5 {+1.74/8 4} 15. e3 Be7 {+1.61/7 4} 16. Nb5 O-O
{+2.39/8 4} 17. Rac1 Qa8 {+1.76/7 4} 18. a3 Rd8 {+1.91/7 4} 19. Nd4 Bc5
{+1.53/7 4} 20. Rfd1 Bc8 {+1.76/6 4} 21. Qc2 Ra6 {+1.42/7 4} 22. Nb5 Ra5
{+0.58/8 3} 23. Nc7 Qc6 {+0.62/8 3} 24. b4 Rxa3 {-0.90/8 3} 25. bxc5 Qxc7
{+0.36/9 3} 26. cxb6 Qxc2 {+0.57/9 3} 27. Rxc2 Rf8 {-0.38/8 3} 28. Rdc1 Ba6
{-0.35/8 3} 29. Rc7 Rb3 {+0.32/9 3} 30. Ra7 Rxb6 {+1.27/9 3} 31. h4 Rc8
{+1.29/8 3} 32. Rxc8+ Bxc8 {-2.29/11 3} 33. Ra8 f5 {-2.44/10 2.9} 34. Rxc8+
Kf7 {-2.75/8 2.9} 35. h5 h6 {-2.67/7 2.8} 36. Bh3 g6 {-3.34/8 2.8} 37. g4
fxg4 {-2.64/9 2.7} 38. Bxg4 gxh5 {-2.57/8 2.7} 39. Bxh5+ Ke6 {-2.63/8 2.6}
40. Rg8 Kf5 {-2.61/8 2.6} 41. Kg2 Rc6 {-2.77/8 2.6} 42. Kg3 Rc3
{-2.76/8 2.5} 43. Bf7 d4 {-2.79/8 2.5} 44. Bg6+ Ke5 {-2.78/9 2.4} 45. Re8+
Kf6 {-2.78/10 2.4} 46. Bxe4 dxe3 {-2.78/9 2.3} 47. f3 Kf7 {-2.68/8 2.3} 48.
Ra8 Rc1 {-2.65/8 2.3} 49. Ra2 Re1 {-3.61/8 2.2} 50. Kf4 Ke6 {-3.68/7 2.2}
51. Ra3 h5 {-3.73/8 2.2} 52. Rxe3 Rxe3 {-3.76/8 2.1} 53. Kxe3 Ke5
{-3.83/9 2.1} 54. f4+ Kf6 {-4.85/9 2.1} 55. Bg2 Kf5 {-3.82/9 2.0} 56. Kf3
Kf6 {-3.83/9 2.0} 57. Bh3 Kg6 {-4.89/9 2.0} 58. Ke4 Kf6 {-3.83/9 1.9} 59.
f5 Kg5 {-4.90/9 1.9} 60. Ke5 Kh4 {-10.17/11 1.9} 61. Bf1 Kg5
{-13.81/10 1.8} 62. f6 Kh6 {-13.81/9 1.8} 63. f7 Kg7 {-13.92/10 1.8} 64.
Ke6 Kf8 {-13.92/10 1.7} 65. Bh3 h4 {-15.03/11 1.7} 66. Bg4 Kg7
{-15.04/9 1.7}
{Black wins on time} 0-1
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