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I have updated my "Engines Crackers", various puzzles have been eliminated as too easy, some new ones have been added.
Analysis and downloads here:
https://glarean-magazin.ch/2021/09/20/c ... s-puzzles/
(The English translation on the top left)
A small sample:
White on move (Stockfish vs LeelaChess)
[fen]r4rn1/2p1q1kn/1p1p1pp1/p2Pp1Pp/2P1PPb1/1P1Q2P1/P1B3K1/1RBN1R2 w[/fen]
Regards: Walter
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New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
Nice selection. Position 06.
[fen]r1kn4/p7/pP6/2K5/B1R5/1N6/8/3n4 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Analysis by The Huntsman 1:
1.Na5 Nb2 2.Rc2 Nd3+ 3.Kd6+ Kb8 4.b7 Nxb7+ 5.Nxb7 Kxb7 6.Bc6+ Kb6 7.Bxa8 Nb4 8.Rc1 a5 9.Bc6 Nxc6 10.Rxc6+ Kb5 11.Rc7 Kb4 12.Kd5 a6 13.Kd4 Kb3 14.Rb7+ Kc2 15.Kc4 a4 16.Rg7 Kd2 17.Rg3 Kc2 18.Ra3 Kd2 19.Kd4 Ke2 20.Rxa4 Kf3 21.Rxa6 Kf4 22.Ra5 Kf3 23.Rf5+ Kg4 24.Ke4 Kg3 25.Rf4 Kg2 26.Ke3 Kg3 27.Rd4 Kg2 28.Rg4+ Kh3 29.Kf3 Kh2 30.Rh4+ Kg1 31.Rh7 Kf1 32.Rh1#
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[fen]r1kn4/p7/pP6/2K5/B1R5/1N6/8/3n4 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Analysis by The Huntsman 1:
1.Na5 Nb2 2.Rc2 Nd3+ 3.Kd6+ Kb8 4.b7 Nxb7+ 5.Nxb7 Kxb7 6.Bc6+ Kb6 7.Bxa8 Nb4 8.Rc1 a5 9.Bc6 Nxc6 10.Rxc6+ Kb5 11.Rc7 Kb4 12.Kd5 a6 13.Kd4 Kb3 14.Rb7+ Kc2 15.Kc4 a4 16.Rg7 Kd2 17.Rg3 Kc2 18.Ra3 Kd2 19.Kd4 Ke2 20.Rxa4 Kf3 21.Rxa6 Kf4 22.Ra5 Kf3 23.Rf5+ Kg4 24.Ke4 Kg3 25.Rf4 Kg2 26.Ke3 Kg3 27.Rd4 Kg2 28.Rg4+ Kh3 29.Kf3 Kh2 30.Rh4+ Kg1 31.Rh7 Kf1 32.Rh1#
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
Well, yes, but the Major Dual 1.Kd6 isn't much longer as for DTM, is it?Jouni wrote: ↑Thu May 26, 2022 10:34 pm Nice selection. Position 06.
[fen]r1kn4/p7/pP6/2K5/B1R5/1N6/8/3n4 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Analysis by The Huntsman 1:
1.Na5 Nb2 2.Rc2 Nd3+ 3.Kd6+ Kb8 4.b7 Nxb7+ 5.Nxb7 Kxb7 6.Bc6+ Kb6 7.Bxa8 Nb4 8.Rc1 a5 9.Bc6 Nxc6 10.Rxc6+ Kb5 11.Rc7 Kb4 12.Kd5 a6 13.Kd4 Kb3 14.Rb7+ Kc2 15.Kc4 a4 16.Rg7 Kd2 17.Rg3 Kc2 18.Ra3 Kd2 19.Kd4 Ke2 20.Rxa4 Kf3 21.Rxa6 Kf4 22.Ra5 Kf3 23.Rf5+ Kg4 24.Ke4 Kg3 25.Rf4 Kg2 26.Ke3 Kg3 27.Rd4 Kg2 28.Rg4+ Kh3 29.Kf3 Kh2 30.Rh4+ Kg1 31.Rh7 Kf1 32.Rh1#
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Takes me too long to keep the exakt one in hash way back to starting position, yet I guess something like that might be about right?
r1kn4/p7/pP6/2K5/B1R5/1N6/8/3n4 w - -
1. Kd6+(!?) Kb7 2. Nc5+ Kxb6 3. Be8 Nf7+ 4. Bxf7 Rd8+ 5. Nd7+
Kb5 6. Rc1 Ne3 7. Rc3 Nf5+ 8. Kc7 Rh8 9. Rc5+ Kb4 10. Rxf5
Kc3 11. Rf3+ Kd4 12. Kd6 a5 13. Ra3 Ra8 14. Rxa5 Kc3
15. Ra6 Rd8 16. Rxa7 Kd4 17. Be6 Rh8 18. Ra4+ Ke3 19. Ke5
Rh5+ 20. Bf5 Kd2 21. Ra3 Rh4 22. Be4 Rh6 23. Nc5 Rh8
24. Kd4 Rd8+ 25. Bd5 Ke2 26. Ra2+ Kf1 27. Nd3 Kg1 28. Nf4
Re8 29. Be4 Re7 30. Ke3 Rxe4+ 31. Kxe4 Kf1 32. Ke3 Kg1
33. Kf3 Kh1 34. Kg3 Kg1 35. Ra1# 1-0
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
Huntsman mate was surprising: 6 cores only and no takebacks!
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
3...a5 is the biggest stolperstein in Backward, could be quite some moves longer, but I doubt it, this one output of Slowchess after 1.Kd6 Kb7 2.Nc5+ Kxb6 3.Be8 a5:peter wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 7:47 am
r1kn4/p7/pP6/2K5/B1R5/1N6/8/3n4 w - -
1. Kd6+(!?) Kb7 2. Nc5+ Kxb6 3. Be8 Nf7+ 4. Bxf7 Rd8+ 5. Nd7+
Kb5 6. Rc1 Ne3 7. Rc3 Nf5+ 8. Kc7 Rh8 9. Rc5+ Kb4 10. Rxf5
Kc3 11. Rf3+ Kd4 12. Kd6 a5 13. Ra3 Ra8 14. Rxa5 Kc3
15. Ra6 Rd8 16. Rxa7 Kd4 17. Be6 Rh8 18. Ra4+ Ke3 19. Ke5
Rh5+ 20. Bf5 Kd2 21. Ra3 Rh4 22. Be4 Rh6 23. Nc5 Rh8
24. Kd4 Rd8+ 25. Bd5 Ke2 26. Ra2+ Kf1 27. Nd3 Kg1 28. Nf4
Re8 29. Be4 Re7 30. Ke3 Rxe4+ 31. Kxe4 Kf1 32. Ke3 Kg1
33. Kf3 Kh1 34. Kg3 Kg1 35. Ra1# 1-0
r2nB3/p7/1k1K4/p1N5/2R5/8/8/3n4 w - -
Engine: SlowChess Blitz 2.8 avx20 (32768 MB)
von Jonathan Kreuzer
31/128 0:09 +M47 4.Tc1 a6 5.Sd7+ Kb5 6.Tb1+ Sb2
7.Txb2+ Kc4 8.Sb6+ Kc3 9.Sa4+ Kd4
10.Ke7 Ke4 11.Td2 Sb7 12.Lc6+ Ke3
13.Lxb7 Th8 14.Tb2 Th7+ 15.Kd6 Th6+
16.Kc7 Th7+ 17.Kb6 (445.298.504) 47933
is a way too long DTM probably, just would have to have some extra- Forward- Backward again, doesn't matter enough to me to go on trying regards
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
Yes, impressive. would you like to give it a try with 1.Kd6(!?)?
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
Does somebody know which positions were deleted and which are new?
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
After 1.Kd6+ Kb7 analysis by The Huntsman 1:
2.Nc5+ Kxb6 3.Be8 a5 4.Rc1 a6 5.Nd7+ Kb5 6.Rb1+ Nb2 7.Rxb2+ Kc4 8.Nb6+ Kc3 9.Na4+ Kd4 10.Ke7 Ne6 11.Bc6 Rc8 12.Bd7 Nc5 13.Bxc8 Nxa4 14.Ra2 Nc5 15.Rxa5 Nb3 16.Ra4+ Ke5 17.Bb7 Nd2 18.Ra5+ Kd4 19.Bd5 Nb1 20.Kd6 Nc3 21.Kc6 Ne2 22.Ra4+ Ke3 23.Rxa6 Nf4 24.Kd6 Nd3 25.Ra3 Kd4 26.Ra4+ Ke3 27.Re4+ Kd2 28.Re7 Kc1 29.Ra7 Kb2 30.Ra5 Kc3 31.Be4 Nf4 32.Ra2 Kd4 33.Ra4+ Kc3 34.Ke5 Ne2 35.Bd5 Nc1 36.Bc4 Kd2 37.Ra3 Kd1 38.Kd4 Kd2 39.Rh3 Kc2 40.Rh2+ Kd1 41.Kc3
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2.Nc5+ Kxb6 3.Be8 a5 4.Rc1 a6 5.Nd7+ Kb5 6.Rb1+ Nb2 7.Rxb2+ Kc4 8.Nb6+ Kc3 9.Na4+ Kd4 10.Ke7 Ne6 11.Bc6 Rc8 12.Bd7 Nc5 13.Bxc8 Nxa4 14.Ra2 Nc5 15.Rxa5 Nb3 16.Ra4+ Ke5 17.Bb7 Nd2 18.Ra5+ Kd4 19.Bd5 Nb1 20.Kd6 Nc3 21.Kc6 Ne2 22.Ra4+ Ke3 23.Rxa6 Nf4 24.Kd6 Nd3 25.Ra3 Kd4 26.Ra4+ Ke3 27.Re4+ Kd2 28.Re7 Kc1 29.Ra7 Kb2 30.Ra5 Kc3 31.Be4 Nf4 32.Ra2 Kd4 33.Ra4+ Kc3 34.Ke5 Ne2 35.Bd5 Nc1 36.Bc4 Kd2 37.Ra3 Kd1 38.Kd4 Kd2 39.Rh3 Kc2 40.Rh2+ Kd1 41.Kc3
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
Yet after the same first 9 movesJouni wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 1:12 pm After 1.Kd6+ Kb7 analysis by The Huntsman 1:
2.Nc5+ Kxb6 3.Be8 a5 4.Rc1 a6 5.Nd7+ Kb5 6.Rb1+ Nb2 7.Rxb2+ Kc4 8.Nb6+ Kc3 9.Na4+ Kd4 10.Ke7 Ne6 11.Bc6 Rc8 12.Bd7 Nc5 13.Bxc8 Nxa4 14.Ra2 Nc5 15.Rxa5 Nb3 16.Ra4+ Ke5 17.Bb7 Nd2 18.Ra5+ Kd4 19.Bd5 Nb1 20.Kd6 Nc3 21.Kc6 Ne2 22.Ra4+ Ke3 23.Rxa6 Nf4 24.Kd6 Nd3 25.Ra3 Kd4 26.Ra4+ Ke3 27.Re4+ Kd2 28.Re7 Kc1 29.Ra7 Kb2 30.Ra5 Kc3 31.Be4 Nf4 32.Ra2 Kd4 33.Ra4+ Kc3 34.Ke5 Ne2 35.Bd5 Nc1 36.Bc4 Kd2 37.Ra3 Kd1 38.Kd4 Kd2 39.Rh3 Kc2 40.Rh2+ Kd1 41.Kc3
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1. Kd6+ Kb7 2. Nc5+ Kxb6 3. Be8 a5 4. Rc1 a6 5. Nd7+ Kb5 6. Rb1+ Nb2 7. Rxb2+ Kc4 8. Nb6+ Kc3 9. Na4+ Kd4 :
[fen]r2nB3/8/p2K4/p7/N2k4/8/1R6/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Analysis by The Huntsman 1 bmi2:
10.Ke7 Se6 11.Lc6 Tc8 12.Kd7 Tc7+ 13.Kd6 Tg7 14.Kxe6 Tg6+ 15.Kd7 Tg7+ 16.Kd6 Tg6+ 17.Kc7 Tg7+ 18.Ld7 Tg6 19.Th2 Tf6 20.Th5 Tf2 21.Txa5 Td2 22.Sc5 Ke5 23.Txa6 Tc2 24.Ta5 Th2 25.Se6+ Ke4 26.Lc6+ Kd3 27.Kd6 Tc2 28.Ta4 Kc3 29.Ld5 Tb2 30.Ta3+ Kd2 31.Kc5 Ke1 32.Sf4 Td2 33.Th3 Kd1 34.Sd3 Tc2+ 35.Kd4 Tc8 36.Th1+ Ke2 37.Th2+ Kf1 38.Ke3 Te8+ 39.Le4 Txe4+ 40.Kxe4 Kg1 41.Tf2 Kh1 42.Kf3 Kg1 43.Kg3 Kh1 44.Tf1#
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Don't know, if I'll find the hardware- time for the rest of the first 9 moves keeping DTM in hash at further Backward, but more then the up to here given 44 all in all it won't become after 1.Kd6!? neither, I guess, which to me is reason enough to talk about a major dual.
Edit: Already five moves nearer to root position:
1. Kd6+ Kb7 2. Nc5+ Kxb6 3. Be8 a5 4. Rc1 a6 :
[fen]r2nB3/8/pk1K4/p1N5/8/8/8/2Rn4 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Analysis by The Huntsman 1 bmi2:
5.Nd7+ Kb5 6.Rb1+ Nb2 7.Rxb2+ Kc4 8.Nb6+ Kc3 9.Na4+ Kd4 10.Ke7 Ne6 11.Bc6 Rc8 12.Kd7 Rc7+ 13.Kd6 Rh7 14.Kxe6 Rh6+ 15.Kd7 Rh7+ 16.Kd6 Rh6+ 17.Kc7 Rh7+ 18.Bd7 Rh6 19.Ra2 Kc4 20.Nb6+ Kb4 21.Ra4+ Kc3 22.Rxa5 Kd4 23.Rxa6 Ke4 24.Ra4+ Kf3 25.Nd5 Kf2 26.Bf5 Kf3 27.Kd7 Kf2 28.Be6 Ke2 29.Kd6 Kd3 30.Nf4+ Ke3 31.Ke5 Rh8 32.Ra3+ Kd2 33.Kd4 Rd8+ 34.Bd5 Rc8 35.Rh3 Rd8 36.Rh2+ Kd1 37.Ke3 Re8+ 38.Be4 Kc1 39.Nd3+ Kb1 40.Nb4+ Rxe4+ 41.Kxe4 Ka1 42.Kd4 Kb1 43.Kc3 Ka1 44.Rh1#
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Re: New update of the ENGINES CRACKERS (3rd version)
And finally back to the root- position itself:
[fen]r1kn4/p7/pP6/2K5/B1R5/1N6/8/3n4 w - - 0 1[/fen]
1. Kd6+(!?)
[fen]r1kn4/p7/pP1K4/8/B1R5/1N6/8/3n4 b - - 0 1[/fen]
Analysis by The Huntsman 1 bmi2:
1...Kb7 2.Nc5+ Kxb6 3.Be8 a5 4.Rc1 a6 5.Nd7+ Kb5 6.Rb1+ Nb2 7.Rxb2+ Kc4 8.Nb6+ Kc3 9.Na4+ Kd4 10.Ke7 Kd3 11.Kd7 Nc6 12.Bg6+ Kd4 13.Kxc6 Rc8+ 14.Kd6 Rd8+ 15.Kc7 Rg8 16.Bf5 Ke5 17.Bd7 Rg1 18.Ra2 Rc1+ 19.Bc6 Rg1 20.Nc5 Rg7+ 21.Bd7 Rg1 22.Rxa5 Rd1 23.Bc6 Kd4 24.Nxa6 Kc3 25.Bd5 Re1 26.Kd6 Re8 27.Be6 Rf8 28.Ra3+ Kb2 29.Rh3 Rd8+ 30.Ke5 Kc2 31.Nc5 Kd2 32.Ne4+ Kc1 33.Bd5 Rc8 34.Kd4 Kb2 35.Nd6 Rc2 36.Nc4+ Ka1 37.Rh1+ Ka2 38.Ne3+ Kb2 39.Nxc2 Kxc2 40.Rh2+ Kd1 41.Bb3+ Ke1 42.Ke3 Kf1 43.Bd5 Kg1
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