Apple M2

[Tord]

For what it's worth, I have both an M1 Ultra and a Ryzen 5950X at my desk, and I prefer the M1 Ultra for computer chess most of the time, because it's almost as fast as the 5950X while being almost completely silent and using nowhere near as much power.

[Werewolf]

For what it's worth, I have both an M1 Ultra and a Ryzen 5950X at my desk, and I prefer the M1 Ultra for computer chess most of the time, because it's almost as fast as the 5950X while being almost completely silent and using nowhere near as much power.

Presumably you’re using chess software in MacOS though? Because I’ve heard parallels will only support 8 cores with Apple Silicon running Windows.

[Tord]

Presumably you’re using chess software in MacOS though?

Of course, yes. MacOS on the M1 Ultra, Linux on the 5950X.

[Magnum]

For what it's worth, I have both an M1 Ultra and a Ryzen 5950X at my desk, and I prefer the M1 Ultra for computer chess most of the time, because it's almost as fast as the 5950X while being almost completely silent and using nowhere near as much power.

That’s nothing special. Most of my friends and chess club members are doing the same.

[Magnum]

For what it's worth, I have both an M1 Ultra and a Ryzen 5950X at my desk, and I prefer the M1 Ultra for computer chess most of the time, because it's almost as fast as the 5950X while being almost completely silent and using nowhere near as much power.

Presumably you’re using chess software in MacOS though? Because I’ve heard parallels will only support 8 cores with Apple Silicon running Windows.

If someone does not like Parallels, for whatever reason, they can use Linux, CrossOver…

[h1a8]

I want to know the nps myself. Too much derailing the thread with posts not giving any nps measurements. I could care less about anything other than the nps count. Can't find this Info anywhere so far.

[towforce]

I want to know the nps myself. Too much derailing the thread with posts not giving any nps measurements. I could care less about anything other than the nps count. Can't find this Info anywhere so far.

I think your problem isn't so much the thread being derailed as nobody here having the exact information you want.

I will hold up my hands and admit to being part of the derailing issue, but I'm also claiming to have provided the most useful alternative information: the link I provided showed that the new M2 gets a better GeekBench score than most M1s, but not as good a score as the best M1 models. It seems reasonable to think that the same probably applies to SF NPS. As the article says, if you want max speed, your choice is:

1. buy the best of the older models

2. wait for the faster versions of the M2 to be launched

[wickedpotus]

I want to know the nps myself. Too much derailing the thread with posts not giving any nps measurements. I could care less about anything other than the nps count. Can't find this Info anywhere so far.

I am pretty sure some Apple fanboys would be all over here and post nps numbers if they where any good for the M2 or even close to a similar priced alderlake-based laptop

My gripe is that most Apple fanboys talk big about Apple Silicon but suddenly get very quiet when asked to provide reol-world benches on latest LC0 SF etc.

[Modern Times]

I am pretty sure some Apple fanboys would be all over here and post nps numbers if they where any good for the M2 or even close to a similar priced alderlake-based laptop

My gripe is that most Apple fanboys talk big about Apple Silicon but suddenly get very quiet when asked to provide reol-world benches on latest LC0 SF etc.

Yes I'd like to see some actual nps numbers.

I've seen a couple of reviews now of Apple vs latest Intel laptops, and although they exchange blows, with Apple clearly optimised for content creation for example, the consensus seems to be that Intel is the choice for typical workloads. On top of that, Windows is also the choice of the vast majority of users.

[BrendanJNorman]

I'm not gonna geek out too much on this, just share a little bit from my own Mac and that's it.



Here's my machine:



It's enough for my needs. And enough for most people's needs.

If you want to drool over n/ps and "benchs" then sure, don't get a Mac...

This juvenile Mac vs PC debate (where Mac owners are called "fanboys" and PC owners somehow think they're anti-capitalists or something ) has been going on at least since I was in school, and I'm in my late 30s now...

Just get what you want and respect others' decisions to do the same. No need to talk shit.

Not everyone buys a Mac *just* for chess.

My opinion is that if you actually care about chess (I'm sure a lot of people on this forum long ago forgot the moves, but just come here to fight and talk about computer peripherals lol), then 10 of these cores (or even 2, tbh) is MORE than enough.

My machine is mostly used for video editing, but it does a decent job for chess purposes.