Power Fritz 18
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Power Fritz 18
Isn't this just basically a rebranding?
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pohl4711
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Re: Power Fritz 18
A slightly improved Fritz 18 (Ginkgo) Engine and the "PowerBook" are included (normally, you have to buy the Fritz Powerbook separately).
I will definitly not buy it for 80€, just for testing a little stronger Fritz 18 engine... no thanks.
If anybody does not have the Fritz Powerbook and want to get it, then it could make sense to buy it. Otherwise definitly not. If you already own Fritz 18 (like me).
My 2 cents
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reflectionofpower
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Re: Power Fritz 18
I saw that too. I already have Fritz 18 and HIARCS latest book. Just a rebranding ploy.
"Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." (Dune - 1984)
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Eduard
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Re: Power Fritz 18
Translate from german: In Vienna, the most popular chess program was again able to underline its exceptional position.
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I am not belighted!
Table TCEC S23 - League 1:

Only one Engine is weaker.
Lots of defeats on PlayChess. What is worse, however, are not the defeats but the evaluation of the engine.
[fen]4r2r/1k1nb1p1/1pp3p1/p4pP1/3P1P1P/1PNn1BK1/1P1B4/R1R5 w - - 0 29[/fen]
Eman says +3 but PowerFritz 18 is at Nd3 {-0.01/37 0}). Who can trust the eval of such an engine? I didn't expect PowerFritz 18 to be a grenade, but the evaluation should be a little bit correct.
Next game:
[fen]3r1bk1/1p3p2/7p/1Pp1PP1p/r1P1p3/p3K1P1/P7/B1R2R2 b - - 0 34[/fen]
Stockfish +2.72, PowerFritz 18 only +0.62.
Stockfish vs. PowerFritz 18 1-0, PlayChess today:
[fen]1r2qr1k/p1pb2pp/1p1pn3/2n1pPR1/2P1P2N/3PB3/6QP/4RB1K w - - 0 29[/fen]
PowerFritz 18 +0.54 -->Stockfish +3.49.
I didn't think a world champion would be so weak, sorry. As you can see on TCEC, there are many amateur engines that are better. A talented youth club player with ambitions (and all youth should be) can't do good analysis with such an engine.
(About the graphics: I can post full PGN)
(ChessBase)
I am not belighted!
Table TCEC S23 - League 1:

Only one Engine is weaker.
Lots of defeats on PlayChess. What is worse, however, are not the defeats but the evaluation of the engine.
[fen]4r2r/1k1nb1p1/1pp3p1/p4pP1/3P1P1P/1PNn1BK1/1P1B4/R1R5 w - - 0 29[/fen]
Eman says +3 but PowerFritz 18 is at Nd3 {-0.01/37 0}). Who can trust the eval of such an engine? I didn't expect PowerFritz 18 to be a grenade, but the evaluation should be a little bit correct.
Next game:
[fen]3r1bk1/1p3p2/7p/1Pp1PP1p/r1P1p3/p3K1P1/P7/B1R2R2 b - - 0 34[/fen]
Stockfish +2.72, PowerFritz 18 only +0.62.
Stockfish vs. PowerFritz 18 1-0, PlayChess today:
[fen]1r2qr1k/p1pb2pp/1p1pn3/2n1pPR1/2P1P2N/3PB3/6QP/4RB1K w - - 0 29[/fen]
PowerFritz 18 +0.54 -->Stockfish +3.49.
I didn't think a world champion would be so weak, sorry. As you can see on TCEC, there are many amateur engines that are better. A talented youth club player with ambitions (and all youth should be) can't do good analysis with such an engine.
(About the graphics: I can post full PGN)
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CornfedForever
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Re: Power Fritz 18
That sounds 'cynical'. It seems really to be aimed toward someone who doesn't have both...maybe an older version of Fritz (or vice-versa), a 'bonus' for upgrading.reflectionofpower wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:47 pm I saw that too. I already have Fritz 18 and HIARCS latest book. Just a rebranding ploy.
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Damir
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Re: Power Fritz 18
Hi Stefanpohl4711 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:58 am
A slightly improved Fritz 18 (Ginkgo) Engine and the "PowerBook" are included (normally, you have to buy the Fritz Powerbook separately).
I will definitly not buy it for 80€, just for testing a little stronger Fritz 18 engine... no thanks.
If anybody does not have the Fritz Powerbook and want to get it, then it could make sense to buy it. Otherwise definitly not. If you already own Fritz 18 (like me).
My 2 cents
Maybe I missed something, but does Power Fritz 18 (GinkGo) engine also come together with 128 cores like it was in WCCC...
In that case one might consider buying it..
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Eduard
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Re: Power Fritz 18
Power Fritz 18 Upgrade from Fritz 18 now 39.90 Euro:
https://shop.chessbase.com/de/products/ ... 18_upgrade
https://shop.chessbase.com/de/products/ ... 18_upgrade
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Werewolf
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Re: Power Fritz 18
Chessbase are emailing Fritz 18 "deals".
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Re: Power Fritz 18
The only reason I would have to consider is 12 months Premium Account, but I don't even play there enough anymore. Still after all the dust has settled from the cheating news, I bet they bring back the webcam feature for a new fee down the road.
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Eduard
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Re: Power Fritz 18
I bought because I have Fritz 18. I play live on the server. For 12 months I would have to pay 35 euros (starter no premium). I don't care about the engine, but the books are almost free and nice. These books are in the package:

Oh, I forgot: Some databases are also included.

Oh, I forgot: Some databases are also included.
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