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FIDE Statement on the Carlsen - Niemann polemic

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https://www.fide.com/news/1999

Last week, World Champion Magnus Carlsen resigned in a game played in an online competition against GM Hans Niemann before making his move two. The week before, he left an over-the-board tournament after losing the game to the same Mr. Niemann.

These were not FIDE events; however, as the world’s chess governing body, it is our duty to protect the integrity of the game and its image, and in view that the incident keeps escalating, we find it necessary to take a step forward.

First of all, we strongly believe that the World Champion has a moral responsibility attached to his status, since he is viewed as a global ambassador of the game. His actions impact the reputation of his colleagues, sportive results, and eventually can be damaging to our game. We strongly believe that there were better ways to handle this situation.

At the same time, we share his deep concerns about the damage that cheating brings to chess. FIDE has led the fight against cheating for many years, and we reiterate our zero-tolerance policy toward cheating in any form. Whether it is online or “over the board”, cheating remains cheating. We are strongly committed to this fight, and we have invested in forming a group of specialists to devise sophisticated preventive measures that already apply at top FIDE events.

As we have already done before, FIDE calls for reinforcing the cooperation between major online platforms, private events and top players - most of whom have already expressed their will to join efforts with FIDE.

FIDE is prepared to task its Fair Play commission with a thorough investigation of the incident, when the adequate initial proof is provided, and all parties involved disclose the information at their disposal. We are fully aware that, in some cases, uncertainty can harm players' performance. It also can be damaging to a player's reputation - that's why we insist on the anti-cheating protocols to be followed.

It is our hope that this whole situation could have a long-term positive effect, if tackled properly. We propose to launch a dedicated Panel, that would include representatives of the leading chess platforms, Grandmasters, anti-cheating experts and FIDE officers, in order to fight this risk and prevent it becomes a real plague.

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Their statement is about what I expected, since Carlsen has already basically 'Advocated' his title. There is little that they could do to him in a punitive way.
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[FIDE is prepared to task its Fair Play commission with a thorough investigation of the incident, when the adequate initial proof is provided, and all parties involved disclose the information at their disposal.]

well, if Magnus don´t make a move the case is closed.

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Re: FIDE Statement on the Carlsen - Niemann polemic

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dkappe wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:19 pm https://www.fide.com/news/1999

"The week before, he left an over-the-board tournament after losing the game to the same 'Mr. Niemann.' "

"These were not FIDE events; however, as the world’s chess governing body, it is our duty to protect the integrity of the game and its image, and in view that the 'incident keeps escalating,' we find it necessary to take a step forward."

"First of all, we strongly believe that the 'World Champion has a moral responsibility attached to his status,' since he is viewed as a global ambassador of the game. His actions impact the reputation of his colleagues, sportive results, and eventually can be damaging to our game. We strongly believe that there were better ways to handle this situation."

"At the same time, we share his deep concerns about the damage that cheating brings to chess. FIDE has led the fight against cheating for many years, and we reiterate our zero-tolerance policy toward cheating in any form. Whether it is online or “over the board”, cheating remains cheating. We are strongly committed to this fight, and we have invested in forming a group of specialists to devise sophisticated preventive measures that already apply at top FIDE events."

"As we have already done before, FIDE calls for reinforcing the cooperation between major online platforms, private events and top players - most of whom have already expressed their will to join efforts with FIDE."

"FIDE is prepared to task its Fair Play commission with a thorough investigation of the incident, when the adequate initial proof is provided, and all parties involved disclose the information at their disposal. We are fully aware that, in some cases, uncertainty can harm players' performance. It also can be damaging to a player's reputation - that's why we insist on the anti-cheating protocols to be followed."

"We propose to launch a dedicated Panel, that would include representatives of the leading chess platforms, Grandmasters, anti-cheating experts and FIDE officers, in order to fight this risk and prevent it becomes a real plague."

Arkady Dvorkovich

FIDE President
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Ban him from FIDE events for 2 years.
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Gabor Szots wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:54 am Ban him from FIDE events for 2 years.
Who is "him" ?
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Rebel wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:06 am
Gabor Szots wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:54 am Ban him from FIDE events for 2 years.
Who is "him" ?
Carlsen.
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Gabor Szots wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:40 am
Rebel wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:06 am
Gabor Szots wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:54 am Ban him from FIDE events for 2 years.
Who is "him" ?
Carlsen.
On what grounds would they 'Ban' him? He already advocated' his title before any of this even happened. So, so much for the "World Champion has a moral responsibility" theory of theirs. You cannot ban a player for withdrawing from a event. The current event is not even a FIDE event, it's a private one, and he did play that game. Remember he resigned on the 2nd move. On a side note, who would have thought the honorable game of chess would ever need security in the 1st place.

PS: I think if they did ban Carlsen, that Chess.com would become the new governing body that would compete with FIDE.
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FIDE's views on Carlsen should be taken with a grain of salt. They have an open fight going on after FIDE sent ultimatum by a certain date and Carlsen decided to not defend his WC title.

Statement looks bit biased to anyone reading it, and their cheat detection system looks like an open advertisement designed to impress the public.
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Re: FIDE Statement on the Carlsen - Niemann polemic

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/24/sport/fi ... index.html

Nothing new here...but being on CNN isn't an everyday thing for chess.