Carlsen withdrawal after loss to Niemann

[lkaufman]

Is this what you call cheating by losing to a lower rated player rated about 40 rating lower than him, therefore, GM Hans only cheat when he play versus Magnus Carlsen or he just happened to play better than Carlsen in that particular game ? Here is the analysis and interview

I'm pretty sure that no one is cheating in this current U.S. Championship, the anti-cheat measures are quite strong. I'm not saying it's impossible to cheat, only that the cost and risk of detection would make it extremely unlikely. It's also pretty unlikely that anyone cheated in the previous St. Louis event once the delay was introduced in the fourth round. Unfortunately this doesn't tell us anything about whether cheating occurred earlier in that event or in previous OTB events without a delay in broadcasting. Anyone trying to determine whether cheating has occurred should separate games played with delay in broadcast (or no broadcast) from games broadcast without delay, and make comparisons of results and/or move quality based on engines. So far in the 13 games played in those events with the delay, Niemann's results have been pretty far below his rating, though 13 games isn't a big sample. Let's see how it looks at the end of the tournament.

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[mclane]

Without computer Niemann is reduced to his real strength.

[Henk]

Yes give him a computer. We want to see more computer chess. Especially against top grand masters.

[Chessqueen]

Yes give him a computer. We want to see more computer chess. Especially against top grand masters.

I agree with you, since we computer enthusiasts always knew that the Top 20 engines could beat Carlsen, but we did NOT really knew how bad an engine can beat Carlsen, and in how many moves, or how many moves can Carlsen last, therefore, GM Hans did us all a BIG favor and to himself as well, until he really get caught. What I like about all this is that we can get to see Carlsen playing against Top engines without Carlsen getting pay Millions $$$$$$ like Kasparov against Deep Blue

NOTE: Very soon it will be reveal that Elon Musk paid Money to GM Hans to see how bad a top engine can crush Carlsen

[Alexander Schmidt]

Is this what you call cheating by losing to a lower rated player rated about 40 rating lower than him

I could return the question: Is this what you call genius?

No one never ever said Niemann is cheating always and everywhere.

[Alexander Schmidt]

I'm pretty sure that no one is cheating in this current U.S. Championship, the anti-cheat measures are quite strong.

I as well don't think anyone is cheating there, right now the risk to get caught is too high. But I guess we have to prepare cheaters who are able to sidestep the measures.

Time delay is a good thing, but we remember Ivanov who brought his computer to the board. Would the detector in St. Louis detect a hidden computer in the shoe? At the Airport security check it is enough to put a hand over the belt-buckle to hide it from the detector. Do we have to prepare complete body-scans for the players? What about upcoming computer technologies, smaller, maybe under the skin...?

I think a self cleaning system under the GM's is the only real option, and that would include: Zero tolerance to (online) cheaters.

[chrisw]

Is this what you call cheating by losing to a lower rated player rated about 40 rating lower than him, therefore, GM Hans only cheat when he play versus Magnus Carlsen or he just happened to play better than Carlsen in that particular game ? Here is the analysis and interview

I'm pretty sure that no one is cheating in this current U.S. Championship, the anti-cheat measures are quite strong. I'm not saying it's impossible to cheat, only that the cost and risk of detection would make it extremely unlikely. It's also pretty unlikely that anyone cheated in the previous St. Louis event once the delay was introduced in the fourth round. Unfortunately this doesn't tell us anything about whether cheating occurred earlier in that event or in previous OTB events without a delay in broadcasting. Anyone trying to determine whether cheating has occurred should separate games played with delay in broadcast (or no broadcast) from games broadcast without delay, and make comparisons of results and/or move quality based on engines. So far in the 13 games played in those events with the delay, Niemann's results have been pretty far below his rating, though 13 games isn't a big sample. Let's see how it looks at the end of the tournament.

Please remove the extreme psychological pressure/disturbance factor from your little experiment and re-present the innuendo-ed conclusion.

[CornfedForever]

https://www.spiegel.de/international/wo ... 3c89fb28e2

Another (better I think) interview with Dlugy on this whole thing.

[Chessqueen]

https://www.spiegel.de/international/wo ... 3c89fb28e2

Another (better I think) interview with Dlugy on this whole thing.

GM Aronian playing the fried liver attack against GM Hans, hope that Niemann is using an engine, if NOT he will lose very quickly
Here GM Finegold explain the Fried Liver Attack in detail ==>
Here is the Advance Fried Liver Attack ==>