Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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OK sss but still :) .
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Re: Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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Jouni wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 am OK sss but still :) .
Bad Leela-ratio is the reason IMHO: Lc0 is running (around) as fast as in TCEC in the CCC (60-70 KN/s, same net-size (T78)), but the CPU-engines are running more than 2x faster here in CCC, than in TCEC...
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Re: Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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pohl4711 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:54 am
Jouni wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 am OK sss but still :) .
Bad Leela-ratio is the reason IMHO: Lc0 is running (around) as fast as in TCEC in the CCC (60-70 KN/s, same net-size (T78)), but the CPU-engines are running more than 2x faster here in CCC, than in TCEC...
Or reasonable leela-ratio. :D Still, this has been the ratio at CCC for a while. Leela has been in the top 3 in all that time. SSS, it’s true. Time will tell.
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Re: Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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Yes CPU speed is nice - Rubichess has in some endgames 680 Mnps!
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Re: Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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Stoofvlees slowly dropped down the table as AB engines caught up and passed it. I thought MCGS and the new net architectures would have saved leela, at least for a while.

It would be a shame if the leading MCTS engine started to fall behind. Nothing plays quite like leela.
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Re: Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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How did it end? Where is CCC archive?
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Re: Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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OK found it: Lc0 32,5/54 and Ethereal 31.
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In semifinals Lc0 is now unbeaten! SF has 2 losses. New Lc0 version is stronger?
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Re: Ethereal is ahead of Lc0 in CCC!

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But in TCEC Lc0 seems to lose most games with black. I am really confused now! We need 1000 games match SF - Lc0 with neutral book :) .
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