Chessbase 17 - November 23 Release Date

[CornfedForever]

I see the "Deep Analysis" function in CB 17 crashes without even operating.

Surely they could have fixed this by now.

I am not a technician, but I check Deep Analysis with a position I was just looking into - haven't used Deep Analysis is rather a long time - and just 7 min in, but it is working perfectly fine, no crashing.

If you can elucidate on where your crash is happening, I can try to duplicate it.

[carldaman]

Is Deep Analysis still self-erasing? That was the big knock against the feature and rightly so.

I've decided to wait till spring to buy it. Too many bugs can be expected right after a major release,
and the early buyer ends up being a beta-tester for CB.

[CornfedForever]

Is Deep Analysis still self-erasing? That was the big knock against the feature and rightly so.

I do not know what you mean by "self-erasing". The manual does not seem to address that directly. Given that it does not specifically say something has changed...I can't say. I presume you might be referring to some Aquarium function.

Here may be the relevant portion from the manual.

Variations that do not look good after a large search depth are automatically removed. This leads to an annotation with an analysis of the most important moves. This function is an improvement over Fritz's deep position analysis, because no time is specified and the variation tree is dynamically restructured as the search progresses. After the Function has been started the program calculates indefinitely and generates an analysis tree with the best moves and replies. The tree is dynamactially updated and weaker variations are removed.

The program analyses candidate moves and makes the move for further analysis as every chess player would do it himself. This generates a tree which changes from iteration to iteration. Every iteration increases the processor time.

In the notation variations are shown in grey if they do not seem good at the current depth. If a variation cannot be proved to be good at two consecutive depts it disappears from the notation, so that only the best continuations are analyzed and displayed

[Cumnor]

Seems now we have update 4 to CB17.

[CornfedForever]

Seems now we have update 4 to CB17.

Yes, nice to see a company so responsive!

Actually...I almost expect to see more updates than we saw during the lifespan of CB16. In one of the video's it was implied that some fundamental changes had been made in CB17 so that more features could be introduced in the "near future".

CB 17.2

- Delete annotations always deleted lines.
- Variation structure could not be changed.
- Clip Analysis did not work in engine window.
- Convert diagram character in pgn to [#].
- Asking for game updates didn't work sometimes.
- New databases now gets the format in title set in brackets expect for 2CBH.

CB 17.3

- new: Auto databases will now created in 2CBH format, when CBH format doesn't exist ( e.g. after converting all databases )
- error: Don't show "no team" in game list for games without teams
- error: removed some technical messages ( sometimes ) when searching for a position
- colors in engine cloud chat window
- click on notification closed program
- Converting CBH => 2CBH can merge tournaments

CB 17.4
- Clip Novelties in database updates could not be switched off.
- "Detect Sacrifices" does not unannotate game.
- Tactical Analysis 6.2 (testing&tuning). E.g. better treatment of threats with pawns
- Underline moves in engine variation which have annotations.
- Could not change the database for game updates from CBH to 2CBH in settings
- Convert CBH <=> 2CBH also transfers now settings ( e.g. random training )
- New setting "show annotations in games" could randomly be off
- Import game updates could delete player/tournament/... trees, not the data itself

[jdart]

I'm glad they're updated it, but that also means the first release of CB 17 had a bunch of bugs.

[CornfedForever]

I'm glad they're updated it, but that also means the first release of CB 17 had a bunch of bugs.

Never at a loss for an opportunity to say that while you like it a lot...that it's 'buggy'....

It's part and parcel of complex software. I can't think of any piece of chess software which is as complex as Chessbase. In this day and age of pushing product out electronically and the ability to quickly update/correct/expand upon such software...ah! nice times we live in!

I won't name the company, but I work remotely for what may be the biggest health care company in the US. Oh the software issues...and oh how long it can take to get some of them 'fixed'!

[Werewolf]

I see the "Deep Analysis" function in CB 17 crashes without even operating.

Surely they could have fixed this by now.

I am not a technician, but I check Deep Analysis with a position I was just looking into - haven't used Deep Analysis is rather a long time - and just 7 min in, but it is working perfectly fine, no crashing.

If you can elucidate on where your crash is happening, I can try to duplicate it.

Upon setting up a position on the main board and pressing "Deep Analysis" the software shudders (redraws) and nothing happens.

[CornfedForever]

I see the "Deep Analysis" function in CB 17 crashes without even operating.

Surely they could have fixed this by now.

I am not a technician, but I check Deep Analysis with a position I was just looking into - haven't used Deep Analysis is rather a long time - and just 7 min in, but it is working perfectly fine, no crashing.

If you can elucidate on where your crash is happening, I can try to duplicate it.

Upon setting up a position on the main board and pressing "Deep Analysis" the software shudders (redraws) and nothing happens.

When I answered I took an existing position from an existing game. No issue.
So, I just set up a totally new position (as you appear to be doing) and hit 'Deep Analysis" Within a sec the process starts....and is working just as it should.

Perhaps there was an initial 'bug' that's been fixed? I am up-to-date.
I am running on an old laptop -
i7-4700HQ at 2.4ghz
12 gb ram
Windows 10
Some pretty weak GPU.
Latest Stockfish Development version

[Werewolf]

Is Deep Analysis still self-erasing? That was the big knock against the feature and rightly so.

Yes.

Now both "Cloud Analysis" and "Deep Analysis" erase lines. Furthermore, the manual makes it clear that Team Chessbase think this is an improvement over the Deep Analysis found in Fritz (which doesn't auto-erase).

It is deeply disturbing they cannot see this is a step backwards.