How do you deal with the energy/electricity costs and running your gear?

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How do you deal with the energy/electricity costs and running your gear?

Poll ended at Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:31 pm

I use a laptop, I'm fine.
5
16%
I lower usage to spare watt hours.
7
23%
I consider to buy energy-efficient hardware.
1
3%
I run my own power plant, e.g. solar.
3
10%
I have no issues in this regard.
15
48%
 
Total votes: 31

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Re: How do you deal with the energy/electricity costs and running your gear?

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Using an 8 core ryzen laptop that needs 33 watt and is run by solar electricity
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My wife and I both work from home, we both have multiple monitors for our computers. I have a 34" ultrawide and a 27" for my work PC and a 50" tv\monitor for my personal PC, my wife has a similar setup for her work pc. These are all on 5 days a week for at least 12 hours a day and some are on during the weekend. My son also has a PC with dual monitors that he plays videos games all night on(and I mean all night). To compensate for all this, I unscrew the tiny lightbulb in our refrigerator.
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Laptops can be a very good answer to keep costs under control. Latest Intel, AMD and Apple mobile CPUs use very little energy and give really good performance.
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...computer chess yesterday:



computer chess tomorrow:



;)

Seriously, I think Stockfish ~21 on a Raspberry Pi ~7 will be sufficient in future.

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smatovic wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:31 pm I am currently not active in developing an engine and laptop+desktop are @~200 kWh/year @33.36 eurocent/kWh, new tariffs are @~50 eurocent/kWh here, guess if we reach some day 1 euro/kWh, or if I restart programming, I have to consider some actions in this regard.

How do you deal with the energy/electricity costs and running your gear?

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Wow. I am locked in at $.11/kwh with adm fees of about $15/mo. My bills runs under $125/mo, that includes charging a Plug-in Hybrid and a full electric vehicle. I do have to use a UPS with my desktop , due to periodic electrical spikes.
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smatovic wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:31 pm I am currently not active in developing an engine and laptop+desktop are @~200 kWh/year @33.36 eurocent/kWh, new tariffs are @~50 eurocent/kWh here, guess if we reach some day 1 euro/kWh, or if I restart programming, I have to consider some actions in this regard.

How do you deal with the energy/electricity costs and running your gear?
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I feel you! and great question!

I'm currently using idle cores on the computer while it's running anyway. E.g when I do some work from home my desktop computer is often mostly idle. But just running it without any load already takes 220W (Monitors included) and running it with a chess-workload is 270W. So I fire up some engine matches and it's just an extra 50W.

Also gas is not much cheaper per kW/h then electricity and I'm more focused on saving gas atm. It's damn cold in the room where my desk is and I'm sitting there huddled in blankets. So when I want to justify keeping the computer running with chess I bill it as "electrical heating with benefits" ;)

Last but not least I'm going to gift myself a Raspberry Pi 400 for christmas that is running on about ~5W only. I plan to keep it online at all time to run lichess bots on it.
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Post by Ozymandias »

I didn't see the poll.

I would've voted "I lower usage to spare watt hours", with the addition: only when the price is below 0.10 €/kWh for a sufficient number of hours (it seldom happens).
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Got an raise today, 42,03 eurocent/kWh, my brother is already at 60,-....
lithander wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:31 pm ...
Hehe, I invested in some decent sheep's wool pullovers ;) keep it at 16°C room temperature atm.
lithander wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:31 pm [---]
Last but not least I'm going to gift myself a Raspberry Pi 400 for christmas that is running on about ~5W only. I plan to keep it online at all time to run lichess bots on it.
Raspberry Pi - seriously, someone should consider to open up an Raspberry Pi rating list, just one Pi running 24/7 engines-engine games, or alike.

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I simply pay my Electrical Bills, by the way GM Wesley So is finally getting married tomorrow, WOW I thought he was Gay :mrgreen:
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smatovic wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:31 pm I am currently not active in developing an engine and laptop+desktop are @~200 kWh/year @33.36 eurocent/kWh, new tariffs are @~50 eurocent/kWh here, guess if we reach some day 1 euro/kWh, or if I restart programming, I have to consider some actions in this regard.

How do you deal with the energy/electricity costs and running your gear?

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