Modern Times wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:18 am
I use Ryzen Master on my Zen3 5900X. It is incredibly easy, you don't actually need an ECO setting although it would be clearer. I change just one number - the PPT - down to 105W from 142W and that is it. Takes just seconds. No inconvenience at all. So on a 12 core workload, that stops the CPU from drawing lots of extra voltage for diminishing returns, and results in a quieter, cooler machine.
Zen 4 carried over Zen 3's propensity for pushing the voltage to increase performance but goes much further it seems. You can achieve an ECO mode to your liking by just by altering one number in Ryzen Master.
Thanks for the reply!
I am not sure it is so simple using Ryzen Mater for the 7950x though. See link below. It looks using it will take the cores to the lowly 65 W only...no option to go to the 'mid-range' Eco. The midrange wattage seems to get one 80% of the full goodness of multi-threading, but the lower would drop too much to be particularly desireable.
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:43 am
I am not sure it is so simple using Ryzen Mater for the 7950x though. See link below. It looks using it will take the cores to the lowly 65 W only...no option to go to the 'mid-range' Eco. The midrange wattage seems to get one 80% of the full goodness of multi-threading, but the lower would drop too much to be particularly desireable.
In Ryzen Master, in advanced view, I believe the following settings (see image link below) for 7950X will give you 105W "semi-eco" mode. I'm not an expert on this though.
(PPT / TDC / EDC numbers are from https://www.pcworld.com/article/1352253 ... -7000.html )
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:43 am
I am not sure it is so simple using Ryzen Mater for the 7950x though. See link below. It looks using it will take the cores to the lowly 65 W only...no option to go to the 'mid-range' Eco. The midrange wattage seems to get one 80% of the full goodness of multi-threading, but the lower would drop too much to be particularly desireable.
In Ryzen Master, in advanced view, I believe the following settings (see image link below) for 7950X will give you 105W "semi-eco" mode. I'm not an expert on this though.
(PPT / TDC / EDC numbers are from https://www.pcworld.com/article/1352253 ... -7000.html )
Right, but not using Ryzen Master. You actually have to your BIOS and tweak it...every time I think so that's not ideal. "This is for advanced users only, so beware—anytime you tinker with your BIOS settings, there are many things that can go wrong. (Especially with a new platform that may have some gremlins in the software this early, so do so at your own risk and tread carefully."
And if someone was wanting to run this at 65W (except for 'gaming) regularly, it could be argued that they should probably just get a different processor.
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:44 pm
Right, but not using Ryzen Master. You actually have to your BIOS and tweak it...every time I think so that's not ideal. "This is for advanced users only, so beware—anytime you tinker with your BIOS settings, there are many things that can go wrong. (Especially with a new platform that may have some gremlins in the software this early, so do so at your own risk and tread carefully."
And if someone was wanting to run this at 65W (except for 'gaming) regularly, it could be argued that they should probably just get a different processor.
Just making sure, did you see the imgur link I posted? That is using Ryzen Master (not bios) to use the 105 W settings. I posted that because I thought maybe you didn't want to change bios settings. However it is not quite as simple as pressing an "eco" button, you need to use advanced view and change a profile to use "precision boost overdrive" as shown in the screenshot.
A useful test would be to make first with 16 threads, and the second test using 32 threads.
This way you have a better understanding if those hyperthreading cores are helping or not.
I've reasons to believe AMD changes this from generation to the next.
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:44 pm
Right, but not using Ryzen Master. You actually have to your BIOS and tweak it...every time I think so that's not ideal. "This is for advanced users only, so beware—anytime you tinker with your BIOS settings, there are many things that can go wrong. (Especially with a new platform that may have some gremlins in the software this early, so do so at your own risk and tread carefully."
And if someone was wanting to run this at 65W (except for 'gaming) regularly, it could be argued that they should probably just get a different processor.
Just making sure, did you see the imgur link I posted? That is using Ryzen Master (not bios) to use the 105 W settings. I posted that because I thought maybe you didn't want to change bios settings. However it is not quite as simple as pressing an "eco" button, you need to use advanced view and change a profile to use "precision boost overdrive" as shown in the screenshot.
Well, maybe I should have looked at it more. So, this is something you have already done?
A 'manual mode' version of eco mode...that can be saved for regular usage?
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:17 am
Well, maybe I should have looked at it more. So, this is something you have already done?
A 'manual mode' version of eco mode...that can be saved for regular usage?
I have tried this in Ryzen Master, and it seems to work fine. It can be saved in Ryzen Master (advanced view) as one of the saved profiles.
So at least it seems to be a way to try out the 105 W settings.
But I'm not sure if Ryzen Master has a way to auto-apply the saved profile on Windows start-up, so if you use this method, you may need to run Ryzen Master and select the profile and click "apply" every time you boot up Windows.
I ended up saving the settings in my bios, so my PC always boots up with the 105 W settings. I suppose making bios changes may be more dangerous, but at least it was just a one-time thing.
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:44 pm
Right, but not using Ryzen Master. You actually have to your BIOS and tweak it...every time I think so that's not ideal. "This is for advanced users only, so beware—anytime you tinker with your BIOS settings, there are many things that can go wrong. (Especially with a new platform that may have some gremlins in the software this early, so do so at your own risk and tread carefully."
And if someone was wanting to run this at 65W (except for 'gaming) regularly, it could be argued that they should probably just get a different processor.
No surprise the guy who is drooling over the new watered down Kindergarten version of the Chessbase interface can't figure out how to tweak bios settings without bricking his 'puter. Too bad they don't have a menu option button that says "make cpu faster" in a large comic sans font. You would love that
"The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions"
Abbot Bernard of Clairvaux
CornfedForever wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:44 pm
Right, but not using Ryzen Master. You actually have to your BIOS and tweak it...every time I think so that's not ideal. "This is for advanced users only, so beware—anytime you tinker with your BIOS settings, there are many things that can go wrong. (Especially with a new platform that may have some gremlins in the software this early, so do so at your own risk and tread carefully."
And if someone was wanting to run this at 65W (except for 'gaming) regularly, it could be argued that they should probably just get a different processor.
No surprise the guy who is drooling over the new watered down Kindergarten version of the Chessbase interface can't figure out how to tweak bios settings without bricking his 'puter. Too bad they don't have a menu option button that says "make cpu faster" in a large comic sans font. You would love that
Dude....you are going out of your way to track down my posts on this site and say crap like this. WHAT on earth is wrong with you? STOP F'ING TROLLING ME!!!
