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Pedantic

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Announcement: Official release of Pedantic 0.3 is now available
I am happy to announce that the first official update to Pedantic is now available. Pedantic 0.3 is a UCI engine that I have tested in both Arena and CuteChess. This release is estimated to be stronger than v0.2 by about 214 Elo which results in overall playing strength of about 2687. I am looking forward to seeing how close my estimate is to the one CCRL eventually calculates.

This version includes the following updates:
  • It is no longer mandatory to pass the argument "uci" in order to use Pedantic in a chess GUI. This should alleviate issues where GUI does not provide a method to pass this argument.
  • The option MaxThreads has been removed from Pedantic's configuration. This option (or the more standard Threads option) will be re-enabled when Pedantic supports SMP.
  • Static Null Move Pruning (Reverse Futility Pruning)
  • Internal Iterative Deepening
  • Enhanced time management (results in stronger performance)
  • Enhanced static position evaluation (2x2 king buckets, enhanced king safety and stronger center control)
  • Faster search (shorter time to depth)
  • Will now used PEXT/PDEP instructions to enhance move generation if available on the user's system.
Download Pedantic 0.3.
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Re: Pedantic

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[fen]7k/8/8/8/8/8/1K6/R7 w - - 0 18[/fen]


Pedantic:


8/14 00:00,014 5k 388k +7,90 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4
9/15 00:00,021 9k 444k +8,00 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f4
10/16 00:00,034 16k 473k +8,00 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h5
11/18 00:00,054 27k 500k +8,10 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4
12/20 00:00,082 42k 518k +8,20 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5g5 Kh3h2
13/20 00:00,127 65k 516k +8,20 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5g5 Kh3h2 Tg1d1
14/20 00:00,191 96k 501k +8,30 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4 Kh3h2 Tg1g3 Kh2h1
15/22 00:00,289 144k 498k +8,30 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h6 Ke4f5 Kh6h7 Tg1g6 Kh7h8 Kf5f4 Kh8h7 Kf4g5
16/24 00:00,396 191k 483k +8,40 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h6 Ke4f5 Kh6h7 Tg1g6 Kh7h8 Kf5f4 Kh8h7 Kf4g5 Kh7h8
17/26 00:00,551 261k 473k +8,40 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4 Kh3h2 Tg1g3 Kh2h1 Kf4f3 Kh1h2 Kf3f2
18/27 00:01,093 491k 449k +8,50 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4 Kh3h2 Tg1g3 Kh2h1 Kf4f3 Kh1h2 Kf3f2 Kh2h1
19/24 01:52,473 109.781k 976k +M8 Ta1a5 Kh8g7 Ta5f5 Kg7h6 Kb2a2 Kh6h7 Tf5f8
20/24 02:12,818 128.545k 968k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+
21/21 02:25,537 139.526k 959k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+
22/22 02:50,590 159.977k 938k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+
23/23 04:14,387 227.825k 896k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+

The program shows us a self-mate for black?
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Re: Pedantic

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FEN: 7k/6p1/8/8/8/8/1K6/R7 w - - 0 18


Pedantic:


8/14 00:00,226 7k 31k +6,90 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Ta1g1 Kh7g8 Tg1f1 g7g6 Kc3d4 g6g5
9/16 00:00,283 14k 51k +6,70 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Ta1g1 Kh7g8 Kc3d4 Kg8f7 Kd4e5 g7g6 Ke5f4
10/18 00:00,403 28k 70k +7,10 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1f1+ Kf7g6 Tf1g1+ Kg6f7 Ke5f5 Kf7e7
11/19 00:00,478 42k 89k +7,10 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1f1+ Kf7g6 Tf1g1+ Kg6f7 Ke5f5 Kf7e7 Tg1xg7+ Ke7d6
12/22 00:00,567 74k 131k +7,20 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1f1+ Kf7g6 Tf1g1+ Kg6f7 Ke5f5 Kf7e7 Tg1xg7+ Ke7d6 Kf5f6
13/22 00:00,679 114k 168k +7,20 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1f1+ Kf7g6 Tf1g1+ Kg6f7 Ke5f5 Kf7e7 Tg1xg7+ Ke7d6 Tg7g6+ Kd6c5 Kf5e5
14/22 00:00,829 188k 226k +7,40 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a6 Kf7f8 Ke5e6 Kf8g8 Ke6e7 Kg8h7 Ke7f7 g7g5
15/24 00:00,972 275k 283k +7,70 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6d5 Ke7f7
16/26 00:01,190 415k 349k +7,80 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6d5 Ke7f7 Ke5f5
17/27 00:01,499 611k 408k +7,80 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6d5 Ke7f7 Td5d7+ Kf7g6 Ke5e6
18/28 00:01,926 867k 450k +7,80 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6d4 Ke7f7 Td4g4 Kf7e7 Tg4g7+ Ke7d8
19/30 00:02,643 1.299k 492k +8,00 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6d4 Ke7f7 Td4g4 Kf7e7 Tg4g7+ Ke7d8 Ke5d6
20/31 00:03,506 1.785k 509k +8,00 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6d4 Ke7f7 Td4g4 Kf7e7 Tg4g7+ Ke7d8 Ke5d5 Kd8c8
21/33 00:04,567 2.334k 511k +8,00 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6d4 Ke7f7 Td4g4 Kf7e7 Tg4g7+ Ke7d8 Ke5d5 Kd8e8 Kd5e6
22/34 00:06,036 3.111k 515k +8,30 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6e6+ Ke7d7 Ke5f6 Kd7c7 Kf6e7 Kc7c8 Te6c6+ Kc8b7 Ke7d7 Kb7b8 Tc6c5
23/35 00:07,595 3.901k 514k +8,40 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6e6+ Ke7d7 Ke5f6 Kd7c7 Kf6e7 Kc7c8 Ke7d6 Kc8b7 Kd6d7 Kb7a7 Kd7c7
24/35 00:09,274 4.704k 507k +8,40 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6e6+ Ke7d7 Ke5f6 Kd7c7 Kf6e7 Kc7c8 Ke7d6 Kc8b7 Kd6d7 Kb7a8 Kd7c7 Ka8a7
25/36 00:13,144 6.572k 500k +8,40 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6e6+ Ke7d7 Ke5f6 Kd7c7 Kf6e7 Kc7c8 Ke7d6 Kc8b7 Kd6d7 Kb7a8 Kd7c7 Ka8a7 Te6e1
26/37 00:15,998 7.811k 488k +8,50 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6e6+ Ke7d7 Ke5f6 Kd7c7 Kf6e7 Kc7c8 Ke7d6 Kc8b7 Kd6d7 Kb7b8 Te6b6+ Kb8a8 Kd7c7 Ka8a7 Tb6e6
27/36 00:20,899 9.822k 470k +8,50 Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1g1 g7g6 Tg1g2 Kf7e7 Tg2xg6 Ke7d7 Tg6d6+ Kd7e7 Td6e6+ Ke7d7 Ke5f6 Kd7c7 Kf6e7 Kc7c8 Ke7d6 Kc8b7 Kd6d7 Kb7b8 Te6b6+ Kb8a8 Kd7c7 Ka8a7 Tb6e6 Ka7a8

No further output from the engine!

Bester Zug: Kb2-c3, Wert: +8,50, Tiefe: 28/36, Dauer: 1:55:48,729, 9.828.806 Knoten, 469.980 K/sek
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Re: Pedantic

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Researching these issues now.
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Re: Pedantic

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chessica wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:59 am [fen]7k/8/8/8/8/8/1K6/R7 w - - 0 18[/fen]


Pedantic:


8/14 00:00,014 5k 388k +7,90 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4
9/15 00:00,021 9k 444k +8,00 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f4
10/16 00:00,034 16k 473k +8,00 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h5
11/18 00:00,054 27k 500k +8,10 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4
12/20 00:00,082 42k 518k +8,20 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5g5 Kh3h2
13/20 00:00,127 65k 516k +8,20 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5g5 Kh3h2 Tg1d1
14/20 00:00,191 96k 501k +8,30 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4 Kh3h2 Tg1g3 Kh2h1
15/22 00:00,289 144k 498k +8,30 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h6 Ke4f5 Kh6h7 Tg1g6 Kh7h8 Kf5f4 Kh8h7 Kf4g5
16/24 00:00,396 191k 483k +8,40 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h6 Ke4f5 Kh6h7 Tg1g6 Kh7h8 Kf5f4 Kh8h7 Kf4g5 Kh7h8
17/26 00:00,551 261k 473k +8,40 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4 Kh3h2 Tg1g3 Kh2h1 Kf4f3 Kh1h2 Kf3f2
18/27 00:01,093 491k 449k +8,50 Ta1g1 Kh8h7 Kb2c3 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 Kh5h4 Ke4f5 Kh4h3 Kf5f4 Kh3h2 Tg1g3 Kh2h1 Kf4f3 Kh1h2 Kf3f2 Kh2h1
19/24 01:52,473 109.781k 976k +M8 Ta1a5 Kh8g7 Ta5f5 Kg7h6 Kb2a2 Kh6h7 Tf5f8
20/24 02:12,818 128.545k 968k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+
21/21 02:25,537 139.526k 959k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+
22/22 02:50,590 159.977k 938k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+
23/23 04:14,387 227.825k 896k +M7 Ta1a8+ Kh8g7 Kb2c2 Kg7g6 Kc2d2 Kg6h5 Kd2e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f4 Kh4h5 Ta8a6 Kh5h4 Ta6h6+

The program shows us a self-mate for black?
From the UCI documentation:
* score
* cp <x>
the score from the engine's point of view in centipawns.
* mate <y>
mate in y moves, not plies.
If the engine is getting mated use negative values for y.


Showing a +M8 at depth 19 indicates that black is being checkmated, not white. Your FEN shows it is white's move. Am I missing something?
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Re: Pedantic

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chessica wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:04 pm FEN: 7k/6p1/8/8/8/8/1K6/R7 w - - 0 18


Pedantic:
...snip...
No further output from the engine!

Bester Zug: Kb2-c3, Wert: +8,50, Tiefe: 28/36, Dauer: 1:55:48,729, 9.828.806 Knoten, 469.980 K/sek
Did this position happen while you were in the middle of a game or were you analyzing the position? If from a game, to you have the PGN? I'm not producing the same output starting from your given FEN.
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Re: Pedantic

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I use Arena, setup position, then analyse

#14 only move Kc3 solves the mate in 14

[fen]7k/6p1/8/8/8/8/1K6/R7 w - - 0 18[/fen]


Hello, here I have brought a good example of how such an analysis should look. Determined and successfully.

Code: Select all

[b][u]Leorik-2.4:[/u][/b]

 8	00:00,007	 15k	2.091k	+8,54	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Ta1a7 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 g7g5 Kd4d5 g5g4
 9	00:00,013	 28k	2.152k	+8,99	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Ta1a7 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 g7g5 Kd4d5 g5g4 Kd5e6
 10	00:00,020	 42k	2.103k	+8,61	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Ta1g1 Kh7h6 Kc3d4 g7g5 Kd4e5 Kh6g6 Ke5e6 Kg6h5
 11	00:00,038	 86k	2.272k	+9,33	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 g7g5 Kd4e5 Kh7g6 Ta1a4 Kg6h5 Ke5f5 Kh5h6 Ta4a7
 12	00:00,069	 142k	2.054k	+10,30	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6h6 Ta1g1 Kh6h7 Ke5f5 Kh7g8 Kf5g6 Kg8f8
 13	00:00,118	 264k	2.238k	+10,40	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6g5 Ta1g1+ Kg5h6 Ke5f5 Kh6h7 Tg1g6 Kh7g8 Tg6e6
 14	00:00,199	 400k	2.008k	+10,83	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6g6 Ta1g1+ Kg6f7 Ke5f5 Kf7g8 Kf5g6 Kg8f8 Tg1g5 Kf8g8
 15	00:00,361	 808k	2.238k	+11,12	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Ta1g1 Kh6h7 Kd4e5 Kh7g8 Ke5f5 Kg8h7 Tg1h1+ Kh7g8 Kf5g6 Kg8f8 Th1h8+
 16	00:00,528	 1.062k	2.011k	+11,32	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Ta1g1 g7g6 Kd4e5 Kh6h5 Ke5f6 g6g5 Tg1xg5+ Kh5h4 Tg5g7 Kh4h3 Kf6f7 Kh3h2
 17	00:00,760	 1.582k	2.082k	+11,46	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6g6 Ta1f1 Kg6h6 Ke5f5 g7g6+ Kf5f6 Kh6h5 Tf1g1 g6g5 Tg1xg5+ Kh5h4 Tg5g7
 18	00:01,202	 2.262k	1.882k	+11,32	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6h5 Ta1g1 g7g6 Ke5f6 Kh5h4 Tg1xg6 Kh4h3 Tg6g1 Kh3h2 Tg1g7 Kh2h1 Kf6f7 Kh1h2
 19	00:01,678	 3.271k	1.949k	+11,42	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6h5 Ta1g1 g7g6 Ke5f6 Kh5h4 Tg1xg6 Kh4h3 Tg6g1 Kh3h2 Tg1g7 Kh2h1 Tg7g5 Kh1h2 Tg5f5
 20	00:02,983	 5.250k	1.760k	+11,23	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6g5 Ta1g1+ Kg5h4 Tg1xg7 Kh4h3 Ke5f6 Kh3h2 Kf6f5 Kh2h3 Kf5e5 Kh3h2 Ke5f6 Kh2h1 Kf6f7 Kh1h2
 21	00:04,408	 8.075k	1.832k	+11,64	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6h5 Ke5f4 g7g5+ Kf4g3 Kh5g6 Kg3g4 Kg6f6 Ta1a5 Kf6e6 Kg4xg5 Ke6e7 Kg5f5 Ke7d7 Ta5a6 Kd7e7 Kf5g6
 22	00:05,555	 9.355k	1.684k	+11,68	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6h5 Ke5f4 g7g5+ Kf4g3 Kh5g6 Kg3g4 Kg6f6 Ta1a5 Kf6e6 Kg4xg5 Ke6e7 Ta5e5+ Ke7d7 Kg5f5 Kd7d6 Kf5f6 Kd6c6
 23	00:07,009	 11.693k	1.668k	+11,79	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7h6 Kd4e5 Kh6h5 Ke5f4 g7g5+ Kf4g3 Kh5g6 Kg3g4 Kg6f6 Ta1a5 Kf6e6 Kg4xg5 Ke6e7 Ta5e5+ Ke7d7 Kg5f5 Kd7c7 Kf5e6 Kc7c6 Te5f5
 24	00:18,082	 24.720k	1.367k	+12,95	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a6 Kf7e7 Ta6a7+ Ke7f8 Ke5f5 Kf8g8 Ta7e7 Kg8f8 Te7e6 Kf8f7 Te6e1 g7g6+ Kf5g5 Kf7g7 Te1e7+ Kg7f8 Te7e2 Kf8f7
 25	00:22,852	 31.923k	1.397k	+13,23	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a7+ Kf7g6 Ta7b7 Kg6h7 Tb7b2 Kh7g6 Tb2e2 Kg6f7 Ke5f5 g7g5 Kf5xg5 Kf7g7 Te2e7+ Kg7g8 Kg5f5 Kg8f8 Kf5f6 Kf8g8 Te7d7
 26	00:43,557	 51.210k	1.176k	+13,42	Kb2c3 g7g6 Kc3d4 Kh8g7 Ta1f1 Kg7g8 Kd4e5 Kg8g7 Ke5e6 g6g5 Ke6f5 Kg7f7 Tf1d1 g5g4 Kf5xg4 Kf7e8 Kg4f5 Ke8e7 Kf5e5 Ke7f7 Ke5f4 Kf7e6 Td1d3 Ke6f6 Td3d6+ Kf6g7
 27	01:12,182	 88.716k	1.229k	+M17	Kb2c3 g7g5 Kc3d4 Kh8g7 Ta1f1 Kg7g6 Kd4e5 g5g4 Tf1g1 Kg6g5 Tg1g3 Kg5g6 Tg3xg4+ Kg6f7 Ke5f5 Kf7e7 Tg4d4 Ke7f7 Td4d6 Kf7e7 Td6d1 Ke7f7 Td1d6 Kf7e7 Td6d1 Ke7f7 Td1d6
 28	01:33,886	 105.931k	1.128k	+M19	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a7+ Kf7g6 Ta7d7 Kg6h6 Ke5f5 g7g6+ Kf5g4 g6g5 Td7d6+ Kh6g7 Kg4xg5 Kg7f7 Kg5f5 Kf7e7 Kf5e5 Ke7f7 Ke5f5 Kf7e7 Kf5e5 Ke7f7 Ke5f5 Kf7e7
 29	01:43,731	 116.714k	1.125k	+M19	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a7+ Kf7g6 Ta7d7 Kg6h6 Ke5f5 g7g6+ Kf5g4 g6g5 Td7d6+ Kh6g7 Kg4xg5 Kg7f7 Kg5f5 Kf7e7 Kf5e5 Ke7f7 Ke5f5 Kf7g7 Td6d7+ Kg7f8 Kf5f6 Kf8g8 Td7d8+
 30	01:55,221	 124.067k	1.077k	+M17	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a7+ Kf7g6 Ta7d7 Kg6h6 Ke5f5 g7g6+ Kf5g4 g6g5 Td7d6+ Kh6g7 Kg4xg5 Kg7f7 Kg5f5 Kf7e7 Td6d1 Ke7f7 Td1d7+ Kf7e8 Kf5e6 Ke8f8 Ke6f6 Kf8g8 Td7d8+ Kg8h7
 31	02:12,089	 139.401k	1.055k	+M14	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a7+ Kf7g6 Ta7e7 Kg6h6 Ke5f5 g7g6+ Kf5g4 g6g5 Te7e6+ Kh6g7 Kg4xg5 Kg7f7 Te6e5 Kf7g7 Te5f5 Kg7h7 Kg5f6 Kh7h8 Kf6f7 Kh8h7 Tf5h5+
 32	02:25,229	 146.432k	1.008k	+M14	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a7+ Kf7g6 Ta7e7 Kg6h6 Ke5f5 g7g6+ Kf5g4 g6g5 Te7e6+ Kh6g7 Kg4xg5 Kg7f7 Te6e5 Kf7g7 Te5f5 Kg7h7 Kg5f6 Kh7h8 Kf6f7 Kh8h7 Tf5h5+
 33	02:39,201	 156.419k	983k	+M14	Kb2c3 Kh8h7 Kc3d4 Kh7g6 Kd4e5 Kg6f7 Ta1a7+ Kf7g6 Ta7e7 Kg6h6 Ke5f5 g7g6+ Kf5g4 g6g5 Te7e6+ Kh6g7 Kg4xg5 Kg7f7 Te6e5 Kf7g7 Te5f5 Kg7h7 Kg5f6 Kh7h8 Kf6f7 Kh8h7 Tf5h5+

Bester Zug: Kb2-c3, Wert: +Matt in 14, Tiefe: 33, Dauer: 02:42,307, 156.418.737 Knoten, 982.523 K/sek
adnoh
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Full name: Charles Wong

Re: Pedantic

Post by adnoh »

I am getting some unexpected results in a 500 game match between Pedantic 0.30 and 0.2.1.

Cutechess with time control of 10+0.1 seconds and all adjudication turned off and no opening book used. I have the PGN if it may be useful.

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Score of Pedantic 0.3.0 vs Pedantic 0.2.1: 187 - 232 - 81 [0.455]
...      Pedantic 0.3.0 playing White: 93 - 105 - 52  [0.476] 250
...      Pedantic 0.3.0 playing Black: 94 - 127 - 29  [0.434] 250
...      White vs Black: 220 - 199 - 81  [0.521] 500
Elo difference: -31.4 +/- 28.0, LOS: 1.4 %, DrawRatio: 16.2 %
500 of 500 games finished.

Player: Pedantic 0.3.0
   "Draw by 3-fold repetition": 13
   "Draw by fifty moves rule": 17
   "Draw by insufficient mating material": 51
   "Loss: Black mates": 105
   "Loss: White mates": 127
   "Win: Black mates": 94
   "Win: White mates": 93
Player: Pedantic 0.2.1
   "Draw by 3-fold repetition": 13
   "Draw by fifty moves rule": 17
   "Draw by insufficient mating material": 51
   "Loss: Black mates": 94
   "Loss: White mates": 93
   "Win: Black mates": 105
   "Win: White mates": 127
JoAnnP38
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Location: Clearwater, Florida USA
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Re: Pedantic

Post by JoAnnP38 »

adnoh wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:48 am I am getting some unexpected results in a 500 game match between Pedantic 0.30 and 0.2.1.

Cutechess with time control of 10+0.1 seconds and all adjudication turned off and no opening book used. I have the PGN if it may be useful.

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Score of Pedantic 0.3.0 vs Pedantic 0.2.1: 187 - 232 - 81 [0.455]
...      Pedantic 0.3.0 playing White: 93 - 105 - 52  [0.476] 250
...      Pedantic 0.3.0 playing Black: 94 - 127 - 29  [0.434] 250
...      White vs Black: 220 - 199 - 81  [0.521] 500
Elo difference: -31.4 +/- 28.0, LOS: 1.4 %, DrawRatio: 16.2 %
500 of 500 games finished.

Player: Pedantic 0.3.0
   "Draw by 3-fold repetition": 13
   "Draw by fifty moves rule": 17
   "Draw by insufficient mating material": 51
   "Loss: Black mates": 105
   "Loss: White mates": 127
   "Win: Black mates": 94
   "Win: White mates": 93
Player: Pedantic 0.2.1
   "Draw by 3-fold repetition": 13
   "Draw by fifty moves rule": 17
   "Draw by insufficient mating material": 51
   "Loss: Black mates": 94
   "Loss: White mates": 93
   "Win: Black mates": 105
   "Win: White mates": 127
What is your cpu? Also, what are your results for longer TC such as 40+0.4?
adnoh
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Re: Pedantic

Post by adnoh »

JoAnnP38 wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:30 am
adnoh wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:48 am I am getting some unexpected results in a 500 game match between Pedantic 0.30 and 0.2.1.

Cutechess with time control of 10+0.1 seconds and all adjudication turned off and no opening book used. I have the PGN if it may be useful.

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Score of Pedantic 0.3.0 vs Pedantic 0.2.1: 187 - 232 - 81 [0.455]
...      Pedantic 0.3.0 playing White: 93 - 105 - 52  [0.476] 250
...      Pedantic 0.3.0 playing Black: 94 - 127 - 29  [0.434] 250
...      White vs Black: 220 - 199 - 81  [0.521] 500
Elo difference: -31.4 +/- 28.0, LOS: 1.4 %, DrawRatio: 16.2 %
500 of 500 games finished.

Player: Pedantic 0.3.0
   "Draw by 3-fold repetition": 13
   "Draw by fifty moves rule": 17
   "Draw by insufficient mating material": 51
   "Loss: Black mates": 105
   "Loss: White mates": 127
   "Win: Black mates": 94
   "Win: White mates": 93
Player: Pedantic 0.2.1
   "Draw by 3-fold repetition": 13
   "Draw by fifty moves rule": 17
   "Draw by insufficient mating material": 51
   "Loss: Black mates": 94
   "Loss: White mates": 93
   "Win: Black mates": 105
   "Win: White mates": 127
What is your cpu?
Intel i7-12700K 16GB memory all settings for Pedantic default (other than no Own Book). Concurrent games 6 but Ponder is off so with 8 performance cores should be not an issue.