Brainlearn and Shashchess

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Eduard
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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criko wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:27 am I have to apologize to Andrea Manzo ... he gave me all support to fix the problems!!

So I give my honest apologize to Andrea Manzo!!!
And what does the solution look like? I would also like to use MCTS.
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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Hi Eduard,

Andrea and me are still investigating.
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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Hi all,

thx to Andrea Manzo for the new Brainlearn 26.1 version.
Again I apologize to him.

regrads
Chris
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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Hi.
ShashChess has a lot of new original code.
I prefer to be updated with latest official release.
Andrea
Eduard wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:08 am
amchess wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:38 pm First test: more will follow...
https://github.com/amchess/ShashChess/wiki/Matches
Hello Andrea, ShashChess 34 is not convincing on the PlayChess server. He gives more defeats than wins. I don't understand why Dimension 1536 is still implemented? Stockfish dev is already using Dimension 2560, and this network is stronger. Why should we use Dimension 1536 when there are better networks with Dimension 2560? Comparisons with Stockfish 16 (Dimension 1536) are pointless.

I also won against ShashChess 34 on the server, the hardware was roughly identical:

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"] [Site "Engine Room"] [Date "2023.10.22"] [Round "?"] [White "SolistaChess, Light 7.0 beta"] [Black "Pamuk1, ShashChess 34 HT av"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "C54"] [WhiteElo "3287"] [BlackElo "3289"] [Annotator "0.24;0.11"] [PlyCount "291"] [EventDate "2023.10.22"] [SourceTitle "playchess.com"] [TimeControl "300"] {ShashChess 34 HT avx2 nnue (18 threads): 27.7 plies; 8.076kN/s 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900H 2918MHz, (14 cores, 20 threads), Solista-TURNIER.ctg, 1024 MB} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {B 0} 3. Bc4 {B 0} Bc5 {B 0} 4. O-O {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 5. d3 {B 0} d6 {B 0} 6. c3 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 7. h3 {B 0} a6 {B 0} 8. a4 {0.24/41 32} h6 {0.11/30 21 (a5)} 9. b4 {0.28/33 2} Ba7 {0.11/26 4} 10. Nbd2 {0.33/34 0} Re8 {0.15/29 8 (Be6)} 11. Re1 {0.28/31 5} Qe7 {B 0 (Be6)} 12. Bb3 {0.29/33 11} Be6 {0.20/26 6} 13. Nc4 {0.26/33 3} Qd7 {0.18/25 0 (Qd8)} 14. Bc2 {0.29/35 4} Rad8 {0.31/27 14 (Ne7)} 15. Ne3 {0.27/35 7} Qc8 {0.22/28 0} 16. Bd2 {0.22/35 11} Ne7 {0.15/30 1} 17. d4 {0.17/39 13} Ng6 {0.09/28 4} 18. Nf1 {0.12/36 11} Bc4 {0.10/30 4} 19. Ne3 {0.10/36 7} Be6 {0.05/25 3} 20. b5 {0.12/33 5} axb5 {0.00/30 5} 21. axb5 {0.11/36 0} Bb6 {0.00/29 4} 22. Nf1 {0.09/35 0} Bc4 {0.04/34 10} 23. Ng3 {0.05/39 0} d5 {0.01/34 6 (Qd7)} 24. Bxh6 {0.06/35 2} Nxe4 {0.01/36 1} 25. Bg5 {0.25/31 2} Nxg3 {0.20/33 13} 26. Bxg6 {0.66/37 3} exd4 {0.45/30 9} 27. fxg3 {0.53/37 3} Rxe1+ {0.62/31 21} 28. Nxe1 {0.69/39 4} fxg6 {0.44/28 5} 29. Bxd8 {0.86/34 0} dxc3+ {0.45/26 6} 30. Kh2 {0.90/36 1} Qxd8 {0.40/27 1} 31. Nf3 {0.88/33 1} Bc5 {0.41/28 2} 32. Ne5 {0.85/33 0} Bxb5 {0.49/26 3} 33. Qf3 {0.81/35 3} Be8 {0.38/27 0} 34. Qxc3 {0.82/34 3} Be7 {0.42/25 3 (Bd6)} 35. Qb3 {0.80/32 3} b5 {0.55/28 18 (Qd6)} 36. Rd1 {0.86/36 15} c6 {0.39/30 0} 37. Qe3 {0.87/36 1} c5 {0.47/26 2 (Qd6)} 38. Re1 {0.82/31 4} Bd6 {0.58/26 1} 39. Qd3 {1.14/31 1} Bf8 {0.71/28 15} 40. Qd1 {1.44/36 3} b4 {0.78/27 5} 41. Qg4 {1.35/37 0} Qe7 {0.78/27 4} 42. Nf3 {1.45/41 0} Bd7 {0.93/26 1} 43. Qxg6 {1.50/37 0} Qf7 {1.33/25 9} 44. Qa6 {1.51/39 0} Qf6 {1.51/24 7 (c4)} 45. Qd3 {2.20/29 3} Qf5 {1.61/23 0} 46. Qd2 {2.40/32 9} Bd6 {1.50/23 0} 47. Ra1 {2.50/27 0} c4 {1.76/22 2 (Kf7)} 48. Qd4 {2.71/30 5} c3 {1.87/25 0 (Be7)} 49. Ra8+ {3.15/28 3} Kf7 {1.94/25 0 (Kh7)} 50. Ra6 {3.24/40 2} Qg6 {2.07/25 0} 51. Ng5+ {3.25/37 0} Qxg5 {1.75/21 1} 52. Rxd6 {3.47/40 0} c2 {2.29/25 1} 53. Rxd7+ {5.11/34 0} Ke6 {2.72/27 1 (Ke8)} 54. Rxg7 {7.81/29 3} Qxg7 {2.87/26 0} 55. Qxg7 {9.15/36 2} c1=Q {3.17/33 0} 56. Qg4+ {10.75/24 1} Ke5 {3.29/35 0 (Kf7)} 57. Qxb4 {14.25/23 3} d4 {3.32/29 0 (Qg5)} 58. Qe7+ {20.44/22 2} Kd5 {3.54/38 0} 59. Qd7+ {95.96/29 1} Ke5 {3.54/40 0} 60. Qe8+ {96.05/32 1} Kd5 {3.83/35 0} 61. Qf7+ {197.61/35 0} Kd6 {3.83/33 1 (Ke5)} 62. Qg6+ {199.45/41 22} Kd5 {4.49/30 1} 63. h4 {199.49/39 0} Qe3 {2.36/17 1} 64. h5 {199.58/39 3} d3 {2.82/34 0} 65. h6 {199.60/39 0} d2 {2.83/25 0} 66. Qh5+ {199.63/40 1} Qe5 {2.97/31 0} 67. Qg4 {199.65/37 1} Qc3 {3.04/31 0 (Kc6)} 68. h7 {199.92/37 1} Kd6 {0.97/18 0} 69. Qg8 {199.95/41 1} Ke7 {1.90/27 1 (Kc7)} 70. h8=Q {199.97/43 2} Qxh8+ {1.86/25 0} 71. Qxh8 {1/1 0} d1=Q {1.85/25 0} 72. Qc3 {8/1 0} Qh5+ {2.00/21 1} 73. Kg1 {7/1 0} Qe2 {1.98/21 0} 74. Qf3 {4/1 0} Qe1+ {2.13/23 1} 75. Kh2 {3/1 0} Ke8 {2.43/24 1} 76. g4 {16/1 0} Qh4+ {1.83/18 0} 77. Qh3 {15/1 0} Qe1 {1.71/27 0} 78. Qg3 {14/1 0} Qe7 {1.76/27 0} 79. Qf2 {9/1 0} Qe5+ {1.73/28 0} 80. g3 {7/1 0} Ke7 {1.75/34 0} 81. Qf4 {6/1 0} Qb2+ {1.76/30 0} 82. Kh3 {5/1 0} Qh8+ {1.75/32 0} 83. Kg2 {4/1 0} Qb2+ {1.77/35 0} 84. Kf3 {2/1 0} Qa1 {1.68/37 0} 85. g5 {12/1 0} Qd1+ {1.68/37 0} 86. Kg2 {11/1 0} Qe2+ {1.68/39 0} 87. Kh3 {10/1 0} Qh5+ {1.68/38 0} 88. Qh4 {7/1 0} Qg6 {1.72/35 0} 89. Qh6 {6/1 0} Qf5+ {1.72/32 0} 90. Kh4 {5/1 0} Qe4+ {1.72/26 0} 91. Kh5 {4/1 0} Qf3+ {1.89/27 0} 92. g4 {7/1 0} Qh1+ {1.93/26 0} 93. Kg6 {3/1 0} Qe4+ {2.18/25 0} 94. Kg7 {2/1 0} Qxg4 {2.25/21 0} 95. g6 {10/1 0} Qd4+ {2.42/18 0} 96. Kh7 {9/1 0} Qe4 {2.43/22 0} 97. Qg7+ {8/1 0} Kd6 {2.58/25 0} 98. Qf8+ {7/1 0} Kd7 {2.65/21 0} 99. Qf7+ {3/1 0} Kc6 {2.40/15 0} 100. Kg8 {2/1 0} Kb5 {2.71/15 0} 101. Qd7+ {1/1 0} Kb4 {1.54/16 0} 102. g7 {34/1 0} Ka3 {2.94/20 0} 103. Kf7 {33/1 0} Qf4+ {3.42/20 0} 104. Kg6 {32/1 0} Qg3+ {3.58/21 0} 105. Kf6 {31/1 0} Qh4+ {3.92/20 0} 106. Ke5 {30/1 0} Qg5+ {4.11/18 0} 107. Kd6 {29/1 0} Qf4+ {4.28/19 0} 108. Kd5 {28/0 0} Qf3+ {4.39/18 0} 109. Kc5 {27/1 0} Qc3+ {4.39/20 0} 110. Kb6 {26/1 0} Qe3+ {4.52/20 0} 111. Kc6 {25/0 0} Qc3+ {4.96/19 0} 112. Kb7 {24/1 0} Qb3+ {4.99/23 0} 113. Ka6 {23/1 0} Qg8 {4.60/16 0} 114. Ka5 {22/0 0} Ka2 {3.79/16 0} 115. Qd4 {21/1 0} Qf7 {5.00/15 1} 116. Qd2+ {20/0 0} Kb3 {4.94/16 0} 117. Qd3+ {19/0 0} Kb2 {5.19/16 0} 118. Qe2+ {18/1 0} Ka3 {5.85/15 0} 119. Qe5 {17/1 0} Qa7+ {5.89/19 0} 120. Kb5 {16/1 0} Qd7+ {30.96/18 0} 121. Kc5 {15/0 0} Qc8+ {31.68/17 1} 122. Kd5 {14/0 0} Kb4 {31.46/19 0} 123. Qd4+ {8/1 0} Kb5 {32.28/21 0} 124. Ke5 {7/1 0} Qe8+ {35.93/19 0} 125. Kf6 {6/1 0} Qc6+ {96.05/22 0} 126. Ke7 {5/1 0} Qg2 {#27/23 0} 127. Qe5+ {4/1 0} Ka4 {#21/24 0} 128. Qf4+ {3/1 0} Ka3 {#18/30 0} 129. Qf8 {2/1 0} Qb7+ {#17/30 0} 130. Ke8+ {1/0 0} Kb2 {23.92/11 0} 131. g8=Q {9/1 0} Qb8+ {#15/28 0} 132. Kf7 {8/1 0} Qb3+ {#14/38 0} 133. Kg7 {6/1 0} Qg3+ {#13/43 0} 134. Kh8 {5/1 0} Qh3+ {#12/48 0} 135. Qh7 {3/1 0} Qc3+ {#11/54 0} 136. Qhg7 {1/1 0} Kc2 {#10/38 0} 137. Qxc3+ {1/1 0} Kxc3 {#9/52 0} 138. Qc5+ {8/0 0} Kd3 {#8/50 0} 139. Kg7 {7/0 0} Ke4 {#7/67 0} 140. Kf6 {6/0 0} Kf3 {#6/32 0} 141. Qe5 {5/0 0} Kf2 {#5/44 0} 142. Kf5 {4/0 0} Kf3 {#4/245 0} 143. Qe1 {3/1 0} Kg2 {#3/245 0} 144. Kf4 {2/0 0} Kh2 {#2/245 0} 145. Kf3 {1/1 0} Kh3 {#1/245 0} 146. Qg3# {#1/0 0 (Lag: Av=0.62s, max=5.6s)} 1-0 [/pgn]
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

Post by Eduard »

Hello Andrea!

Regarding Shashchess: I accept that, but I myself will no longer use ShashChess.
Regarding Brainlearn 26.1: I saw that you implemented "MinimumThinkingTime" in Timeman, but this option is missing in the engine's UCI options. Why?
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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and the new Shash version is again buggy like hell.

Pls community do not use this sw in the future.

Manzo did no test before release ... I send him again the buggy game(s)
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

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What exactly is buggy?
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Re: Brainlearn and Shashchess

Post by criko »

engine caused an exeption :-(
I send him the game ... he told me it was Chessbase GUI error.
What a clown.