ICCF World Championship 33 Final

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55 draws so far. No wonder, when 17 SF versions playing :) . Tansel has obviously 2x AMD EPYC 7V12 ddr4 2133 256threads.
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Jouni wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:18 am 55 draws so far. No wonder, when 17 SF versions playing :) . Tansel has obviously 2x AMD EPYC 7V12 ddr4 2133 256threads.
I will not be surprised if there is going to be only one win because some player is going to blunder in copying the engine's move.

I will be surprised if all the moves are of stockfish and there are different way to draw by moves that stockfish does not suggest but stockfish does not consider as mistakes.

I believe that all players check the moves that they plan to play with stockfish.
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Uri Blass wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:17 am
Jouni wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:18 am 55 draws so far. No wonder, when 17 SF versions playing :) . Tansel has obviously 2x AMD EPYC 7V12 ddr4 2133 256threads.
I will not be surprised if there is going to be only one win because some player is going to blunder in copying the engine's move.

Or 1 player withdraws. I am currently playing in the final of the European Championship. 1 player has flagged most of his games. I had already drawn with him. Many players have been awarded the win.
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One miniature
[pgn][Event "WC33/final"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2022.11.20"] [Round "?"] [White "Ros Padilla, Javier"] [Black "Acevedo Villalba, Angel"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [WhiteElo "2404"] [BlackElo "2508"] [PlyCount "29"] [EventDate "2022.??.??"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nge2 Nd4 4. d3 e5 5. Nd5 Ne7 6. c4 b5 7. Nxd4 cxd4 8. f4 bxc4 9. dxc4 Nxd5 10. exd5 Bc5 11. Bd3 Qh4+ 12. g3 Qh3 13. Bf1 Qf5 14. Bd3 Qh3 15. Bf1 1/2-1/2 [/pgn]
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And now 9 wins. One player has quitted :) .
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Jouni wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:49 pm And now 9 wins. One player has quitted :) .
He didn't quit. GM Dronov, sadly, died on 7th December.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dronov
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There may be a problem to decide who qualify for the final in this tournament.

https://www.iccf.com/event?id=87719

All the games except one ended in a draw.

I read

"The winner and the runner-up qualify to a WCCC Final."

Even if the remaining game is a win then there is going to be a problem to decide who is the second place to qualify to a WCCC final
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Back in the 'pre-engine' days, I qualified and finished at...50% or just over in a Semi-Final ICCF WCh. Miss those days of 'mano v mano'.
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WC13/Final, World Championship 13 Final
This event is played by postal mail.
The start date was 11/1/1989.
The end date was 12/30/1998.
https://www.iccf.com/event?id=35601

Quite a tourney :)

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Hello Srdja:
smatovic wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:55 pm WC13/Final, World Championship 13 Final
This event is played by postal mail.
The start date was 11/1/1989.
The end date was 12/30/1998.
https://www.iccf.com/event?id=35601

Quite a tourney :)

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You can find fun facts on the Internet:

Slow correspondence games
3435. Slow correspondence games

Mr Daniels also mentions that a frequent entry in old editions of the Guinness Book of Records concerned a chess game, begun in the 1920s and continued for decades, in which the players, Grant and MacLennan, played a move each Christmas.

We are not aware that the game-score has ever been published, but perhaps a reader will be able to provide information. In the meantime, we note two other cases of lengthy postal games:

Firstly, a paragraph from page 215 of CHESS, 17 May 1957:
'H. Jarvis, Croydon, played postal chess from 1931 (when he went on holiday to Germany) onwards, with Eberhardt Wilhelm, secretary of the international correspondence chess organization. When the war started, it was Mr Jarvis to move. Naturally the game was abruptly interrupted, and after the war ended it was two years before normal postal services were resumed. Wilhelm thereupon wrote and pointed out that it had been Mr Jarvis' move for eight years and said that if he did not reply by return he would claim the game. Mr Jarvis had the move ready; he despatched a move at once and the games were duly concluded. So the one move took eight years. "Is this a record" asks Mr Jarvis "for the longest time ever taken to play a chess move?"'
Secondly, a game which took about 16 years and was widely published in the mid-1870s:

Karl Brenzinger — Francis Eugene Brenzinger
Correspondence, 1859 — 18 March 1875
Two Knights' Defence

1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Nf6 4 Ng5 d5 5 exd5 Na5 6 Qe2 Nxc4 7 Qxc4 Bd6 8 d3 O-O 9 Nc3 h6 10 Nge4 Kh8 11 O-O Nh5 12 d4 f5 13 Nxd6 cxd6 14 dxe5 dxe5 15 Qe2 Qe8 16 Nb5 f4 17 f3 Ng3 18 hxg3 fxg3 19 f4 Bd7 20 Nd6 Qe7 21 Ne4 Qh4 22 Nxg3 Qxg3 23 Rf3 Bg4 24 Rxg3 Bxe2 25 Re3 Bc4 26 d6 Rxf4 27 Re1 Rd4 28 b3 Bb5 29 c4 Bc6 30 c5 Rg4 31 Re2 Rf8 32 Be3 Kg8 33 a4 Rb4 34 Rb2 Kf7 35 Bd2 Rg4 36 Bc3 Ke6 37 b4 Rf3

[d]8/pp4p1/2bPk2p/2P1p3/PP4r1/2B2r2/1R4P1/R5K1 w - - 1 38

38 Bxe5 Kxe5 39 b5 Be4 40 Rd2 Rfg3 41 Raa2 Bxg2 42 d7 Bc6+ 43 Kh2 Bxd7 44 Rxd7 Rg6 45 Re2+ Kf6 46 Rde7 (This mistake was attributed to impatience after Black took seven months over his 45th move.) 46...Rg2+ 47 Rxg2 Rxg2+ 48 Kxg2 Kxe7 49 Kf3 h5 50 a5 Kd7 51 White resigns.

[pgn][Event "Correspondence"] [White "Karl Brenzinger"] [Black "Francis Eugene Brenzinger"] [PlyCount "100"] [Result "0-1"] 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Na5 6. Qe2 Nxc4 7. Qxc4 Bd6 8. d3 O-O 9. Nc3 h6 10. Nge4 Kh8 11. O-O Nh5 12. d4 f5 13. Nxd6 cxd6 14. dxe5 dxe5 15. Qe2 Qe8 16. Nb5 f4 17. f3 Ng3 18. hxg3 fxg3 19. f4 Bd7 20. Nd6 Qe7 21. Ne4 Qh4 22. Nxg3 Qxg3 23. Rf3 Bg4 24. Rxg3 Bxe2 25. Re3 Bc4 26. d6 Rxf4 27. Re1 Rd4 28. b3 Bb5 29. c4 Bc6 30. c5 Rg4 31. Re2 Rf8 32. Be3 Kg8 33. a4 Rb4 34. Rb2 Kf7 35. Bd2 Rg4 36. Bc3 Ke6 37. b4 Rf3 38. Bxe5 Kxe5 39. b5 Be4 40. Rd2 Rfg3 41. Raa2 Bxg2 42. d7 Bc6+ 43. Kh2 Bxd7 44. Rxd7 Rg6 45. Re2+ Kf6 46. Rde7 {This mistake was attributed to impatience after Black took seven months over his 45th move.} 46...Rg2+ 47. Rxg2 Rxg2+ 48. Kxg2 Kxe7 49. Kf3 h5 50. a5 Kd7 {White resigns.} 0-1[/pgn]

Sources: La Stratégie, 15 May 1875, pages 141-143, and Deutsche Schachzeitung, July 1875, pages 218-219.

Although the magazines specified that White and Black lived in Pforzheim and New York respectively, Irving Chernev (on page 129 of his book Wonders and Curiosities of Chess) stated that the game was 'between a Mr Brenzinger of New York and his brother in England'.
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Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.