Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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Chessqueen wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:17 am
Nordlandia wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:58 pm The side with the queen is clear favorite in case Q removed for two rooks. In the initial position.

Position eval -1

1nbqkbn1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1
What about with this Odds, who do you favor. Lets see if the Queen really worth 10 points
[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"] [Date "2023.11.26"] [Round "?"] [White "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x"] [Black "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x"] [Result "*"] [BlackElo "3550"] [Time "20:50:06"] [WhiteElo "3550"] [TimeControl "1800+10"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "2bqkbnr/ppp2ppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1"] [Termination "unterminated"] [PlyCount "1"] [WhiteType "program"] [BlackType "program"][/pgn]
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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Chessqueen wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:55 am
Chessqueen wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:17 am
Nordlandia wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:58 pm The side with the queen is clear favorite in case Q removed for two rooks. In the initial position.

Position eval -1

1nbqkbn1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1
What about with this Odds, who do you favor. Lets see if the Queen really worth 10 points
[pgn][Event "Computer chess game"] [Site "DESKTOP-4QNC0GS"] [Date "2023.11.26"] [Round "?"] [White "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x"] [Black "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2y"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [BlackElo "3555"] [Time "20:52:53"] [WhiteElo "3550"] [TimeControl "1800+10"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPP2PPP/2BQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1"] [Termination "adjudication"] [PlyCount "124"] [WhiteType "program"] [BlackType "program"] 1. g4 d6 2. Bg2 Nc6 3. f4 Bd7 4. b4 e6 5. a3 Nge7 6. Nf3 h5 7. g5 Nf5 8. Bh3 Nce7 9. Bb2 O-O-O 10. Qd3 Kb8 11. O-O d5 12. Ne5 Be8 13. b5 d4 14. Qb3 Ne3 15. Re1 f6 16. Nf3 N7f5 17. Bxf5 Nxf5 18. Qxe6 Bg6 19. Ne5 fxe5 20. Qxg6 Ne3 21. fxe5 Bc5 22. e6 Rhe8 23. Bc1 Re7 24. Qd3 Kc8 25. a4 Rd6 26. Kh1 Rexe6 27. Bd2 g6 28. a5 b6 29. a6 Re5 30. c3 Kd7 31. cxd4 Rxd4 32. Qc3 Nd5 33. Qf3 Rxe1+ 34. Bxe1 Ne7 35. Bg3 Rd5 36. Qf8 Bd6 37. Bxd6 Rxd6 38. Qa8 Nc8 39. Kg2 Rd2+ 40. Kf3 Rd6 41. Qb7 Kd8 42. Qe4 Kd7 43. Qa8 Re6 44. Qd5+ Rd6 45. Qa8 Re6 46. Qd5+ Rd6 47. Qb7 Kd8 48. Qe4 Kd7 49. Kf4 Ne7 50. Qb7 Nc8 51. h3 Re6 52. h4 Kd8 53. Qd5+ Rd6 54. Qg8+ Kd7 55. Qa2 Ne7 56. Qb2 c6 57. bxc6+ Nxc6 58. Qb3 Re6 59. Qc4 Ne7 60. Qd3+ Rd6 61. Qb5+ Nc6 62. Qb3 Ne7 63. Qa4+ Nc6 64. Kf3 Rd4 65. Qb3 Ne7 66. Qb5+ Nc6 67. Qb3 Rd6 68. Qf7+ Ne7 69. Qb3 Re6 70. Kg2 Nc6 71. Kg1 Re1+ 72. Kg2 Re6 73. Qf3 Rd6 74. Kg1 b5 75. Qe2 b4 76. Qb5 Re6 77. Qb7+ Kd6 78. Qg7 Kc5 79. Kf2 Kb6 80. Qg8 Rd6 81. Qc4 Rd2+ 82. Ke1 Rd6 83. Kf1 Rd1+ 84. Kf2 Rd6 85. Kf1 Rd1+ 86. Kf2 Rd6 87. Kg2 Kc7 88. Qf7+ Kb6 89. Qc4 Rd4 90. Qf7 Rd2+ 91. Kf1 Rd6 92. Qb7+ Kc5 93. Kf2 Rd2+ 94. Ke1 Rd6 95. Qg7 Kb5 96. Qb7+ Kc4 97. Qf7+ Kc5 98. Kf2 Rd2+ 99. Ke1 Rd6 100. Kf1 Kb5 101. Qc7 Rd1+ 102. Ke2 Rd4 103. Qb7+ Kc5 104. Qf7 Rd6 105. Kf2 Kb5 106. Qf4 Kc5 107. Qe3+ Kc4 108. Qe2+ Kc5 109. Qe3+ Kb5 110. Qf4 Kc5 111. Qe3+ {3-fold repetition} *[/pgn]
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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Nordlandia wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:58 pm The side with the queen is clear favorite in case Q removed for two rooks. In the initial position.

Position eval -1

1nbqkbn1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1
So far Rubichess has survived the middlegame with an advantage, can it survive the endgame against almighty Stockfish ?

[pgn][Event "Queen Vs 2 Rooks"] [Site "DESKTOP-4QNC0GS"] [Date "2023.11.27"] [Round "?"] [White "Pichardo's PC"] [White "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x"] [Black "Rubichess-20230918"] [Result "*"] [BlackElo "3508"] [Time "15:38:00"] [WhiteElo "3550"] [TimeControl "4800+10"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "1nbqkbn1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1"] [Termination "unterminated"] [PlyCount "63"] [WhiteType "program"] [BlackType "program"] 1. e4 {(e2-e4 d7-d5 d2-d3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 Bc8-g4 Bf1-e2 e7-e6 e4xd5 Nc6-b4 Nb1-a3 Nb4xd5 Na3-c4 Bf8-b4+ Ke1-f1 Bg4xf3 Be2xf3 Bb4-c5 c2-c3 Nd5-b6 Nc4-e5 f7-f6 d3-d4 Bc5xd4 c3xd4 f6xe5 d4xe5 Qd8-d3+ Kf1-g1 Ng8-e7 h2-h4 Nb6-d5 Bc1-g5 Qd3-d4 Rh1-h3 Qd4xb2 Ra1-d1 Nd5-c3 Rd1-e1 Ne7-d5 Bf3-h5+ g7-g6 Bh5-f3) -1.01/40 114} d5 {(d7-d5 e4xd5) +1.12/42 377} 2. d3 {(d2-d3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 Bc8-g4 Bf1-e2 e7-e6 e4xd5 Nc6-b4 Nb1-a3 Nb4xd5 Na3-c4 Bf8-b4+ Ke1-f1 Bb4-d6 c2-c3 Nd5-f4 h2-h3 Bg4xf3 Be2xf3 Nf4xd3 Bc1-e3 Qd8-f6 Ra1-d1 Qf6-f5 Bf3-e2 Nd3-e5 Nc4xd6+ c7xd6 Rd1xd6 Ng8-f6 Kf1-g1 a7-a6 Rd6-d1 Nf6-d5 Be3-d4 Nd5-f4 Be2-f1 h7-h5 Bd4xe5 Qf5xe5 g2-g3 Nf4-e2+ Bf1xe2 Qe5xe2 Kg1-g2 Qe2-e4+ Kg2-h2 Qe4-c2 Kh2-g2 Qc2xb2 a2-a4 h5-h4 g3xh4 Qb2xc3 Rd1-c1 Qc3-b4 Rc1-c8+ Ke8-e7 Rh1-c1 Qb4xa4 Rc8-c7+ Ke7-f6) -1.09/41 47} c5 {(c7-c5 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 Nb1-d2 Nb8-c6 Bf1-e2 h7-h6 O-O e7-e5 Rf1-e1 Bc8-e6 a2-a3 Bf8-e7 Be2-d1 Qd8-c7 c2-c4 d5xe4 d3xe4 Ke8-f8 b2-b3 Nc6-d4 h2-h3 Nf6-h7 Bc1-b2 Kf8-g8 Ra1-b1 Nh7-f6 Nd2-f1 Be7-d6 Nf1-g3 a7-a6 a3-a4 Nf6-h7 Bb2-c3 Nh7-f8 Ng3-f1 Nf8-g6 Nf1-e3 Ng6-f4 Ne3-d5 Be6xd5 e4xd5 Nf4-d3) +0.95/43 489} 3. Nf3 {(Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 Bf1-e2 Ng8-f6 Nb1-d2 e7-e5 O-O Bf8-d6 c2-c3 Ke8-f8 Rf1-e1 d5-d4 a2-a3 h7-h6 Be2-d1 Bd6-c7 c3xd4 e5xd4 Bd1-a4 Bc8-e6 Ba4xc6 b7xc6 h2-h3 g7-g5 Ra1-b1 Nf6-h5 Nd2-c4 Be6xc4 d3xc4) -0.78/42 61} Nf6 {(Ng8-f6 Bf1-e2 Nb8-c6 O-O h7-h6 Nb1-d2 e7-e5 Rf1-e1 Bc8-e6 Be2-d1 Bf8-d6 c2-c3 Ke8-f8 h2-h3 Bd6-b8 a2-a3 a7-a6 b2-b4 d5xe4 d3xe4 Bb8-a7 Bd1-a4 c5xb4 a3xb4 Qd8-b6 Re1-e2 Kf8-g8 Ba4-c2 Nf6-h5 Nd2-f1 Nh5-f4 Bc1xf4 e5xf4 e4-e5 Qb6-c7 Bc2-e4 g7-g5 Nf1-d2 Nc6xe5 Be4xb7 Ne5-d3 Bb7xa6 Qc7xc3) +0.96/42 243} 4. Nbd2 {(Nb1-d2 Nb8-c6 Bf1-e2 e7-e5 O-O h7-h6 Rf1-e1 Bc8-e6 h2-h3 d5-d4 Nd2-f1 Bf8-d6 Bc1-d2 b7-b5 b2-b3 Ke8-f8 a2-a4 b5-b4 Bd2-c1 Bd6-c7 Nf3-h2 Kf8-g8 Nf1-d2 Kg8-h7 Nd2-c4 Kh7-h8 Bc1-d2 Qd8-c8 Be2-g4 Nf6xg4 h3xg4 Nc6-a5 Nc4xa5 Bc7xa5) -0.85/45 81} Nc6 {(Nb8-c6 Bf1-e2 h7-h6 O-O e7-e5 Rf1-e1 Bc8-e6 Be2-d1 Bf8-d6 c2-c3 Ke8-f8 e4xd5 Nf6xd5 Nd2-c4 f7-f6 Nc4xd6 Qd8xd6 Nf3-d2 b7-b6 Bd1-a4 Qd6-c7 Nd2-f1 Nd5-e7 Ba4-b5 Kf8-g8 Bc1-e3 Qc7-b7 Nf1-d2 Ne7-g6 a2-a4 a7-a6 Bb5-c4 Be6xc4 Nd2xc4 Nc6-e7 Kg1-h1 Ng6-h4 f2-f3 Nh4-g6 a4-a5 b6-b5 Nc4-d2 Qb7-c6 Nd2-e4) +0.97/43 389} 5. Be2 {(Bf1-e2 e7-e5 O-O Bf8-d6 c2-c3 Ke8-f8 Rf1-e1 d5-d4 Nd2-f1 a7-a5 Be2-d1 Bd6-c7 Bc1-d2 d4xc3 b2xc3 Qd8xd3 Nf1-e3 Nc6-e7 Bd1-c2 Qd3-a6 a2-a4 h7-h6 Ra1-b1 b7-b6 Bd2-c1 Ne7-g6 g2-g3 Ng6-e7 Nf3-d2 Bc8-e6 Bc2-b3 Qa6-d3 Bb3xe6 f7xe6 Ne3-c4 Kf8-g8 Rb1-b3 Ne7-c8) -0.80/45 82} h6 {(h7-h6 O-O e7-e5 Rf1-e1 Bc8-e6 Be2-d1 Bf8-d6 e4xd5 Nf6xd5 Nd2-e4 Ke8-f8 a2-a3 Kf8-g8 Ne4xd6 Qd8xd6 Bc1-d2 f7-f6 h2-h3 g7-g5 c2-c3 Be6-f5 Bd1-e2 h6-h5 b2-b4 b7-b6 Ra1-d1 Bf5-g6 Nf3-h2 Kg8-f8 Nh2-f1 h5-h4 b4xc5 b6xc5 Rd1-b1 Nd5-f4 Bd2xf4 e5xf4 Rb1-b7 Nc6-e5 Rb7xa7) +0.79/43 119} 6. O-O {(O-O e7-e5 Rf1-e1 Bc8-e6 e4xd5 Nf6xd5 Be2-d1 f7-f6 Nd2-e4 Ke8-f7 h2-h3 Nd5-c7 a2-a3 Kf7-g8 Bc1-d2 a7-a5 Ra1-c1 Be6-f7 Ne4-g3 h6-h5 Bd1-e2 Nc7-e6 c2-c3 g7-g5 Nf3-h2 h5-h4 Ng3-f1 Bf7-g6 Rc1-d1 f6-f5 Be2-f3 Bf8-g7 Bd2-e3 a5-a4 Nf1-d2 Qd8xd3) -0.88/43 196} e5 {(e7-e5) +0.87/43 275} 7. Re1 {(Rf1-e1 Bc8-e6 h2-h3 Bf8-e7 a2-a3 d5-d4 Nd2-c4 Qd8-b8 b2-b3 Be7-d8 a3-a4 Bd8-c7 Bc1-d2 b7-b6 c2-c3 Ke8-f8 Re1-c1 Kf8-g8 Ra1-b1 a7-a5 Nf3-h2 Qb8-d8 Rb1-b2 Kg8-h7 Rc1-a1 Nf6-d7 Be2-g4 Be6xg4 Nh2xg4 Nd7-f8 Ra1-d1 Nf8-e6 g2-g3 Qd8-d7) -0.82/43 88} Be6 {(Bc8-e6 Be2-d1 Bf8-d6 e4xd5 Nf6xd5 Nd2-e4 b7-b6 Ne4xd6+ Qd8xd6 Bc1-d2 Ke8-f8 a2-a3 Kf8-g8 Bd1-e2 f7-f6 h2-h3 Be6-f7 b2-b4 c5xb4 a3xb4 Nd5xb4 Bd2xb4 Qd6xb4 c2-c3 Qb4-d6 d3-d4 e5-e4 Nf3-d2 f6-f5 Be2-c4 Bf7xc4 Nd2xc4 Qd6-d5 Nc4-e3 Qd5-d7 Ne3-c4 Kg8-h7 Re1-d1 Qd7-c7 d4-d5 Nc6-d8 Nc4-e3 f5-f4) +0.86/40 66} 8. h3 {(h2-h3 Bf8-e7 a2-a3 d5-d4 Nd2-c4 Qd8-b8 b2-b3 Be7-d8 a3-a4 Ke8-f8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-b4 Be2-d1 b7-b6 Bc1-d2 Kf8-g8 Nc4-a3 h6-h5 Nh2-f3 Nf6-h7 Na3-c4 Nb4-c6 Bd1-e2 Kg8-h8 c2-c3 g7-g5 b3-b4 g5-g4 h3xg4) -0.78/48 360} Bd6 {(Bf8-d6 e4xd5 Nf6xd5 Nd2-e4 Bd6-e7 Bc1-d2 f7-f5 Ne4-g3 Be7-d6 Be2-f1 Ke8-f8 a2-a3 a7-a5 c2-c4 Nd5-e7 h3-h4 Qd8-c7 Bf1-e2 Be6-d7 Be2-d1 b7-b6 h4-h5 Nc6-d4 Nf3xd4 e5xd4 Bd1-f3 a5-a4 Ng3-e2 Bd7-c6 Bf3xc6 Ne7xc6 Ra1-b1 Kf8-g8 b2-b4 a4xb3/ep Rb1xb3 Nc6-e5) +0.89/39 190} 9. exd5 {(e4xd5 Nf6xd5 a2-a3 Ke8-f8 Be2-f1 Bd6-b8 c2-c4 Nd5-e7 b2-b4 c5xb4 Nd2-b3 Be6-f5 Bc1-b2 b4xa3 Bb2xa3 Kf8-g8 Nb3-c5 b7-b6 Nc5-a6 Bb8-d6 c4-c5 b6xc5 Na6xc5 Bd6-c7 Nc5-b7 Qd8-d5 Ba3xe7 Nc6xe7 Nb7-a5 Bf5-e6 Na5-c4 Ne7-c6 Re1-c1) -0.81/38 46} Nxd5 {(Nf6xd5 a2-a3 Ke8-f8 Be2-f1 Bd6-e7 Ra1-b1 f7-f6 Nd2-e4 a7-a5 Bc1-d2 Kf8-g8 c2-c3 Be6-f7 Rb1-c1 Qd8-b6 g2-g4 h6-h5 g4-g5 f6-f5 Ne4-g3 g7-g6 c3-c4 Nd5-c7 Nf3xe5 Nc6xe5 Re1xe5 Be7-d6 Re5-e1 Nc7-e6 Rc1-b1 Qb6-c7 Bf1-g2 Bd6xg3 f2xg3 Qc7xg3) +0.87/38 94} 10. a3 {(a2-a3 Ke8-f8 Be2-f1 Bd6-b8 c2-c4 Nd5-e7 b2-b4 c5xb4 Nd2-b3 Be6-f5 Bc1-b2 b4xa3 Bb2xa3 Kf8-g8 Nb3-c5 Bf5-c8 d3-d4 Nc6xd4 Nf3xd4 e5xd4 Nc5xb7 Bc8xb7 Re1xe7 Bb7-c6 Ra1-d1 Qd8-b6 Rd1-d2 Bb8-f4 Rd2-d3 a7-a5 h3-h4 a5-a4 g2-g3 Bf4-c7 Re7-e2 Kg8-h7 Re2-d2) -0.73/38 65} Kf8 {(Ke8-f8 Be2-f1 Bd6-e7 Ra1-b1 Qd8-c7 c2-c3 a7-a5 Nd2-c4 f7-f6 a3-a4 Qc7-d7 Bc1-e3 Be6-f7 Rb1-d1 b7-b6 Be3-c1 Kf8-g8 Bc1-e3 Kg8-h7 Be3-c1 Bf7-h5 Bf1-e2 Qd7-e8 g2-g4 Bh5-f7 Nf3-h4 g7-g6 Nh4-g2 Qe8-d7 f2-f4 e5xf4 Ng2xf4 Be7-d8 Be2-f3 Bd8-c7 Nf4xd5 Bf7xd5 Bf3xd5 Qd7xd5) +0.77/41 142} 11. Bf1 {(Be2-f1 Bd6-b8 c2-c4 Nd5-e7 b2-b4 c5xb4 Nd2-b3 Be6-f5 Bc1-b2 b4xa3 Bb2xa3 Kf8-g8 Nb3-c5 b7-b6 Nc5-a6 Bb8-d6 c4-c5 b6xc5 Na6xc5 Bd6-c7 Re1-c1 Bf5-c8 Ba3-b2 Kg8-h7 d3-d4 e5xd4 Ra1-a4 Bc7-b6 Bb2xd4 a7-a5 Bd4-b2 Nc6-b4 Ra4-a1 Ne7-g6 Rc1-c4 Bc8-f5 Ra1-c1 Bb6xc5 Rc4xc5 Bf5-d3 Rc1-d1 Qd8-b6 Bb2-d4 Bd3xf1 Rd1xf1 Ng6-f4 Bd4-e3 Nb4-d3 Rc5-f5 Nf4xh3+ g2xh3 Qb6-g6+ Nf3-g5+ h6xg5 Rf5xg5) -0.75/42 69} Be7 {(Bd6-e7 Ra1-b1 f7-f6 Nd2-e4 a7-a5 Bc1-d2 Be6-f7 c2-c3 Kf8-g8 Ne4-g3 Be7-f8 Re1-d1 a5-a4 b2-b4 a4xb3/ep c3-c4 Nd5-c7 Rb1xb3 b7-b5 Rb3-b1 b5-b4 a3xb4 c5xb4 Bd2-e3 Nc7-e6 Rb1-a1 Qd8-c7 Ra1-a6 Bf8-c5 Be3xc5 Ne6xc5 Ra6-a8+ Kg8-h7 d3-d4 e5xd4 Nf3xd4 Nc6xd4 Rd1xd4 b4-b3) +0.91/40 118} 12. Rb1 {(Ra1-b1 f7-f6 Nd2-e4 a7-a5 Bc1-d2 g7-g5 c2-c3 Kf8-f7 b2-b4 c5xb4 a3xb4 a5xb4 c3xb4 Nd5xb4 Ne4-g3 b7-b6 Re1-c1 Be7-c5 Bd2-e3 Bc5-f8 Be3-d2 Bf8-e7 Rb1-b2 Qd8-d7 Ng3-e4 Kf7-g6 Bd2xb4 Nc6xb4) -0.63/39 64} Qc7 {(Qd8-c7 c2-c3 a7-a5 Nd2-c4 f7-f6 a3-a4 g7-g5 Bc1-d2 Kf8-f7 g2-g3 Nd5-b6 b2-b3 Kf7-g7 Bd2-c1 Be6-f5 Nf3-d2 Nb6xc4 b3xc4 Bf5-g6 g3-g4 b7-b6 Nd2-e4 Be7-d8 Bf1-g2 h6-h5 Bc1-e3 h5xg4 h3xg4 Qc7-d7 Bg2-f3 Nc6-e7 Re1-d1 Qd7xa4 Rb1-b5 Bd8-c7 Kg1-g2 Bg6-e8 Rb5-b1 Be8-c6 Ne4-g3 e5-e4 Bf3xe4 Bc6xe4+ d3xe4 Bc7xg3 Kg2xg3 Qa4xc4 Rb1xb6 Qc4xe4) +0.75/44 375} 13. c3 {(c2-c3 a7-a5 Nd2-c4 f7-f6 a3-a4 g7-g5 Bc1-e3 Kf8-g7 Rb1-d1 h6-h5 g2-g3 g5-g4 h3xg4 h5xg4 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Be3-d2 Nd5-b6 Nc4xb6 Qc7xb6 Bf1-g2 Be6-d7 b2-b3 Qb6xb3 Nh2-f1 Bd7-f5 c3-c4 Bf5xd3) -0.68/39 76} a5 {(a7-a5 Nd2-c4 f7-f6 a3-a4 g7-g5 Bc1-d2 Kf8-f7 Bf1-e2 Kf7-g8 Rb1-d1 Nd5-b6 b2-b3 Nb6-d5 Be2-f1 Be6-f7 Nf3-h2 h6-h5 Bf1-e2 f6-f5 g2-g3 g5-g4 h3xg4 h5xg4 Be2-f1 Bf7-e6 Bf1-g2 Be7-f6 Nh2-f1 Qc7-h7 Nc4-d6 Qh7-d7 Nd6-c4 Qd7-c7 Nf1-e3 Nd5-e7 d3-d4 c5xd4 c3xd4 Nc6xd4 Bd2xa5 Qc7-b8 Ba5-b6) +0.73/41 101} 14. Nc4 {(Nd2-c4 f7-f6 a3-a4 Be6-f7 Bc1-e3 g7-g5 Rb1-d1 Kf8-g7 Nf3-d2 h6-h5 g2-g3 Qc7-d7 Nd2-f3 b7-b6 Be3-c1 Nc6-d8 Bc1xg5 f6xg5 Nf3xe5 Qd7-f5 Bf1-g2 Bf7-e6 Rd1-d2 Be7-f8 Rd2-e2 Be6-g8 Re2-e4 Qf5-c8 h3-h4 Nd5-f6 Re4-e3 Nd8-f7 Nc4xb6) -0.60/39 69} f6 {(f7-f6 a3-a4 Be6-f7 Bc1-e3 Qc7-d7 Rb1-d1 g7-g5 g2-g3 Bf7-e6 Kg1-h2 Kf8-g8 Bf1-g2 Nc6-d8 Nf3-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f1 h5-h4 Nc4xa5 Qd7xa4 Na5-c4 Qa4-d7 g3xh4 g5xh4 Rd1-a1 b7-b5 Nc4-d2 f6-f5 Nd2-f3 Nd8-f7 Ra1-a6 Kg8-g7 Be3-c1 Be7-f6 Bc1-d2 b5-b4 c3-c4) +0.76/39 73} 15. a4 {(a3-a4 g7-g5 Bc1-e3 Kf8-g7 Rb1-d1 h6-h5 g2-g3 Nd5xe3 Nc4xe3 Qc7-d7 h3-h4 g5xh4 Nf3xh4 f6-f5 Nh4-f3 h5-h4 g3xh4 Be7-f6 Bf1-g2 Nc6-e7 Ne3-c4 Be6xc4 d3xc4 Qd7-c7 Re1-e2 e5-e4 Nf3-g5 Bf6xg5 h4xg5 Ne7-g6 Re2-d2 Ng6-e5 Rd2-d6 Ne5-d3 Rd6xd3 e4xd3 Rd1xd3 Qc7-f4 Bg2-h3 Kg7-f7 Rd3-d5 Qf4xg5+ Kg1-h1 Qg5-h4 Rd5xf5+ Kf7-e8 Kh1-g2 Qh4xc4 Rf5-e5+ Ke8-d8) -0.57/43 108} Kg8 {(Kf8-g8) +0.87/40 330} 16. Be3 {(Bc1-e3 Kg8-h7 Rb1-d1 Be6-f7 Be3-c1 Qc7-d7 Bc1-e3 b7-b6 Be3-c1 Kh7-g8 Bf1-e2 Kg8-h8 Nf3-h2 Be7-d8 Be2-g4 f6-f5 Bg4-f3 Bd8-c7 g2-g3 Kh8-h7 Bf3-g2 Nd5-f6 Bg2xc6 Qd7xc6 Nc4xe5 Bc7xe5 Re1xe5 Bf7-d5 Rd1-e1 Bd5-g2 Re5-e6 Qc6-a8 f2-f3 Bg2xf3 Nh2xf3 Qa8xf3 Re6-e3 Qf3-h5 Kg1-g2 c5-c4 d3xc4 Qh5-f7 Re3-e6) -0.66/45 235} Bf7 {(Be6-f7 Rb1-d1 b7-b6 Rd1-a1 Qc7-d7 Ra1-d1 g7-g5 Be3-d2 Kg8-g7 Bd2-c1 Be7-f8 Bc1-d2 Bf7-g6 Bd2-c1 Bg6-h5 Bf1-e2 Bh5-f7 Be2-f1 Bf7-g6 Bc1-e3 Bf8-e7 Be3-c1 Kg7-h7 Nc4-e3 Bg6-f7 d3-d4 c5xd4 c3xd4 e5-e4 Ne3xd5 Bf7xd5 Nf3-d2 f6-f5 Nd2-c4 Qd7-d8 Bc1-d2 Be7-f6 Bd2-c3 Nc6-e7 Nc4-e3 Bd5-b3 Rd1-c1 f5-f4 Bf1-c4) +0.91/39 95} 17. Bd2 {(Be3-d2 b7-b6 Rb1-c1 Qc7-d7 Nc4-a3 Bf7-h5 Bf1-e2 g7-g5 Na3-b5 Bh5-f7 Rc1-d1 h6-h5 Nf3-h2 f6-f5 Nh2-f3 f5-f4 d3-d4 c5xd4 c3xd4 e5-e4 Nf3-e5 Nc6xe5 d4xe5 Be7-c5 Nb5-c3 Qd7-f5 Nc3xd5 Bf7xd5 Be2xh5 e4-e3 f2xe3 Qf5-c2 Bh5-e2) -0.73/45 382} Nb6 {(Nd5-b6 Nc4xb6 Qc7xb6 b2-b3 Be7-d6 Bd2-c1 f6-f5 Nf3-h4 Bf7-e6 Nh4-f3 Be6-d5 Nf3-d2 Kg8-h7 Bc1-a3 Qb6-d8 Rb1-d1 b7-b6 Ba3-b2 Qd8-d7 Re1-e3 Bd6-b8 Bf1-e2 Qd7-d8 Be2-f1 Bb8-c7 Bf1-e2 Qd8-d6 Nd2-c4 Qd6-e6 Be2-f3 Bd5xf3 Re3xf3 Nc6-e7 Rd1-e1 Ne7-g6 Kg1-f1 Ng6-h4 Rf3-g3) +0.99/38 95} 18. Nxb6 {(Nc4xb6 Qc7xb6 b2-b3 Qb6-c7 Bd2-c1 f6-f5 Nf3-d2 Kg8-h7 Nd2-c4 Be7-f6 Bc1-d2 b7-b6 Nc4-e3 Qc7-d7 Ne3-c4 Qd7-d8 Re1-c1 Qd8-c7 Rc1-d1 Nc6-e7 b3-b4 Bf7xc4 d3xc4 e5-e4 b4xa5 b6xa5 g2-g3 Ne7-g6 Bd2-e3 Bf6-g5 Be3xg5 h6xg5 Bf1-g2 e4-e3 Rd1-d5 e3xf2+ Kg1xf2 f5-f4 Rd5xg5 Kh7-h6 Rg5-g4 f4xg3+ Rg4xg3 Ng6-h4) -0.78/38 49} Qxb6 {(Qc7xb6 Bd2-c1 Be7-d6 b2-b3 Qb6-d8 Nf3-d2 b7-b6 Nd2-c4 Bd6-b8 Bc1-a3 Qd8-c7 g2-g3 Bf7-d5 Nc4-e3 Bd5-f3 b3-b4 c5xb4 c3xb4 a5xb4 Ba3xb4 Nc6-d4 Re1-c1 Qc7-d7 Bb4-c5 b6xc5 Rb1xb8+ Kg8-h7 Rc1xc5 Qd7xa4 Rc5-c1 h6-h5 Rb8-c8 f6-f5 Rc1-c7 f5-f4 g3xf4 e5xf4 Ne3-g2 Bf3xg2 Bf1xg2 f4-f3 Bg2-f1 Qa4-a1) +0.98/37 80} 19. Bc1 {(Bd2-c1 Qb6-d8 b2-b3 Be7-d6 Nf3-d2 Bd6-c7 Nd2-c4 b7-b6 Bc1-b2 f6-f5 Rb1-d1 Kg8-h7 g2-g3 Bf7-h5 Rd1-d2 Bh5-f3 d3-d4 e5xd4 Re1-e3 Bf3-e4 Re3xe4 f5xe4 c3xd4 Nc6xd4 Bb2xd4 c5xd4 Bf1-g2 Qd8-d5 Rd2-d3 Kh7-h8 Nc4-d2 Qd5-e5 Nd2xe4 b6-b5 a4xb5 Qe5xb5 Bg2-f1 Bc7-e5 Ne4-d2 Qb5-b4 h3-h4 g7-g6 Nd2-f3 Be5-f6 Nf3-d2 Kh8-g7 Nd2-f3 Qb4-b7 Nf3xd4 Bf6xd4 Rd3xd4 Qb7xb3) -0.81/48 238} Bd6 {(Be7-d6 Bc1-e3 Qb6-d8 Nf3-d2 b7-b6 Rb1-d1 Qd8-d7 Bf1-e2 Bf7-d5 Nd2-c4 Bd6-c7 f2-f3 Nc6-e7 b2-b3 Ne7-f5 Be3-f2 Bd5-f7 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 h3-h4 Kg8-h7 Rd1-b1 Bf7-d5 Nd2-e4 Bd5-c6 Rb1-d1 Kh7-g8 Rd1-b1 Kg8-f8 Rb1-b2 Bc7-d8 Be2-d1 g7-g6 Rb2-d2 Kf8-g7 Bd1-c2 Bd8-e7 Rd2-d1 Qd7-c7) +0.90/41 106} 20. b3 {(b2-b3 Qb6-d8 Nf3-d2 Bd6-c7 Nd2-c4 b7-b6 Bc1-e3 Bf7-d5 Rb1-d1 f6-f5 f2-f3 h6-h5 Be3-f2 Qd8-g5 Nc4-d2 Qg5-g6 Kg1-h1 Qg6-f6 Bf2-g3 g7-g5 d3-d4 c5xd4 c3xd4 Nc6xd4 Bf1-c4 Bd5xc4 Nd2xc4 f5-f4 Bg3-f2 g5-g4 Bf2xd4 e5xd4 Nc4-d2 g4xh3 Nd2-e4 h3xg2+ Kh1xg2 Qf6-f7 Kg2-f2 Qf7xb3 Rd1xd4) -0.75/46 86} f5 {(f6-f5 Bc1-b2 Bf7-h5 Bf1-e2 Qb6-c7 Nf3-d2 Bh5xe2 Re1xe2 Qc7-d8 Nd2-c4 Bd6-c7 Rb1-d1 Kg8-h7 Re2-e1 Qd8-d7 Bb2-a3 b7-b6 Ba3-b2 Qd7-d5 Bb2-c1 Qd5-f7 Bc1-a3 Kh7-g8 Kg1-f1 Qf7-d5 Kf1-g1 Qd5-d7 Ba3-c1 Qd7-f7 Bc1-a3 Qf7-f6 Ba3-b2 Kg8-h7 Bb2-c1 Nc6-e7 d3-d4 e5-e4 d4xc5 b6xc5) +0.79/40 236} 21. Bb2 {(Bc1-b2 Bf7-h5 Nf3-d2 Bd6-b8 Nd2-c4 Qb6-c7 Bb2-c1 Bh5-f7 Rb1-b2 Bf7-d5 Nc4-e3 Bd5-e6 Ne3-c4 g7-g5 g2-g3 Qc7-d7 Rb2-e2 Bb8-c7 Nc4-d2 Be6-f7 Bc1-b2 Qd7xd3 Nd2-c4 Qd3-d7 Re2-d2 Qd7-e7 Nc4-e3 f5-f4 Ne3-f5 Qe7-f6 g3-g4 Nc6-e7 Nf5xe7+ Qf6xe7 c3-c4 e5-e4 Bf1-g2 e4-e3 f2xe3 f4xe3 Rd2-e2 Bc7-f4 Bb2-c1) -0.83/44 154} Bh5 {(Bf7-h5) +0.90/43 86} 22. Nd2 {(Nf3-d2 Bd6-b8 Bb2-a3 Qb6-c7 g2-g3 b7-b6 Nd2-c4 f5-f4 Bf1-g2 Bh5-g6 Ba3-c1 Qc7-d7 Rb1-b2 f4xg3 Nc4xb6 Qd7xd3 Bg2xc6 Qd3xc3 Re1-d1 c5-c4 f2xg3 Kg8-h7 Nb6xc4 Qc3xg3+ Bc6-g2 Bg6-h5 Rd1-d8 Bb8-a7+ Kg1-f1 Qg3-g6 Kf1-e1 Ba7-d4 Rd8xd4 Qg6-g3+ Rb2-f2 e5xd4 Bg2-e4+ Bh5-g6 Be4xg6+ Kh7xg6 Bc1-b2 Qg3xb3 Nc4-e5+ Kg6-h7 Bb2xd4 Qb3xh3 Ke1-d2 Qh3-b3 Rf2-f7 Qb3xa4 Kd2-d3 Qa4-d1+ Kd3-e4 Qd1-e2+ Ke4-d5 a5-a4 Rf7-a7 Qe2-g2+ Kd5-c4) -0.74/39 39} Bb8 {(Bd6-b8 Bb2-a3 Qb6-c7 g2-g3 Qc7-e7 Rb1-b2 Bh5-f7 Nd2-c4 h6-h5 h3-h4 g7-g5 h4xg5 Qe7xg5 Bf1-g2 h5-h4 g3xh4 Qg5-g7 Kg1-f1 e5-e4 d3xe4 Qg7xc3 Re1-e3 Bf7xc4+ b3xc4 Qc3xc4+ Kf1-g1 Bb8-f4 Re3-h3 f5xe4 Bg2-f1 Qc4xa4 Rb2xb7 Nc6-e5 Rb7-b8+ Kg8-h7 Rb8-b7+ Kh7-h6 Rb7-b6+ Kh6-h5 Bf1-e2+ Ne5-f3+ Be2xf3+ e4xf3 Rh3xf3 Qa4-e4 Rf3xf4 Qe4xf4 Ba3xc5) +1.01/37 44} 23. Ba3 {(Bb2-a3 Qb6-c7 g2-g3 Qc7-d8 Ba3xc5 e5-e4 Bc5-e3 e4xd3 b3-b4 a5xb4 c3xb4 Bh5-e2 Bf1xe2 d3xe2 b4-b5 Nc6-d4 Be3xd4 Qd8xd4 Re1xe2 Bb8xg3 Rb1-e1 Bg3-d6 Nd2-f3 Qd4xa4 Re2-d2 Bd6-c5 Re1-e5 Qa4xb5 Rd2-d5 Qb5-b1+ Kg1-g2 Bc5-a7 Re5xf5 Qb1-c2 Nf3-h2 Kg8-h7 Kg2-g1 Qc2-b3 Kg1-g2 Qb3-c4 Nh2-f3 Qc4-c2 Nf3-e1 Qc2-e2 Rd5-e5 Qe2-a6 Re5-d5 Qa6-g6+ Kg2-f1 Qg6-c6 Ne1-d3 Ba7-b8 Kf1-g1 Qc6-c4) -0.67/43 58} Qc7 {(Qb6-c7 g2-g3 Qc7-e7 Nd2-c4 f5-f4 Bf1-g2 Qe7-g5 g3-g4 Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bg6-e8 Ba3-b2 Be8-d7 Nf3-h2 Qf6-h4 Bg2-f3 Kg8-f8 Rd1-d2 Kf8-e7 Bb2-c3 Ke7-d8 Bf3xc6 Bd7xc6 Bc3xe5 Qh4-h3 f2-f3 Qh3-g3+ Kg1-f1 Bd6xe5 Re1xe5 Bc6xf3 Nh2xf3 Qg3xf3+ Kf1-e1 Qf3-g3+ Ke1-d1) +0.95/37 31} 24. g3 {(g2-g3 b7-b6 Nd2-c4 f5-f4 Bf1-g2 Bh5-g6 Ba3-c1 Qc7-d7 Rb1-b2 f4xg3 Nc4xb6 Qd7-c7 Nb6-d5 Qc7-d8 f2xg3 Bg6xd3 Rb2-f2 e5-e4 Nd5-f4 Bb8xf4 Bc1xf4 Qd8-d5 Rf2-d2 Qd5xb3 Rd2xd3 e4xd3 Bg2xc6 g7-g5 Bf4-d2 Qb3-a2 Re1-d1 Qa2-c2 Bc6-f3 Qc2xa4 Bf3-d5+ Kg8-g7 Rd1-f1 Qa4-c2 Rf1-f7+ Kg7-g6 Rf7-f2 a5-a4 h3-h4 Qc2-d1+ Kg1-h2 a4-a3 c3-c4 Qd1-c2 Kh2-h3 g5xh4) -0.54/40 58} Qe7 {(Qc7-e7 Nd2-c4 f5-f4 Bf1-g2 Qe7-g5 g3-g4 Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 h5xg4 h3xg4 b7-b6 c3-c4 Bg6-f7 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Bg2-e4 Bf7-e6 f2-f3 Nd8-f7 Re1-e2 Nf7-g5 Ba3-b2 Qf6-d8 Rd1-d2 Ng5-h3+ Kg1-h1 Qd8-h4 Nh2-f1 Nh3-g5+ Nf1-h2 Qh4-h3 Re2-g2 Bb8-c7 Rd2-e2 Be6-f7 Kh1-g1 Qh3-h4 Bb2-c3) +0.73/41 97} 25. Nc4 {(Nd2-c4 Qe7-g5 Bf1-g2 f5-f4 g3-g4 Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 Bg6-e8 Ba3-b2 Kg8-f8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Be8-d7 Bg2-d5 Nd8-f7 Kf1-e2 Bd7-c6 Bd5xc6 b7xc6 Nh2-f3 Qf6-g6 Ke2-d2 Qg6xg4 Nf3xe5 Bd6xe5 Bb2xe5 Qg4-g2 Be5-c3 Nf7-h6 Kd2-c1 Qg2xf2 Re1-f1 Qf2-g3 Bc3-e1 Qg3-e3+ Be1-d2 Qe3xd3 Rf1xf4+ Kf8-g8) -0.53/42 101} f4 {(f5-f4 Bf1-g2 Qe7-g5 g3-g4 Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 Bg6-e8 Ba3-b2 Be8-d7 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Bg2-d5+ Kg8-f8 Kg1-g2 Bd6-c7 Bb2-a3 b7-b6 Ba3-b2 Nd8-f7 Re1-e2 Qf6-h4 f2-f3 Nf7-g5 Rd1-f1 Bd7-e6 Bd5xe6 Ng5xe6 Kg2-h1 Qh4-g3 Rf1-f2 Ne6-g5 Rf2-g2 Qg3-h4 Bb2-c3 Kf8-g8 Bc3xe5) +0.88/40 49} 26. Bg2 {(Bf1-g2 Qe7-g5 g3-g4 Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 Bg6-e8 Ba3-b2 Kg8-f8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Bd6-c7 Bg2-d5 Be8-d7 Bb2-a3 b7-b6 Ba3-b2 Nd8-f7 Re1-e2 Qf6-h6 f2-f3 Bd7-c6 Bd5-e4 Bc6xe4 d3xe4 Qh6-h3+ Kf1-g1 Bc7-d8 Bb2-c3 Bd8-h4 Rd1-d3 Nf7-g5 Re2-g2 Bh4-g3 Nh2-f1 Bg3-e1 Bc3xe1 Ng5xf3+ Rd3xf3 Qh3xf3 Nf1-d2 Qf3-d3 Rg2-f2 Kf8-f7 Rf2-g2 Qd3-c3) -0.58/41 55} Qg5 {(Qe7-g5 g3-g4 Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bg6-e8 Ba3-b2 Be8-d7 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Bg2-d5+ Kg8-f8 Kg1-f1 Bd6-c7 Bb2-a3 b7-b6 Ba3-b2 Nd8-f7 f2-f3 Bd7-c6 Bd5-e4 Bc6xe4 d3xe4 Qf6-h4 Re1-e2 Qh4-h3+ Kf1-g1 Nf7-g5 Rd1-d3 Qh3-g3+ Kg1-f1 Kf8-g8 Re2-g2 Qg3-h4 Kf1-e2 Ng5-e6 Ke2-d2 Qh4-h3) +0.83/42 57} 27. g4 {(g3-g4 Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 h5xg4 h3xg4 Kg8-f8 Ba3-b2 Bg6-e8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Bd6-c7 Bg2-d5 Be8-d7 Bb2-a3 b7-b6 Ba3-b2 Nd8-f7 Re1-e2 Bd7-c6 Bd5-e4 Bc6xe4 d3xe4 Qf6-h4 f2-f3 Qh4-h3+ Kf1-g1 Bc7-d8 Rd1-d5 Qh3-g3+ Kg1-h1 Kf8-g8 Bb2-c3 Bd8-h4 Bc3xe5 Nf7xe5 Rd5xe5 Bh4-f6 Re5-e8+ Kg8-f7 e4-e5 Kf7xe8 e5xf6+ Ke8-f8 f6xg7+ Kf8xg7 Re2-e7+ Kg7-f6 Re7-e4) -0.56/42 70} Bg6 {(Bh5-g6 Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 h5xg4 h3xg4 Kg8-f8 Ba3-b2 Bg6-e8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Nd8-f7 Bg2xb7 Bd6-c7 Bb7-e4 Qf6-b6 Nh2-f3 Be8-d7 g4-g5 Bd7-g4 g5-g6 Bg4xf3 Be4xf3 Qb6xg6 Kf1-e2 Nf7-g5 Re1-g1 Qg6-h6 Rg1xg5 Qh6xg5 Rd1-h1 Qg5-g6 Rh1-h8+ Kf8-e7 Rh8-g8 Qg6-g1 Bb2-c3 Ke7-f6 Bf3-e4) +0.80/42 100} 28. Nd2 {(Nc4-d2 h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-d8 Rb1-d1 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bg6-f7 Ba3xc5 b7-b6 Nf3-d2 Qd8-c8 Bc5xb6 Nc6-e7 Nd2-e4 Qc8xg4 f2-f3 Qg4-g6 Bb6-f2 Bf7-e6 Rd1-d2 Ne7-f5 b3-b4 Nf5-e3 Bf2xe3 f4xe3 Re1xe3 a5xb4 c3xb4 Be6-f5 Ne4-c5 Qg6-h6 Rd2-e2 Qh6-f4 Re3-e4 Bf5xe4 Re2xe4 Qf4-c1+ Kg1-h2) -0.55/41 57} h5 {(h6-h5 Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 h5xg4 h3xg4 Kg8-f8 Ba3-b2 Bg6-e8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Nd8-f7 Bg2xb7 Bd6-c7 Bb7-e4 Qf6-b6 Rd1-d2 Be8-d7 Bb2-a1 Bd7-c6 Nh2-f3 Bc6xe4 Re1xe4 Qb6-e6) +0.73/41 40} 29. Nf3 {(Nd2-f3 Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 Kg8-f8 g4-g5 Qf6-e7 Ba3-c1 Qe7-d7 Bc1-b2 Bg6-f5 Kg1-h2 Qd7-d8 Bb2-c3 Bd6-c7 Bc3-b2 Qd8-e7 Bb2-c3 Qe7-e6 Bc3-b2 Bf5-h7 Kh2-g1 Qe6-f5 Kg1-h2 Bh7-g6 Bb2-c3 Bc7-b8) -0.44/41 57} Qf6 {(Qg5-f6 Rb1-d1 h5xg4 h3xg4 Bb8-d6 c3-c4 Kg8-f8 Ba3-b2 Bg6-e8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Be8-d7 Bg2-d5 Bd6-c7 g4-g5 Qf6-g6 Nh2-f3 Nd8-f7 Kf1-e2 Bd7-c6 Ke2-d2 Bc6xd5 c4xd5 Nf7xg5 Nf3xg5 Qg6xg5 Kd2-c1 Bc7-d6 Bb2-c3 Kf8-f7 Re1-e4 f4-f3+ Kc1-c2 Qg5-g2 Rd1-d2 Kf7-f6 Re4-f4+ Kf6-g6 Rf4-e4 Kg6-f5 Bc3xa5 g7-g5 Ba5-b6 Qg2-g1 Kc2-b2 Kf5-g6) +0.83/43 116} 30. Rbd1 Bd6 {(Bb8-d6) +0.57/37 101} 31. c4 {(c3-c4 h5xg4 h3xg4 Kg8-f8 Ba3-b2 Bg6-e8 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Bd6-c7 Bg2-d5 Be8-c6 Nh2-f3 Nd8-f7 Re1-e4 Bc6xd5 c4xd5 Qf6-g6 Bb2xe5 Nf7xe5 Nf3xe5 Bc7xe5 Re4xe5 Qg6xg4 Rd1-e1 f4-f3 Re1-e3 Qg4-g2+ Kf1-e1 Kf8-g8 d5-d6 Qg2-g1+ Ke1-d2 Qg1xf2+ Kd2-c1 Qf2-g1+ Kc1-b2 Qg1-h2+ Kb2-a3 f3-f2 d6-d7 f2-f1Q d7-d8Q+ Kg8-h7 Re3-e1 Qf1-g2 Re1-e2 Qg2xe2 Re5xe2) -0.37/46 108} hxg4 {(h5xg4 h3xg4 Bg6-e8 Ba3-b2 Be8-d7 Nf3-h2 Nc6-d8 Bg2-d5+ Kg8-f8 f2-f3 Bd7-c6 Bd5xc6 Nd8xc6 Nh2-f1 Qf6-g6 Re1-e4 Bd6-b8 Bb2-c3 Qg6-g5 Kg1-g2 Qg5-d8 Re4-e1 b7-b6 Kg2-g1 Bb8-c7 Re1-e4 Kf8-f7 Kg1-g2 Kf7-g8 Kg2-f2 Qd8-h4+) +0.93/32 29} 32. hxg4 {(h3xg4 Kg8-f8 Ba3-b2 Bg6-e8 Rd1-d2 Be8-d7 Nf3-h2 Qf6-g5 Bg2-f3 Nc6-d8 Kg1-f1 Bd6-c7 Bf3-d5 Bd7-c6 Bd5xc6 Nd8xc6 Re1-e4 Qg5-h4 f2-f3 Qh4-f6 Kf1-e1 Qf6-d8 Bb2-c3 Kf8-f7 Ke1-f2 Qd8-d6 Rd2-d1 Qd6-h6 Kf2-g2 Kf7-g8 Rd1-e1 Qh6-h4 Nh2-f1 Qh4-d8 Re1-d1 Qd8-d6 Kg2-g1 Bc7-d8 Kg1-f2 Bd8-e7 Kf2-g2) -0.58/49 129} *[/pgn]
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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Chessqueen wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:48 pm
Nordlandia wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:58 pm The side with the queen is clear favorite in case Q removed for two rooks. In the initial position.

Position eval -1

1nbqkbn1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1
Where did Rubichess lost the advantage, the side with the Queen is supposed to WIN. :roll:

[pgn][Event "Queen Vs 2 Rooks"] [Site "DESKTOP-4QNC0GS"] [Date "2023.11.27"] [Round "?"] [White "Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x"] [Black "Rubichess-20230918"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [BlackElo "3508"] [Time "15:38:00"] [WhiteElo "3550"] [TimeControl "4800+10"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "1nbqkbn1/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQ - 0 1"] [Termination "unterminated"] [PlyCount "63"] [WhiteType "program"] [BlackType "program"] 1. e4 d5 2. d3 c5 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nbd2 Nc6 5. Be2 h6 6. O-O e5 7. Re1 Be6 8. h3 Bd6 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. a3 Kf8 11. Bf1 Be7 12. Rb1 Qc7 13. c3 a5 14. Nc4 f6 15. a4 Kg8 16. Be3 Bf7 17. Bd2 Nb6 18. Nxb6 Qxb6 19. Bc1 Bd6 20. b3 f5 21. Bb2 Bh5 22. Nd2 Bb8 23. Ba3 Qc7 24. g3 Qe7 25. Nc4 f4 26. Bg2 Qg5 27. g4 Bg6 28. Nd2 h5 29. Nf3 Qf6 30. Rbd1 Bd6 31. c4 hxg4 32. hxg4 Be8 33. Bb2 Kf8 34. Nh2 Nd8 35. Kf1 Bd7 36. Bd5 Bc7 37. g5 Qxg5 38. Nf3 Qf6 39. Ke2 Be6 40. Kd2 Bxd5 41. cxd5 Nf7 42. Kc2 g5 43. Re2 g4 44. Nd2 Ke7 45. Rh1 Qg6 46. Ne4 Kd8 47. Nxc5 f3 48. Ree1 Bb6 49. Ne6+ Kc8 50. Bxe5 Bxf2 51. Rc1 b6 52. Kd2+ Bc5 53. Bg3 Qf5 54. Nxc5 bxc5 55. Rxc5+ Kd8 56. Re1 Qg5+ 57. Kc2 Qf5 58. Rxa5 f2 59. Ra8+ Kd7 60. Ra7+ Kd8 61. Bh4+ Ng5 62. Rf1 Qxd5 63. Rg7 Qe5 64. Bxg5+ Kc8 65. Rg8+ Kb7 66. Bd2 g3 67. Rh1 Qc5+ 68. Kb2 Qd4+ 69. Kc2 Qc5+ 70. Bc3 Qe7 71. Rxg3 f1=Q 72. Rxf1 Qe2+ 73. Bd2 Qxf1 74. Rg7+ Ka6 75. Rg6+ Kb7 76. Rg7+ Ka8 77. Rg5 Kb7 78. d4 Qf2 79. Kd3 Qf1+ 80. Kc2 Qf2 81. Rb5+ Ka6 82. Kc3 Qe2 83. Re5 Qg2 84. Re6+ Ka7 85. Re7+ Kb6 86. Re6+ Kb7 87. Re7+ Kb6 88. Re6+ Ka7 89. Re5 Ka6 90. Rb5 Qf2 91. Rg5 Qf6 92. Kd3 Qf1+ 93. Kc2 Qf2 94. Kc3 Qh2 95. Kd3 Qh3+ 96. Kc4 Qe6+ 97. Kb4 Qd6+ 98. Kc3 Qh2 99. Be1 Qc7+ 100. Kb2 Qh2+ 101. Kc3 Qh1 102. Re5 Qg1 103. Re6+ Kb7 104. Re5 Ka6 105. Re6+ Ka7 106. Re4 Ka6 107. Re5 Qg4 108. Kc4 Qg8+ 109. Kb4 Qb8+ 110. Rb5 Qd6+ 111. Kc3 Qe6 112. Re5 Qd6 113. Bd2 Qf8 114. Kc2 Qf2 115. Re3 Kb7 116. Re7+ Ka6 117. Kc3 Qf5 118. Re5 Qg4 119. Re3 Kb7 120. Rd3 Qc8+ 121. Kb2 Qf5 122. Kc2 Qf2 123. d5 Kc7 124. Rc3+ Kd6[/pgn]
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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You ARE really crazy !!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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ernest wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:38 am You ARE really crazy !!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Really, you just noticed that, I knew it long long long time ago. But Anyway if you are NOT a strong chess Player you can NOT answer my question, where did Rubichess went wrong? Since it was doing great during the middlegame, but somehow it played an inferior move or several during the endgame :shock: :mrgreen: :shock:
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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towforce wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:13 pm I doubt that NNs have a fixed value for pieces.
You could look at many positions and check the eval (NN or otherwise) before and after you remove a piece from that position. This way you could get the values which the eval thinks the pieces are worth.
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

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j.t. wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:11 pm
towforce wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:13 pm I doubt that NNs have a fixed value for pieces.
You could look at many positions and check the eval (NN or otherwise) before and after you remove a piece from that position. This way you could get the values which the eval thinks the pieces are worth.
Without the Queen it is about -7.57

FEN: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w - - 0 1

Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x:
NNUE evaluation using nn-5af11540bbfe.nnue enabled
1/1 00:00 92 92k -6.92 e2-e3
2/2 00:00 313 313k -6.92 e2-e3
3/3 00:00 747 747k -7.16 d2-d3 e7-e6
4/4 00:00 998 998k -7.15 d2-d3 b7-b6
5/4 00:00 2k 1,639k -7.15 Nb1-c3 e7-e6
6/5 00:00 3k 2,985k -7.20 e2-e3 e7-e6 h2-h4 c7-c6
7/7 00:00 7k 3,443k -7.15 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 e2-e3
8/8 00:00 16k 3,976k -7.26 Nb1-c3 d7-d6 e2-e3 h7-h5 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6
9/9 00:00 32k 4,584k -7.39 e2-e3 e7-e5 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 h2-h4
10/10 00:00 66k 4,733k -7.39 e2-e3 e7-e5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 a2-a3 h7-h5 Nc3-d5
11/10 00:00 97k 4,606k -7.38 e2-e3 e7-e5 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 d2-d4 Nb8-c6
12/12 00:00 174k 4,456k -7.42 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 Ng1-f3 d5-d4
13/13 00:00 286k 4,211k -7.46 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3 e7-e5 Ng1-f3 Nc6-b4 Bf1-d3 d7-d5 Nf3xe5
14/16 00:00 520k 4,445k -7.39 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 e7-e6 a2-a3 b7-b6 h2-h4 Bc8-b7 c2-c4
15/16 00:00 661k 4,237k -7.43 Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 a2-a3 d7-d6 Nb1-c3 e7-e5 e2-e3 h7-h5 h2-h4 g7-g6 Bf1-b5
16/18 00:00 844k 4,201k -7.47 d2-d4 Nb8-c6 e2-e3 e7-e6 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 Nb1-d2 h7-h5
17/17 00:00 1,243k 4,102k -7.43 d2-d4 Nb8-c6 e2-e3 e7-e6 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 a2-a3 a7-a6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 Nf3-e5
18/20 00:00 1,825k 4,082k -7.47 d2-d4 Nb8-c6 e2-e3 e7-e6 Ng1-f3 a7-a6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 h2-h4 Ng8-f6 h4-h5 Nc6-b4 Bf1-d3 c7-c5 a2-a3 c5-c4
19/22 00:00 2,524k 4,228k -7.42 d2-d4 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 c2-c3 f7-f6 Nb1-d2 e7-e6 e2-e4 Bf8-d6 Bf1-d3 Ng8-e7
20/22 00:00 3,523k 4,260k -7.50 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 e2-e3 c5xd4 e3xd4 h7-h5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 Bf1-d3 d7-d6 Bc1-e3 g7-g6 Ke1-f1 Bf8-g7 Ra1-b1 Nc6-b4
21/25 00:00 4,148k 4,294k -7.52 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 c2-c3 c5xd4 e3xd4 d7-d6 Nb1-d2 e7-e5 Bf1-d3 e5xd4 Ke1-f1 d4xc3
22/25 00:01 5,642k 4,245k -7.52 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 c2-c3 e7-e6 Nb1-d2 c5xd4 Nf3xd4 h7-h5 Nd4xc6 d7xc6 Bf1-e2 Nf6-g4 Be2xg4
23/26 00:01 8,243k 4,240k -7.56 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 d4xc5 e7-e6 e2-e3 Bf8xc5 Nb1-d2 Qd8-c7 a2-a3 Bc5-f8 c2-c4 Qc7-a5
24/26 00:02 10,525k 4,225k -7.52 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 d4xc5 e7-e6 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 a2-a3 Qd8-a5+ Nb1-c3 Qa5xc5 h2-h4 h7-h5 Nc3-b5 Qc5-b6 b2-b4 d7-d5 Bc1-b2 Nf6-g4 c2-c4 a7-a6
25/28 00:03 13,149k 4,181k -7.54 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 d4xc5 e7-e6 e2-e3 Bf8xc5 a2-a3 a7-a5 Bc1-d2 Nb8-c6 Bd2-c3 d7-d5 Bc3xf6 Qd8xf6 Nb1-c3 Qf6-g6 Nc3-a4
26/30 00:04 16,924k 4,146k -7.49 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 d4xc5 e7-e6 e2-e3 Bf8xc5 a2-a3 d7-d5 b2-b4 Bc5-f8 Bc1-b2 a7-a5 h2-h4 h7-h5 Bb2xf6 Qd8xf6 Bf1-b5+ Nb8-c6
27/34 00:04 19,324k 4,155k -7.52 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 d4xc5 e7-e6 e2-e3 Bf8xc5 a2-a3 a7-a5 b2-b3 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 Nc3-a4 Bc5-d6 Bc1-b2 h7-h5 c2-c4 d5xc4 Bf1xc4
28/32 00:06 26,160k 4,165k -7.52 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 c7-c5 d4xc5 e7-e6 e2-e3 Bf8xc5 a2-a3 a7-a5 b2-b3 d7-d5 Bc1-b2 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3 h7-h5 h2-h4 Ke8-f8 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 c2-c4 Rh8-h6 Ra1-d1 Kf8-g8 c4xd5 e6xd5
29/37 00:07 31,849k 4,153k -7.56 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 a2-a3 c7-c5 e2-e3 b7-b6 h2-h4 h7-h5 c2-c4 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3 Nc6-a5 Ra1-b1 Bc8-b7 b2-b3 c5xd4 e3xd4 d7-d5 c4xd5 Nf6xd5 Bf1-b5+ Na5-c6
30/34 00:09 40,147k 4,161k -7.56 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 e2-e3 c7-c5 d4xc5 Bf8xc5 a2-a3 a7-a5 Nb1-c3 h7-h5 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 h2-h4 Ke8-f8 b2-b3 d7-d5 Bc1-b2 Rh8-h6 c2-c4 Nb8-c6 Bb2xf6 Be7xf6 Ra1-d1
31/31 00:11 48,356k 4,143k -7.56 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 a2-a3 c7-c5 d4xc5 Bf8xc5 e2-e3 a7-a5 Nb1-c3 h7-h5 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 h2-h4 Ke8-f8 b2-b3 d7-d5 Bc1-b2 Rh8-h6 c2-c4 Nb8-c6 Ra1-d1 Kf8-g8 c4xd5 e6xd5
32/39 00:16 66,583k 4,137k -7.60 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 e2-e3 h7-h5 a2-a3 c7-c5 d4xc5 a7-a5 Nb1-c3 Bf8xc5 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 h2-h4 Ke8-f8 b2-b3 Nb8-c6 Bc1-b2 Rh8-h6 Ra1-d1 Kf8-g8 c2-c4 d7-d5 Bf1-e2 Nf6-g4 c4xd5 e6xd5 Na4-c3
33/38 00:18 75,123k 4,119k -7.56 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 e2-e3 c7-c5 d4xc5 Bf8xc5 a2-a3 a7-a5 Nb1-c3 h7-h5 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 h2-h4 Ke8-f8 c2-c4 d7-d5 b2-b3 Kf8-g8 Bc1-b2 Nb8-c6 Ra1-d1 Rh8-h6 c4xd5 e6xd5 Na4-c3 Qd8-b6 Nc3-b5 a5-a4 b3xa4 Ra8xa4
34/37 00:23 94,936k 4,097k -7.57 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 e2-e3 c7-c5 d4xc5 Bf8xc5 a2-a3 a7-a5 Nb1-c3 h7-h5 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 c2-c4 Ke8-f8 Bf1-d3 Nb8-c6 b2-b3 d7-d5 Bc1-b2 d5xc4 Bd3xc4 h5-h4 Ra1-d1 Qd8-c7 Ke1-e2 Bc8-d7 h2-h3 Rh8-h5
35/43 00:39 158,828k 4,059k -7.56 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 h7-h5 Ng1-f3 e7-e6 a2-a3 d7-d5 c2-c4 c7-c5 d4xc5 Bf8xc5 Nb1-c3 a7-a5 c4xd5 e6xd5 Bc1-d2 Nb8-c6 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 Bd2-c3 Ke8-f8 Bc3xf6 Be7xf6 Ra1-d1 Bc8-g4 Bf1-e2 Rh8-h6 Ke1-f1 Bg4xf3 Be2xf3
36/43 00:42 172,132k 4,044k -7.57 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 e2-e3 e7-e6 a2-a3 h7-h5 c2-c4 c7-c5 d4xc5 a7-a5 Nb1-c3 Bf8xc5 Bc1-d2 Nb8-c6 c4xd5 e6xd5 Nc3-a4 Bc5-e7 Bd2-c3 h5-h4 Nf3-d4 Ke8-f8 Nd4xc6 b7xc6 Bc3-d4
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

Post by Chessqueen »

Without Booth Rooks it is about -7.33
NOTE: Stockfish value the Queen slightly better by .24, Last Sunday I ask most expert players from a Club which side they prefer, and all of them selected the side with both Rooks
:roll:

FEN: rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/1NBQKBN1 w - - 0 1

Stockfish-windows-x86-64-avx2x:
NNUE evaluation using nn-5af11540bbfe.nnue enabled
1/1 00:00 84 84k -6.06 e2-e3
2/2 00:00 238 238k -6.06 e2-e3
3/3 00:00 419 419k -6.28 e2-e4 e7-e6
4/4 00:00 616 616k -6.38 d2-d4 g7-g6
5/3 00:00 894 447k -6.24 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 e2-e4
6/4 00:00 1k 722k -6.34 e2-e4 e7-e5 Nb1-c3
7/5 00:00 8k 2,516k -6.56 e2-e4 Nb8-c6 d2-d4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 b7-b6
8/6 00:00 12k 2,956k -6.57 Nb1-c3 e7-e5 d2-d4 Nb8-c6
9/8 00:00 19k 3,884k -6.56 e2-e3 d7-d5 Qd1-f3 e7-e6
10/8 00:00 47k 4,288k -6.74 e2-e3 h7-h5 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Ng1-f3 g7-g5
11/10 00:00 66k 4,418k -6.60 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 d2-d4 d7-d5 Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 e2-e3 h7-h5
12/11 00:00 137k 4,146k -6.76 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 Ng1-f3 d5-d4 Nc3-b5 Ng8-f6
13/14 00:00 229k 4,021k -6.79 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 d2-d4 c7-c6 e2-e4 d5xe4 Nc3xe4 h7-h5
14/13 00:00 462k 3,982k -6.88 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 e2-e4 d7-d5 Qd1-f3 d5xe4 Nc3xe4 c7-c6
15/16 00:00 942k 4,204k -6.83 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 d7-d5 c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 h7-h5 c4xd5 e6xd5
16/16 00:00 1,476k 4,252k -6.92 d2-d4 e7-e6 e2-e4 d7-d5 e4xd5 Qd8xd5 Nb1-c3 Bf8-b4 Qd1-g4 Ke8-f8 Ke1-d1 Qd5-a5
17/20 00:00 2,063k 4,380k -6.94 d2-d4 d7-d5 c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 c7-c6 Bf1-d3 h7-h5 c4xd5 e6xd5 Ke1-f1 Qd8-c7 Ng1-f3 Bc8-g4
18/23 00:00 2,985k 4,415k -6.97 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 d7-d5 c2-c4 Nb8-c6 Nb1-c3 e7-e6 Bf1-d3 a7-a6 c4xd5 e6xd5
19/20 00:00 3,351k 4,358k -6.93 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 e7-e6 c2-c4 d7-d5 Nb1-c3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 Bf8-b4 c4xd5 e6xd5 Bf1-b5 h7-h5 Bc1-d2 a7-a6 Bb5xc6+ b7xc6 Nf3-e5
20/22 00:00 3,833k 4,292k -6.97 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 e2-e3 e7-e6 Bf1-d3 d7-d5 Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 Ke1-f1 h7-h5 Kf1-g1 Nc6-b4 Nb1-c3 c7-c6 e3-e4 d5xe4
21/24 00:01 5,488k 4,231k -6.89 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 e7-e6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 Bf8-b4 c4xd5 e6xd5 Bf1-b5 h7-h5 Ke1-f1 Ke8-f8
22/24 00:01 8,059k 4,233k -7.03 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 d7-d5 Nb1-c3 c7-c6 c4xd5 c6xd5 Bc1-f4 Nf6-e4 e2-e3 Qd8-a5 Bf1-d3 Ne4xc3 b2xc3 Qa5xc3+ Ke1-f1 Nb8-c6 Ng1-e2 Qc3-b2
23/24 00:02 10,525k 4,263k -7.01 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 d7-d5 Nb1-c3 c7-c6 Ng1-f3 Bc8-f5 Bc1-f4 Nb8-d7 g2-g3 h7-h5 c4xd5
24/29 00:03 14,873k 4,165k -7.15 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 d7-d5 Nb1-c3 c7-c6 c4xd5 c6xd5 Bc1-f4 Nb8-c6 e2-e3 Qd8-a5 Bf1-d3 Nf6-e4 Bd3xe4 d5xe4 Ke1-f1 g7-g5 Bf4-g3 h7-h5 h2-h4 g5xh4 Bg3xh4
25/29 00:04 20,457k 4,101k -7.19 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 c4xd5 c6xd5 Bc1-f4 Nb8-c6 e2-e3 Bc8-f5 Bf1-e2 e7-e6 Ke1-f1 Ra8-c8 Ng1-f3 h7-h5 a2-a3 Nf6-e4 Nc3xe4 Bf5xe4 Nf3-g5
26/28 00:10 43,512k 4,039k -7.25 Ng1-f3 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 c7-c6 Nb1-c3 d7-d5 e2-e3 Bc8-f5 c4xd5 Nf6xd5 d2-d3 Nb8-d7 Bc1-d2 e7-e6 e3-e4 Nd5xc3 b2xc3 h7-h5 Qd1-b3
27/34 00:12 49,314k 4,030k -7.18 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 d7-d5 Nb1-c3 c7-c6 c4xd5 c6xd5 Bc1-f4 Nb8-c6 e2-e3 Bc8-f5 Bf1-b5 a7-a6 Bb5xc6+ b7xc6 Ke1-f1 h7-h5 Qd1-b3 Bf5-d3+ Nc3-e2
28/35 00:16 67,704k 4,032k -7.29 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 d7-d5 Nb1-c3 c7-c6 Ng1-f3 Bc8-f5 g2-g3 e7-e6 Bf1-g2 h7-h5 Qd1-a4 Nb8-d7 Ke1-f1 Qd8-b6
29/30 00:21 85,024k 4,015k -7.31 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 c2-c4 d7-d5 Nb1-c3 c7-c6 Ng1-f3 Bc8-f5 g2-g3 e7-e6 Bf1-g2 h7-h5 Ke1-f1 h5-h4 Bc1-g5 h4-h3 Bg2-h1 Nb8-d7 Bg5-f4 Nf6-e4 Nc3xe4 Bf5xe4 c4xd5
30/35 00:34 138,560k 4,006k -7.31 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 a2-a3 d7-d5 Bc1-f4 Nf6-e4 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 Bc8-f5 Nb1-d2 e7-e6 c2-c4 g7-g5 c4xd5 e6xd5 Nd2xe4 g5xf4 Ne4-c3 f4xe3 Qd1-b3 e3xf2+ Ke1xf2
31/38 00:40 160,730k 4,015k -7.33 d2-d4 Ng8-f6 a2-a3 d7-d5 Bc1-f4 Nf6-e4 e2-e3 Nb8-c6 Ng1-f3 Bc8-f5 Nb1-d2 e7-e6 c2-c4 g7-g5 c4xd5 e6xd5 Bf4-g3 Ne4xg3 h2xg3 h7-h5 Qd1-b3 Ra8-b8 Qb3-a4 a7-a6 Nf3-e5 Ke8-e7 Nd2-f3 g5-g4
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Re: Which is the real worth of the Queen?

Post by j.t. »

Yes, that's the idea, except you need to a average the value over many (thousands to millions) positions.