After -7 (very bad Wasp game) Wasp won in 19 moves to mate vs. Koivisto!

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After -7 (very bad Wasp game) Wasp won in 19 moves to mate vs. Koivisto!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hello there,

1. I have never seen that before ...
So fast such a bad position of Wasp ...

:-(

2. Never seen that before ...
So fast such an advantage from Koivisto ... really not an attacker!
Koivisto switched to attacking mode against my favourite engine ... Cheekines!

But at the end of the game a mistake from Koivisto and mate in 19 ...
At least I can remember, in the last 10 years (games without resign mode), one time I saw a win with mate before 20.

Not a win goes into the great history of fast wins of Wasp!
Curious at all, should sleep on this time (have to working prof. in a few hours, 02:00 in Germany) ... game ended for 15 minutes and I saw all this in live on my big TV. In other words ... mate in 19 and nothing is really nice!

OK, 10. Ne5 was strong and 13 ... Nxh1 not a good idea for Wasp and with move 18. such a blunder?!
I saw several mistakes in 9.2 dev by Koivisto 9.2. Maybe not a good idea to use this version of Koivisto for my tourney (means the dev). Not tested this before, honestly.

Wrote these days about underpromotion, but some other bugs more are in the dev of Koivisto.

Not important ... much more for me what Wasp is doing here!
A quick loss by Wasp is really very, very rare, so morally the point goes to Koivisto and I am not happy about it.

[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 20 min"] [Site "fcp-tourney-2024, WASP-3"] [Date "2023.12.12"] [Round "14.27"] [White "Koivisto 9.2 NN dev"] [Black "Wasp 6.61 NN dev"] [Result "0-1"] 1. d4 {book 0s} Nc6 {book 0s} 2. c4 {book 0s} d5 {book 0s} 3. Nc3 {book 0s} dxc4 {book 0s} 4. Nf3 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 5. Bg5 {book 0s} h6 {book 0s} 6. Bh4 {book 0s} a6 {book 0s} 7. e4 {+0.32/29 15s} g5 {+0.33/25 57s} 8. Bg3 {+0.50/31 21s} Bg7 {+0.22/25 25s} 9. Bxc4 {+0.80/31 22s} Nh5 {+0.23/25 25s} 10. Ne5 {+1.92/31 17s (Be5)} Nxg3 {-0.36/25 25s} 11. Bxf7+ {+1.67/34 26s (Nxc6)} Kf8 {-0.51/6 0s} 12. Nxc6 {+1.90/33 14s} bxc6 {-1.33/23 26s} 13. Bb3 {+1.94/34 22s (fxg3)} Nxh1 {-3.55/24 26s} 14. Qf3+ {+6.99/28 24s} Bf6 {-4.13/24 27s} 15. e5 {+7.21/30 31s (O-O-O)} Qxd4 {-5.22/25 27s} 16. exf6 {+7.76/29 38s} Bg4 {-5.50/26 27s} 17. fxe7+ {+12.99/29 25s (Ne2)} Kxe7 {-6.41/25 27s} 18. Qxc6 {+13.32/28 12s (Qe4+)} Qxf2# {-M1/1 0s} 0-1[/pgn]

This is really not my tournament.
Time to start the next one with other conditions and better test what I should use and where I should put my hands from it.
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Re: After -7 (very bad Wasp game) Wasp won in 19 moves to mate vs. Koivisto!

Post by petero2 »

Frank Quisinsky wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:06 am Not important ... much more for me what Wasp is doing here!
A quick loss by Wasp is really very, very rare, so morally the point goes to Koivisto and I am not happy about it.
According to Stockfish analysis, all moves played by Wasp were good. Koivisto 9.2 is broken. It was fixed in the source code on github a few days after the 9.2 version was created, but I guess you have the broken version.

Morally the point goes to no engine, because Wasp was simply playing reasonable moves against a badly broken engine.
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Re: After -7 (very bad Wasp game) Wasp won in 19 moves to mate vs. Koivisto!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Peter,

yes, not saw the hotfix 9.2 version. I have indeed the older version in my tourney.

:-(

I will changed for the last games in the tourney to the hotfix version.
Wasp game will be replay.

Thanks for the hint!
Explain a lot.

Best
Frank
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Re: After -7 (very bad Wasp game) Wasp won in 19 moves to mate vs. Koivisto!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi,

shit happen, sorry!

Not a good idea ...
I think Koivisto should replayed all games with the Hotfix version.
Mistake by myself if a hotfix version is available ... tomotoes on the eyes.
Three pounds at a time (tomotoes).

Will do that after round 14 and all stats from round 1-14, available in my download file again.
The penalty for blindness.

Peter, thanks again!

Best
Frank
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Re: After -7 (very bad Wasp game) Wasp won in 19 moves to mate vs. Koivisto!

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Hi there,

I can make an event with __my-blunder__ ...
Koivisto 9.2 dev (hotfix) and Altair 6.0.0 to the same time.
And the Chess-World is fully OK in Gutweiler, Germany.

:-)

The only problem, my MA (move-average) tourney without the "long-dreamers" will be start end of the year.

Best
Frank
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Re: After -7 (very bad Wasp game) Wasp won in 19 moves to mate vs. Koivisto!

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Ah ...

I say "long-dreamers ... the dream from a win and the games runs and runs and runs ... 200-400 moves"

I mean "long-movers".
"long-dreamers" is intern.

:-)

Best
Frank