Time to immigrate to another forum?

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With all the current troubles through the years isn't it wise to move to another forum?

Yes.
51
45%
No.
44
39%
Undecided.
18
16%
 
Total votes: 113

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Steve Maughan
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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

Post by Steve Maughan »

Rebel wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:39 pm We have reached an agreement with the CSVN as our new host and new stable partner for years, decades. This week or next week we are going to meet and sign the contract. Thereafter the FG (HGM, Chris and me) will write a public document to be posted here about the inner work of the FG, the role of the admin, the role of moderators and more.

The idea is that when the new forum arises from the ashes the FG for the time being will be the moderators and when the forum is working smoothly the FG will call for moderator elections.

FG = Founders Group.
Great! Many thanks to you, Chris and HGM for doing this.

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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

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Steve Maughan wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:54 pm
Rebel wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:39 pm We have reached an agreement with the CSVN as our new host and new stable partner for years, decades. This week or next week we are going to meet and sign the contract. Thereafter the FG (HGM, Chris and me) will write a public document to be posted here about the inner work of the FG, the role of the admin, the role of moderators and more.

The idea is that when the new forum arises from the ashes the FG for the time being will be the moderators and when the forum is working smoothly the FG will call for moderator elections.

FG = Founders Group.
Great! Many thanks to you, Chris and HGM for doing this.

Steve
+1 Super, guys!
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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

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Eelco de Groot wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:20 pm
Steve Maughan wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:54 pm
Rebel wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:39 pm We have reached an agreement with the CSVN as our new host and new stable partner for years, decades. This week or next week we are going to meet and sign the contract. Thereafter the FG (HGM, Chris and me) will write a public document to be posted here about the inner work of the FG, the role of the admin, the role of moderators and more.

The idea is that when the new forum arises from the ashes the FG for the time being will be the moderators and when the forum is working smoothly the FG will call for moderator elections.

FG = Founders Group.
Great! Many thanks to you, Chris and HGM for doing this.

Steve
+1 Super, guys!
December 2 and 3 (saturday/sunday) CSVN will host their tournament in Zundert. Maybe we can celebrate this agreement there with a nice cup of coffee or a beer? And while your at it, let your own program participate? :D
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Thanks for the update and the perseverance to make things better.
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Thanks! But wonder how and why the poll develops...+/-

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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

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Rebel wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:39 pm We have reached an agreement with the CSVN as our new host and new stable partner for years, decades. This week or next week we are going to meet and sign the contract. Thereafter the FG (HGM, Chris and me) will write a public document to be posted here about the inner work of the FG, the role of the admin, the role of moderators and more.

The idea is that when the new forum arises from the ashes the FG for the time being will be the moderators and when the forum is working smoothly the FG will call for moderator elections.

FG = Founders Group.
What kind of progress has been made in the meantime?
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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

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We hope ChessUSA will complete the transfer of the domain name talkchess.com to the CSVN this week.
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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

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Rebel wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:26 am We hope ChessUSA will complete the transfer of the domain name talkchess.com to the CSVN this week.
Will a completely new forum be started, with this one as an archive, or are we keeping this particular forum and migrate it?

PS: I'm willing to donate some money each year to keep the forum running. I often use information on/from the internet that was posted years or even decades ago. With Discord, all information is at some point lost.

PS: I remember that the old newsgroups are also archived somewhere, but I lost that link. Anybody have this; does it still exist? Google Groups sometimes finds those old posts, but that service seems to be winding down. It is read-only. (PicoChess had an active group, that is now effectively dead because it's not possible to post in it anymore.)
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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

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Hello Marcel:
mvanthoor wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:45 pm[...]

PS: I remember that the old newsgroups are also archived somewhere, but I lost that link. Anybody have this; does it still exist? Google Groups sometimes finds those old posts, but that service seems to be winding down. It is read-only. (PicoChess had an active group, that is now effectively dead because it's not possible to post in it anymore.)
There are some links at CPW:

Computer Chess Forums - Chessprogramming wiki
CPW wrote:[...]

News groups

Unmoderated newsgroups contain a lot of spam, but also a lot of valuable posts of the pre-CCC area in the archives:
[...]
I hope this is what you are looking for.

Regards from Spain.

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Re: Time to immigrate to another forum?

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Hi Marcel,
mvanthoor wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:45 pm Will a completely new forum be started, with this one as an archive, or are we keeping this particular forum and migrate it?
Both, that is, we will keep the domain name talkchess.com, move to a new server, import the current database and hopefully everything will function as it should be.
mvanthoor wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:45 pm PS: I'm willing to donate some money each year to keep the forum running. I often use information on/from the internet that was posted years or even decades ago. With Discord, all information is at some point lost.
Thanks for the offer, we will keep it in mind. Moving to a new server is not expensive and the CSVN pays for the yearly costs of the domain name.
mvanthoor wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:45 pm PS: I remember that the old newsgroups are also archived somewhere, but I lost that link. Anybody have this; does it still exist? Google Groups sometimes finds those old posts, but that service seems to be winding down. It is read-only. (PicoChess had an active group, that is now effectively dead because it's not possible to post in it anymore.)
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