New Berserk soon?

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Chessqueen
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Re: New Berserk 13 released?

Post by Chessqueen »

Chris Formula wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:06 pm
PaulieD wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:27 am
Chris Formula wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:17 am Berserk 20240324 :D
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1szIS9U ... sp=sharing
This Berserk needs dll's to run, they are not included.
uploaded a new compile (same link). let me know if that works.

They should have waited until versdion 13 is at least 15 elo stronger :roll:

Rank Engine Score Be Be S-B
1 Berserk-13-avx2 15.0/30 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ===============1=======0====== 225.00
1 Berserk-12-x64-avx2 15.0/30 ===============0=======1====== · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 225.00

30 games played / Tournament is finished

Tournament start: 2024.03.31, 01:29:11
Latest update: 2024.03.31, 02:35:17
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-4QNC0GS, United States
Level: Blitz 0/3
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 15.9 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
Russian believe that they are special, that they can Kill thousands of Ukranian civilians, but cry like babies when a few Russian...
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Rank Engine Score Be Be S-B
1 Berserk-13-avx2-pext 15.0/30 · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ===============0=======0====== 225.00
1 Stockfish_14.1_win_x64_avx2 15.0/30 ============================== · ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· ·· 225.00

30 games played / Tournament is finished

Tournament start: 2024.03.31, 10:19:11
Latest update: 2024.03.31, 11:45:57
Site/ Country: DESKTOP-4QNC0GS, United States
Level: Blitz 0/3
Hardware: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz with 15.9 GB Memory
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Home Edition (Build 9200) 64 bit
Table created with: Arena 3.5.1
Russian believe that they are special, that they can Kill thousands of Ukranian civilians, but cry like babies when a few Russian...
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Re: New Berserk soon?

Post by Uri Blass »

My own tournament of 13 against 12 showed the following results that I hope are reproducable:
The berserk13 team won 4-1 with 11 draws or 9.5-6.5(test conditions no book and fixed nodes per move and 256M hash for every engine with a single core for every engine).
13 played only against 12 so every engine got 8 games because it played white and black against 4 opponents.

1)Berserk13 8M 5.5 rating 75
2)Bersrek12 8M 4.5 rating 38
3)Berserk13 1M 4.5 rating 16
4)Berserk13 4M 4 rating -11
5-6)Berserk12 2M 3.5 rating -17
5-6)Berserk12 4M 3.5 rating -17
7)Berserk13 2M 3.5 rating -38
8)Berserk12 1M 3 rating -46

only white won the following games:
Berserk13 8M against Berserk12 1M(74 moves),2M(69 moves),4M(127 moves)
Berserk12 8M against Berserk13 2M(107 moves)
Berserk13 1M against Berserk12 1M(112 moves)

From the tournament:

[pgn][Event "Computer event"]
[Site "Somewhere on Earth"]
[Date "2024.03.31"]
[Time "23:18:15"]
[Round "3"]
[Board "22"]
[White "Berserk 13 8M nodes"]
[Black "Berserk 12 4M nodes"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Termination "mate"]
[ECO "B63"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[TimeControl "depth: 4;depth: 3"]
[PlyCount "253"]

1.e4 {+0.4/27 8817 7443723 186/776/38} c5 {+0.3/23 3924 3072325 19/888/93} 2.Nf3 {+0.5/27 8533 7918484 219/753/28} d6 {+0.4/26 3971 3976442 14/879/107}
3.d4 {+0.3/28 8441 7513060 146/815/39} cxd4 {+0.5/26 3950 3881935 8/837/155} 4.Nxd4 {+0.3/29 8645 7925948 132/829/39} Nf6 {+0.4/25 4128 3339229 9/877/114}
5.Nc3 {+0.5/28 8131 7179462 185/792/23} Nc6 {+0.4/24 4090 3330426 8/878/114} 6.Bg5 {+0.4/28 8286 7296103 158/818/24} e6 {+0.5/24 4103 3791256 6/873/121}
7.Qd2 {+0.4/27 8307 7552874 143/834/23} Be7 {+0.5/26 4114 3227749 5/876/119} 8.O-O-O {+0.4/28 8368 6968570 135/844/21; B63: Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer, Rauzer attack, 7...Be7} O-O {+0.6/24 3997 3939324 3/848/149}
9.Nb3 {+0.5/28 7935 7949929 199/790/11} Qb6 {+0.3/26 4020 3606484 6/922/72} 10.Kb1 {+0.6/30 7790 7277156 240/752/8} Rd8 {+0.3/25 3712 3165228 5/925/70}
11.h4 {+0.5/30 7703 6844390 189/802/9} d5 {+0.5/24 3949 3502688 2/869/129} 12.Bxf6 {+0.6/31 7733 6634331 215/779/6} Bxf6 {+0.6/26 3944 3595608 1/824/175}
13.exd5 {+0.5/31 7553 7896775 152/840/8} Bxc3 {+0.6/27 3647 3605605 1/841/158} 14.Qxc3 {+0.5/33 7773 6316063 157/837/6} exd5 {+0.5/27 3799 3480811 1/880/119}
15.Qc5 {+0.5/28 8115 5653568 149/845/6} Qxc5 {+0.6/26 4181 3780275 1/844/155} 16.Nxc5 {+0.4/27 7869 6717431 116/878/6} d4 {+0.6/27 3713 3354961 1/861/138}
17.Rd2 {+0.4/28 7589 7149486 103/891/6} Rd5 {+0.6/27 3535 3946407 1/864/135} 18.Nb3 {+0.6/29 7681 7983828 166/831/3} Bf5 {+0.6/27 4265 3591008 0/834/166}
19.Be2 {+0.6/30 7715 6625819 158/839/3} Rd6 {+0.6/27 3613 3707488 1/883/116} 20.Rhd1 {+0.5/30 7350 7873104 133/864/3} Rad8 {+0.6/27 3830 3909945 0/863/137}
21.Nc5 {+0.5/30 7670 8000468 118/880/2} Na5 {+0.5/26 4207 3957680 1/910/89} 22.Bd3 {+0.5/30 7683 6987329 116/882/2} b6 {+0.5/28 3953 3854527 1/933/66}
23.Nb3 {+0.4/30 8065 5804402 68/929/3} Nxb3 {+0.5/25 3922 3722192 1/926/73} 24.axb3 {+0.4/29 7976 7040258 80/918/2} Bg4 {+0.5/27 3993 2988073 1/913/86}
25.f3 {+0.5/30 7859 7866548 108/891/1} Bc8 {+0.6/24 3875 2345158 0/899/101} 26.c4 {+0.5/28 7820 7700257 102/897/1} a5 {+0.7/27 4112 3885425 0/819/181}
27.Ka2 {+0.5/34 7958 6768221 77/922/1} Kf8 {+0.6/26 3694 3660484 0/896/104} 28.Ka3 {+0.4/36 7444 7610223 68/931/1} Rh6 {+0.6/27 3842 3837428 0/894/106}
29.g3 {+0.5/30 7861 7725218 75/924/1} Bb7 {+0.6/28 3884 3414168 0/906/94} 30.f4 {+0.4/31 7684 6987386 54/945/1} Re6 {+0.6/27 3892 3138546 0/867/133}
31.Bf5 {+0.4/32 7615 6180572 54/945/1} Red6 {+0.6/27 3997 3362666 0/902/98} 32.b4 {+0.4/32 7742 7793470 51/948/1} axb4+ {+0.5/29 3832 3955711 0/925/75}
33.Kxb4 {+0.5/33 7660 7613032 61/938/1} g6 {+0.4/30 3899 3545445 1/942/57} 34.Bd3 {+0.4/31 7387 7517610 47/952/1} Kg7 {+0.4/27 3651 3709618 1/956/43}
35.Re1 {+0.4/32 7111 7547352 41/958/1} Bc8 {+0.5/31 3680 3015700 1/926/73} 36.b3 {+0.4/35 6911 4505126 39/960/1} Bg4 {+0.6/28 3741 3270524 0/890/110}
37.Re5 {+0.5/32 6628 7295431 61/939/0} h5 {+0.5/28 3504 3912090 1/914/85} 38.Rb5 {+0.5/33 6826 7229252 65/935/0} Bf3 {+0.6/30 3527 3548760 0/873/127}
39.Rg5 {+0.6/32 7418 7043707 83/917/0} Re8 {+0.6/31 3355 3277190 0/870/130} 40.Re5 {+0.4/31 6921 6830149 36/963/1} Red8 {+0.5/30 3359 3876059 1/918/81}
41.Ra2 {+0.7/31 7082 7682837 150/850/0} Bg4 {+0.5/29 3674 3806652 1/930/69} 42.Ka3 {+0.6/31 7596 7738933 90/910/0} Re6 {+0.7/26 3753 3823601 0/832/168}
43.Rxe6 {+0.6/35 6875 7927310 86/914/0} Bxe6 {+0.7/29 3536 3819382 0/802/198} 44.Re2 {+0.5/32 6566 7374459 68/932/0} Kf8 {+0.8/30 3592 3996004 0/760/240}
45.Kb2 {+0.6/34 6754 7621911 91/909/0} Kg7 {+0.7/30 3421 3357323 0/812/188} 46.Be4 {+0.9/31 6380 6998077 325/675/0} Bh3 {+0.9/27 3394 3843057 0/689/311}
47.Rd2 {+1.1/31 6192 7732265 582/418/0} Kf6 {+0.9/28 3535 3892920 0/698/302} 48.Kc2 {+1.2/33 6023 7166182 695/305/0} Rd7 {+1.0/28 3254 3146143 0/596/404}
49.Kd3 {+1.1/35 6460 7171294 678/322/0} Bf1+ {+1.0/26 3573 1692140 0/584/416} 50.Kc2 {+1.1/36 5971 6854147 543/457/0} Bh3 {+1.1/28 3076 3847514 0/523/477}
51.Rf2 {+1.2/36 5952 6653182 742/258/0} Re7 {+0.9/28 3399 1337502 0/680/320} 52.Kd3 {+1.2/36 5963 6816436 714/286/0} Rd7 {+1.1/30 3137 3909739 0/562/438}
53.Bd5 {+1.3/35 6030 7226178 804/196/0} Kf5 {+1.2/28 3062 3867383 0/407/593} 54.Bf3 {+1.3/35 5846 7268439 815/185/0} Kf6 {+1.1/30 3178 3996582 0/570/430}
55.Be4 {+1.4/36 5847 7769476 856/144/0} Rd8 {+1.3/28 2977 3604149 0/368/632} 56.Bd5 {+1.4/35 6667 7948256 863/137/0} Kf5 {+1.2/29 3031 3936349 0/437/563}
57.Bf3 {+1.4/35 5455 6399920 849/151/0} Rd7 {+1.3/29 3169 3853141 0/399/601} 58.b4 {+1.4/33 6232 7780761 882/118/0} Rd6 {+1.3/28 3813 2892870 0/399/601}
59.b5 {+1.3/31 7478 7356718 789/211/0} Ke6 {+1.3/29 3738 3686216 0/404/596} 60.Re2+ {+1.0/33 6392 7483867 477/523/0} Kf6 {+1.0/33 3402 3566612 1/641/358}
61.Re1 {+1.7/37 6382 7738705 950/50/0} Bf5+ {+1.3/31 3408 3979687 0/434/566} 62.Be4 {+1.8/36 5935 7335315 972/28/0} Be6 {+1.2/32 3260 3612890 1/491/508}
63.Bg2 {+1.6/35 5978 7602305 940/60/0} Bf5+ {+1.6/30 3081 3349182 0/271/729} 64.Be4 {+1.6/40 6226 7991565 907/93/0} Be6 {+1.4/31 3169 3232171 0/363/637}
65.Rc1 {+1.7/40 5905 7756060 953/47/0} Ke7 {+1.5/32 2987 2460753 0/319/681} 66.c5 {+2.0/38 5520 7565615 986/14/0} bxc5 {+1.5/34 3091 3593736 0/349/651}
67.Rxc5 {+2.1/38 5479 7886419 992/8/0} Bd7 {+1.8/32 3255 3837281 0/199/801} 68.Bc6 {+2.2/37 5253 6092108 993/7/0} Bxc6 {+1.9/30 2897 3980584 0/173/827}
69.Rxc6 {+2.3/41 5270 7561094 995/5/0} Rd5 {+1.7/32 3126 3990390 0/271/729} 70.b6 {+2.1/41 5649 7949944 987/13/0} f6 {+1.8/31 3339 1335208 0/218/782}
71.Rc7+ {+2.5/38 4028 7162290 997/3/0} Kd6 {+1.8/35 3050 3457618 0/227/773} 72.Rf7 {+2.7/42 4098 7840135 999/1/0} Ke6 {+1.8/36 2973 3119198 0/248/752}
73.b7 {+2.8/35 2814 7650076 999/1/0} Rb5 {+1.8/35 2558 2281969 0/276/724} 74.Kc4 {+2.8/37 3317 7953776 999/1/0} Rb6 {+1.8/35 2932 3260347 0/257/743}
75.Rh7 {+3.1/38 3475 7671230 1000/0/0} d3 {+1.8/35 2794 2409708 0/266/734} 76.Kxd3 {+3.2/37 3214 7271630 1000/0/0} Kd5 {+1.8/34 2201 3279050 0/268/732}
77.Rg7 {+3.2/38 3857 7885494 1000/0/0} f5 {+1.9/26 1433 2371102 0/226/774} 78.Kc3 {+3.2/42 3323 7273646 1000/0/0} Rb5 {+1.8/29 2024 3264500 1/316/683}
79.Rxg6 {+3.3/38 3209 7801339 1000/0/0} Rxb7 {+2.2/27 1880 3490224 0/153/847} 80.Rg5 {+3.4/33 2701 4905267 1000/0/0} Ke6 {+2.3/26 1673 2326118 0/124/876}
81.Rxh5 {+3.6/37 3207 7800515 1000/0/0} Kf6 {+2.5/27 1935 2727192 0/96/904} 82.Kd2 {+3.8/39 3272 7511028 1000/0/0} Rg7 {+2.7/27 1555 2605828 0/68/932}
83.Rg5 {+3.8/43 3521 6395900 1000/0/0} Re7 {+2.9/31 2126 3395622 0/50/950} 84.h5 {+4.0/38 3054 7867627 1000/0/0} Re8 {+2.9/30 1700 936312 0/52/948}
85.Kd3 {+4.1/40 3178 6205401 1000/0/0} Re7 {+3.0/28 1967 3298636 0/42/958} 86.h6 {+4.3/40 4970 6829127 1000/0/0} Rh7 {+3.8/26 2982 3642532 0/9/991}
87.Rh5 {+5.0/36 3230 7860214 1000/0/0} Kg6 {+4.3/25 2088 3752682 0/3/997} 88.Rh1 {+5.3/34 3140 7988154 1000/0/0} Rd7+ {+4.3/27 1881 3615231 0/3/997}
89.Ke3 {+5.3/38 3327 6598014 1000/0/0} Re7+ {+4.4/25 1804 3914245 0/3/997} 90.Kd4 {+5.5/37 3216 7786438 1000/0/0} Kh7 {+4.4/27 1731 826031 0/4/996}
91.Rh5 {+5.5/33 3040 7756122 1000/0/0} Re4+ {+4.4/24 1381 730638 0/3/997} 92.Kd3 {+5.6/35 2972 7509914 1000/0/0} Rb4 {+4.6/22 1442 1743979 0/2/998}
93.Ke3 {+6.0/32 2998 7775070 1000/0/0} Rb3+ {+4.5/22 1302 3019671 0/3/997} 94.Kf2 {+6.4/30 3040 7519795 1000/0/0} Rb5 {+4.9/21 1422 2085860 0/2/998}
95.Kg2 {+6.6/34 3026 6376891 1000/0/0} Rb1 {+5.2/23 1694 1459914 0/1/999} 96.Rxf5 {+7.0/34 2980 7373382 1000/0/0} Kxh6 {+5.6/26 1696 3447500 0/0/1000}
97.Rg5 {+7.1/33 2447 6874912 1000/0/0} Kh7 {+5.7/24 1557 2164032 0/0/1000} 98.Kh3 {+7.3/35 2534 7711796 1000/0/0} Rb8 {+5.8/21 1377 1221442 0/0/1000}
99.Kg4 {+7.7/31 2599 7348471 1000/0/0} Rb6 {+6.4/22 1529 3590056 0/0/1000} 100.Re5 {+8.3/32 2762 7738624 1000/0/0} Kh6 {+6.7/23 1661 2659954 0/0/1000}
101.Kh4 {+8.8/29 2594 6400600 1000/0/0} Kg7 {+6.8/21 1342 1832223 0/0/1000} 102.f5 {+9.4/29 2527 7036339 1000/0/0} Rb8 {+7.2/21 1472 580143 0/0/1000}
103.Re6 {+10.0/29 2751 7841646 1000/0/0} Kf7 {+8.8/22 1460 3818203 0/0/1000} 104.Kg5 {+10.6/30 3016 7890416 1000/0/0} Rg8+ {+8.9/21 1378 788562 0/0/1000}
105.Rg6 {+11.0/31 3672 7179604 1000/0/0} Rb8 {+9.6/19 1481 246643 0/0/1000} 106.g4 {+11.1/32 4557 7898095 1000/0/0} Ra8 {+12.2/22 2222 3990576 0/0/1000}
107.Rc6 {+10.9/32 5269 6174209 1000/0/0} Rg8+ {+12.7/21 2045 3257045 0/0/1000} 108.Kf4 {+11.4/32 3735 7311692 1000/0/0} Ke7 {+12.9/27 2416 2900689 0/0/1000}
109.f6+ {+11.6/29 3423 7633786 1000/0/0} Kd7 {+12.8/29 2626 2291180 0/0/1000} 110.Ra6 {+11.6/36 3634 5454166 1000/0/0} Rb8 {+12.7/31 2569 3219411 0/0/1000}
111.Kf5 {+12.0/32 3629 6364340 1000/0/0} Rc8 {+12.7/33 2958 2185191 0/0/1000} 112.g5 {+319.9/35 3418 7057394 1000/0/0} Rg8 {+12.7/29 2682 1477609 0/0/1000}
113.f7 {M+15/43 3456 7937515 1000/0/0} Rc8 {M-15/29 2561 3988343 0/0/1000} 114.Kg6 {M+14/43 3326 5837805 1000/0/0} Ke7 {+13.0/31 2869 1729521 0/0/1000}
115.Kg7 {M+13/43 3368 5203900 1000/0/0} Rb8 {M-12/34 2888 3616877 0/0/1000} 116.Rf6 {M+12/44 3182 6953539 1000/0/0} Rc8 {M-13/32 2121 3753251 0/0/1000}
117.f8=Q+ {M+11/44 2967 7543336 1000/0/0} Rxf8 {M-10/32 1620 3399591 0/0/1000} 118.Rxf8 {M+10/42 2920 5253918 1000/0/0} Ke6 {M-9/33 1621 3507624 0/0/1000}
119.g6 {M+9/42 2694 6678995 1000/0/0} Ke5 {M-8/34 1729 3440505 0/0/1000} 120.Kh6 {M+8/44 2684 6045345 1000/0/0} Kd6 {M-7/34 1664 3317413 0/0/1000}
121.g7 {M+7/44 2515 6625220 1000/0/0} Kd5 {M-6/37 1447 3549082 0/0/1000} 122.g8=Q+ {M+6/48 2529 6823613 1000/0/0} Kc5 {M-5/41 1184 3544932 0/0/1000}
123.Rd8 {M+5/55 2346 7493294 1000/0/0} Kb5 {M-4/80 1102 3985058 0/0/1000} 124.Rc8 {M+4/110 1834 7911497 1000/0/0} Kb6 {M-3/110 959 3375370 0/0/1000}
125.Rc1 {M+3/200 1288 4731280 1000/0/0} Ka6 {M-2/200 57 31083 0/0/1000} 126.Qb3 {M+2/200 77 15923 1000/0/0} Ka7 {M-1/200 55 818 0/0/1000}
127.Ra1# {M+1/200 61 8549 1000/0/0} 1-0

[/pgn]
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Re: New Berserk soon?

Post by Uri Blass »

Note that fixed nodes help the 13 version that seems to be slightly faster in nodes per second(edit:not sure if it is correct because with go depth 28 from the opening position I do not find that 13 is faster and I get something near 1450,000 nodes per second with berserk12 and
1410,000 nodes per seconds with berserk13).
Result:
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# name games wins draws losses score elo + -
1. Berserk 13 8M nodes 8 3 5 0 5.5 75 151 139
2. Berserk 12 8M nodes 8 1 7 0 4.5 38 137 134
3. Berserk 13 1000000 nodes 8 1 7 0 4.5 16 137 134
4. Berserk 13 4M nodes 8 0 8 0 4.0 -11 132 132
5. Berserk 12 2M nodes 8 0 7 1 3.5 -17 134 137
6. Berserk 12 4M nodes 8 0 7 1 3.5 -17 134 137
7. Berserk 13 2000000 nodes 8 0 7 1 3.5 -38 134 137
8. Berserk 12 1M nodes 8 0 6 2 3.0 -46 137 143

Cross table:
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# name score games 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1. Berserk 13 8M nodes 5.5 8 x == =1 =1 =1
2. Berserk 12 8M nodes 4.5 8 == x == == 1=
3. Berserk 13 1000000 nodes 4.5 8 == x == == =1
4. Berserk 13 4M nodes 4.0 8 == x == == ==
5. Berserk 12 2M nodes 3.5 8 =0 == == x ==
6. Berserk 12 4M nodes 3.5 8 =0 == == x ==
7. Berserk 13 2000000 nodes 3.5 8 0= == == x ==
8. Berserk 12 1M nodes 3.0 8 =0 =0 == == x

Tech:
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Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes:
# name nodes/m NPS depth/m time/m moves time
1. Berserk 13 8M nodes 6853K 1068970 43.0 6.4 79.5 509.7
2. Berserk 12 8M nodes 6045K 963952 37.6 6.3 104.8 656.9
3. Berserk 13 1000000 nodes 816K 1101858 37.7 0.7 141.4 104.6
4. Berserk 13 4M nodes 3250K 1060747 45.7 3.1 148.6 455.4
5. Berserk 12 2M nodes 1444K 947849 32.5 1.5 149.3 227.3
6. Berserk 12 4M nodes 2981K 999812 33.0 3.0 126.1 376.1
7. Berserk 13 2000000 nodes 1610K 1100768 40.9 1.5 109.0 159.4
8. Berserk 12 1M nodes 730K 919132 30.0 0.8 98.4 78.1
all --- 2668K 1018545 37.5 2.7 119.6 320.9
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Re: New Berserk soon?

Post by Chessqueen »

Why is that version of Berserk 20240324 playing in TCEC, it is NOT the latest and strongest version ? ===> https://tcec-chess.com/
Russian believe that they are special, that they can Kill thousands of Ukranian civilians, but cry like babies when a few Russian...
Uri Blass
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Chessqueen wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:47 am Why is that version of Berserk 20240324 playing in TCEC, it is NOT the latest and strongest version ? ===> https://tcec-chess.com/
I understand they did not change the berserk version that played in L2 because they plan to continue L2.
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Uri Blass wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:13 am
Chessqueen wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:47 am Why is that version of Berserk 20240324 playing in TCEC, it is NOT the latest and strongest version ? ===> https://tcec-chess.com/
I understand they did not change the berserk version that played in L2 because they plan to continue L2.
Torch 2, Berserk 13 and Rubichess have all almost reached Stockfish in strenght and they are developed by much less contributors! :)

http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... liste.html

I'm wondering if Torch that runs on Chess.com is the same of the version given to ranking lists (they use only few CPU and modest hardware) or is a different cluster version. Maybe the full-powered Torch 2 is better than Stockfish on top hardware. Where can I find detailed informations about the new Andrew Grant's engine?
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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AlexChess wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:43 am
Uri Blass wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:13 am
Chessqueen wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:47 am Why is that version of Berserk 20240324 playing in TCEC, it is NOT the latest and strongest version ? ===> https://tcec-chess.com/
I understand they did not change the berserk version that played in L2 because they plan to continue L2.
Torch 2, Berserk 13 and Rubichess have all almost reached Stockfish in strenght and they are developed by much less contributors! :)

http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20Li ... liste.html

I'm wondering if Torch that runs on Chess.com is the same of the version given to ranking lists (they use only few CPU and modest hardware) or is a different cluster version. Maybe the full-powered Torch 2 is better than Stockfish on top hardware. Where can I find detailed informations about the new Andrew Grant's engine?
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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Score of Berserk 13 vs Berserk 032424: 134 - 248 - 2118 [0.477]
... Berserk 13 playing White: 113 - 48 - 1089 [0.526] 1250
... Berserk 13 playing Black: 21 - 200 - 1029 [0.428] 1250
... White vs Black: 313 - 69 - 2118 [0.549] 2500
Elo difference: -15.9 +/- 5.3, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 84.7 %
2500 of 2500 games finished.

# PLAYER : RATING ERROR PLAYED (%) OppAvg D(%)
1 Berserk 032424 : 3608 5 2500 52.3 3592 84.7
2 Berserk 13 : 3592 5 2500 47.7 3608 84.7

White advantage = 34.39 +/- 4.91
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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Re: New Berserk soon?

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AlexChess wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:43 am Torch 2, Berserk 13 and Rubichess have all almost reached Stockfish in strenght
Completely wrong.
ipmanchess:

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RubiChess 20240112 bmi2	Stockfish 20230922 avx512	313.5	686.5
Stefan Pohl:

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Stockfish 240322 avx2  vs. RubiChess 240112 avx2    : 1000 (+510,=468,- 22), 74.4 %