ICGA WCCC and WCSC in Santiago de Compostela

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hgm wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:35 pm Well, I don't see much friendliness here.
Join Discord. The friendly people are there.
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Graham Banks wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:06 am Ginkgo Valencia = Fritz 19
The 2023 IGCA WCCC Fritz 19 then is only #29 :oops:
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RubiChess wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:00 pm
hgm wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:35 pm Well, I don't see much friendliness here.
Join Discord. The friendly people are there.
No thanks. I don't like chats.
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hgm wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:35 pm Well, I don't see much friendliness here.
No one will be friendly towards stupid claims that are outdated by couple decades being recycled over and over.
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Now that the world title will become vacant I wonder who will claim it, or maybe the ICGA will sell it to the highest bidder.
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Rebel wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:56 am Now that the world title will become vacant I wonder who will claim it, or maybe the ICGA will sell it to the highest bidder.
A perfect opportunity to make new rules for a World Computer Chess Championship with more turns and partecipants, includining instead of excluding engines. Online would be very simple and less expensive to organize... Allowing even to the connected chessboards from DGT, Millennium and other manifacturers to join. Main rule: same NPS for every candidate, to be fair.
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One problem with on-line is that it is hard to prevent cheating. How would you solve that?
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hgm wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:10 pm One problem with on-line is that it is hard to prevent cheating. How would you solve that?
For speed NPS leveling no problem and every engine could be certified using NFT (Non Fungible Token) by the authors. Lichess.org is open source. A WCCC tournament management system could be based on it.

Ehm... or TCEC itself could be useful.
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Rebel wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:56 am Now that the world title will become vacant I wonder who will claim it, or maybe the ICGA will sell it to the highest bidder.
in what sense is "World Computer Chess Champion 2025" a piece of property to be bought and sold? Why would any one person/org have exclusive rights to its use?
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chrisw wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:05 pm Why would any one person/org have exclusive rights to its use?
They don't. Anyone else can make their own World Championship, e.g. the TCEC Chess World Championship, CCC Chess World Championship, etc etc