Clover 7.1 - error

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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by Guenther »

chessica wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 11:57 am
Guenther wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:15 am
chessica wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:21 am
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:28 am I looked at version 7.0 - it shows correctly. I think the lower dash is not needed and instead of tb_hits it should be written tbhits in the engine code.
This should be noticeable when compiling with an error message.
Nonsense. (you just rename a variable and/or ascii output consistently => no errors)
Well, I had this idea before you posted. It didn't require your insulting comment.
You should also remove your insulting signature. Please think about it.
I could also create one with the heading: Which posters insult the members here most often.

Again, think about it and improve.
Obviously you have no idea about what is an insult or not. I could link to some real ones.
If someone, who has no clue about the field he is talking about spreads nonsense, we just call it nonsense, that's the way it is... sure it could be worded stronger as a real insult, but there is no need and it's not my style. (try harder to find any insults)

Actually your post could be seen as an insult to Clovers author, who chose to ignore you.

Your posts prove my signature each and every day and it is a mirror of the decay and just plain truth. Everyone knows it.
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by Guenther »

lucametehau wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:55 pm Huh, weird, will recheck asap, thx
compiled the master right now (avx2), no problem, tb hits kick in at depth 4 already with 5men Syzygy

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Clover 7.1-dev by Luca Metehau
uci
id name Clover 7.1-dev
id author Luca Metehau
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option name Threads type spin default 1 min 1 max 256
option name SyzygyPath type string default <empty>
option name MultiPV type spin default 1 min 1 max 255
option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false
uciok
isready
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Corrupted table.
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lucametehau
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by lucametehau »

Works locally as well, so chessica must have got something wrong. TBs are kinda worthless anyways, so nothing of grave importance.
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by Guenther »

lucametehau wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:36 pm Works locally as well, so chessica must have got something wrong. TBs are kinda worthless anyways, so nothing of grave importance.
Just one idea, he has a space in his long syzygy path, does Clover deal with it? (haven't checked the sources, too hot too lazy)
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lucametehau
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by lucametehau »

Guenther wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:05 pm
lucametehau wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:36 pm Works locally as well, so chessica must have got something wrong. TBs are kinda worthless anyways, so nothing of grave importance.
Just one idea, he has a space in his long syzygy path, does Clover deal with it? (haven't checked the sources, too hot too lazy)
Indeed, this seems to be the problem. Not sure if I should fix it, as I said TBs are worthless :)
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by Uri Blass »

Guenther wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:15 pm
chessica wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 11:57 am
Guenther wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:15 am
chessica wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:21 am
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:28 am I looked at version 7.0 - it shows correctly. I think the lower dash is not needed and instead of tb_hits it should be written tbhits in the engine code.
This should be noticeable when compiling with an error message.
Nonsense. (you just rename a variable and/or ascii output consistently => no errors)
Well, I had this idea before you posted. It didn't require your insulting comment.
You should also remove your insulting signature. Please think about it.
I could also create one with the heading: Which posters insult the members here most often.

Again, think about it and improve.
Obviously you have no idea about what is an insult or not. I could link to some real ones.
If someone, who has no clue about the field he is talking about spreads nonsense, we just call it nonsense, that's the way it is... sure it could be worded stronger as a real insult, but there is no need and it's not my style. (try harder to find any insults)

Actually your post could be seen as an insult to Clovers author, who chose to ignore you.

Your posts prove my signature each and every day and it is a mirror of the decay and just plain truth. Everyone knows it.
You could write "mistake' instead of "nonsense".
I do not see the benefit of suggesting that people have no clue about the field they are talking.
Even if you are right then there are people who can see it as a personal attack when simply correcting the wrong claim that they made is clearly enough for people to understand.

Note that people can make wrong claims because of a mistake or because they have no clue about the field they are talking.
Even if you are sure they have no clue then I do not see a good reason to mention it.
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by jefk »

while i don;'t know this mr Krzelak
the whole style of this (wordings), just noticed by accident, reminds me of the sort of (communication)
style recently encountered when i was discussing the drawish nature of opening theory
(eg in correspondence chess). And as i'm usually in agreement with mr Blass i'm not going to
dig into this discussion. As written earlier: it must be fun there in the engine programmers
on Discord nowadays, while i have interest in in P3 about gambits i don't think i'm going to
look at this discord channel (hey, maybe i'm too old for discord, just wondering lol).

In general i would suggest that programmers also try to improve their
communication style (and knowledge) thereby leading to some more respect;
in psychology known as arising from theory of mind or golden rule.

That can't be so difficult for promising chess kiddies (i once met Magnus C in a bar and
it was a normal/social experience (like talking to a younger colleauge), at least for a nerd as me);
his father (also not stupid) is still in my linkedin network and was glad that that i told him he
apparently had raised his boy genius with also an ability to communicate in a civilized manner.

Question to the forum, is it normal for IT boys nowadays to insult each other ?
(or endusers (stupid or not) Maybe this (or they think ) is called 'professional' behavior ? (yep i
know this is being the modus operandi for some decades now in the industry but nowadays
apparently the little IT sharks are not even going after those stupid endusers, but attacking others
their own species; quite abnormal, someone as Darwin would suggest just wondering.
And it's not a very promising development regarding the field of AGI i must say.
tons of people nowadays get subsidies by investigating ethics in AI, but then
the basic IT boys themselves, working in AI or not, don't seem to bother about
ethics, communication style, diplomacy, or whatever. and always as individual think
they're right; because of some (often flawed) logic; teamwork in the competitive
world of programmers apparently doesn't exist. where in chess there still are teams,
believe it or not (eg. the Ukraine team vs the French team just an example).
Tip for IT kiddies nerd and/or gifted or not go learn some communication skills,
personally i also wasn't always so good at this but at least i can type fast; lol.
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by Guenther »

jefk wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 9:29 pm while i don;'t know this mr Krzelak
the whole style of this (wordings), just noticed by accident, reminds me of the sort of (communication)
style recently encountered when i was discussing the drawish nature of opening theory
(eg in correspondence chess). And as i'm usually in agreement with mr Blass i'm not going to
dig into this discussion. As written earlier: it must be fun there in the engine programmers
on Discord nowadays, while i have interest in in P3 about gambits i don't think i'm going to
look at this discord channel (hey, maybe i'm too old for discord, just wondering lol).

In general i would suggest that programmers also try to improve their
communication style (and knowledge) thereby leading to some more respect;
in psychology known as arising from theory of mind or golden rule.

That can't be so difficult for promising chess kiddies (i once met Magnus C in a bar and
it was a normal/social experience (like talking to a younger colleauge), at least for a nerd as me);
his father (also not stupid) is still in my linkedin network and was glad that that i told him he
apparently had raised his boy genius with also an ability to communicate in a civilized manner.

Question to the forum, is it normal for IT boys nowadays to insult each other ?
(or enduserrs) Maybe this (or they think ) is called 'professional' behavior ?
(yep i know this is being the modus operandi for some decades now in the industry
but nowadays apparently the little IT sharks are not even going after those stupid endusers,
but attacking their own species; quite abnormal, someone as Darwin would suggest
just wondering.
You are drunk (admittedly - and usually on my ignore list anyway) please don't spoil more threads...
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by jefk »

drunk ? Three beers (ok one more maybe. because of some bad experience with another thread
even after a walk

And then invading in another thread ? with some programmers apparently
oh dear, ok i admit i had no clue what i was talking about but was
diverting the discussion, and Clover was ringing a bell coz i
had asked him (luca) when he's going to use Nnue>

For the test i now go away, being happy Rebel (mr Ed) locked that other thread
(and happy you 2 i presume)
schuez

(or whatever the term in German, twice been with them , and some Swiss in skying
classes (eg. Austria) actually most of them were not so bad but i didnt talk about chess
there were no Dutch coz i was in the highest team/classs (nr 1) and we did
some off piste skying. In my forthcoming ACO chess tourn there will be some
Dutch but i don't care. In real life i tend to communicate/ relate with some people
(as result of personality) rather well , others sometimes less; that's life :
(but also what's makes the international arena interesting sometimes (at least
when they're not trying to kill each other; a thing which in scientific humanism ,
unlikein math, is usually not recommended) Now further thinking of this a forum
as this could be possile a paradise for gay autists interested in SM or not (*) if it
wouldnt be for some psycho chess (or I T) kiddies; and although old i don't belong in
that categories. But getting a bit off topic now, i must admit
(and for you and Luca maybe getting a Damocles sword going to lock
this thread as well, well that would be fun wouldnt it Prozit.
Anwauy now indeed digressing a bit about the original topic (just as some
others did when i was talking about opening theory). with respect, mr Guenther
(*) as asperger, and so on.
going to be banned now ? well ok, fine with me, for a month or so,
then i''ll be back from Crete, like i said with the ACO senior otb
world champ title (not like Kaufman he;s only senior GM, not world champ,
he's world champ in shogi at least outside of Japan)
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Re: Clover 7.1 - error

Post by Viz »

Quite curious if anyone actually reads this guy posts.
Need to be one of a kind to do so probably because they are infinite array of meaningless ramblings and bs more or less.