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ShashChess
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Re: ShashChess
Aligned with Stockfish 17.
Why are you using stockfish 17 patches if they clearly use flawed methodology of testing at bullet?
Why are you using stockfish 17 patches if they clearly use flawed methodology of testing at bullet?
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Re: ShashChess
Thank you very much Andrea!
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Re: ShashChess
As expected bigger net and other changes make ShashChess worse solver (High Tal). Just one example. 110 positions HTC test. ShashChess 35.1 solved 93 and used 26 minutes. Version 36 solved 84 and used 36 minutes. Also questionable "hide current move" patch included.
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Re: ShashChess
What does this mean for practical game play? Will it play worse chess?Jouni wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:55 pm As expected bigger net and other changes make ShashChess worse solver (High Tal). Just one example. 110 positions HTC test. ShashChess 35.1 solved 93 and used 26 minutes. Version 36 solved 84 and used 36 minutes. Also questionable "hide current move" patch included.
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Re: ShashChess
Bigger net means: 20000 kn/s -> 10000 kn/sJouni wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:55 pm As expected bigger net and other changes make ShashChess worse solver (High Tal). Just one example. 110 positions HTC test. ShashChess 35.1 solved 93 and used 26 minutes. Version 36 solved 84 and used 36 minutes. Also questionable "hide current move" patch included.
Solution: Use 16 cores CPU instead of 8 cores. 10000 kn/s -> 20000 kn/s
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Re: ShashChess
It's tactically weaker but positionally and strategically stronger (Stockfish 17 +46 elo).criko wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:00 amWhat does this mean for practical game play? Will it play worse chess?Jouni wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:55 pm As expected bigger net and other changes make ShashChess worse solver (High Tal). Just one example. 110 positions HTC test. ShashChess 35.1 solved 93 and used 26 minutes. Version 36 solved 84 and used 36 minutes. Also questionable "hide current move" patch included.
To get the same tactical strength, which you had before, you need to BUY better hardware. Instead of old AMD Ryzen 8 cores CPU, buy AMD 9950X or 9950X3D 16 cores CPU.
If you have a 7950X 16 cores CPU, go for the 7970X 32 cores CPU.
Of course the positional and strategical strength will increase too.
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Re: ShashChess
@criko
If you use ShashChess, use also High Tal and MultiPV=4 and MCTS on and MCTSThreads=2 or more.
Example:
CPU with 8 cores.
Threads=6
MCTSThreads=2
You should get around +10 solved positions more.
If you use ShashChess, use also High Tal and MultiPV=4 and MCTS on and MCTSThreads=2 or more.
Example:
CPU with 8 cores.
Threads=6
MCTSThreads=2
You should get around +10 solved positions more.
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Re: ShashChess
Laughable.Hai wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:59 pmIt's tactically weaker but positionally and strategically stronger (Stockfish 17 +46 elo).criko wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:00 amWhat does this mean for practical game play? Will it play worse chess?Jouni wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:55 pm As expected bigger net and other changes make ShashChess worse solver (High Tal). Just one example. 110 positions HTC test. ShashChess 35.1 solved 93 and used 26 minutes. Version 36 solved 84 and used 36 minutes. Also questionable "hide current move" patch included.
90% of coding is debugging, the other 10% is writing bugs.