Antichess technique applied to International Masters. Man against machine and against chess professionals.

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Re: Antichess technique applied to International Masters. Man against machine and against chess professionals.

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I have had idea 💡
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Father wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:36 am...
Moderation:
It has been made amply clear that politics in any form is not allowed on this forum.
Do not pollute the Kindergarten section with postings that do not belong there, though. That section should remain reserved for postings by people who behave like 6-year olds. Plain charter violations should be dealt with in the ordinary way (editing, deleting, warning, banning...).
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Re: I offer this small game of chess to God for the great need to advance peace among nations.

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hgm wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:06 pm
Father wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 3:36 am...
Moderation:
It has been made amply clear that politics in any form is not allowed on this forum.
Do not pollute the Kindergarten section with postings that do not belong there, though. That section should remain reserved for postings by people who behave like 6-year olds. Plain charter violations should be dealt with in the ordinary way (editing, deleting, warning, banning...).
Just to understand: "I offer this small game of chess to God for the great need to advance peace among nations." followed by the PGN of a human game against a chessbot is considered to be politics in some form? This is really taking things a bit far.
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I don't know whether the red text replaced something that constituted a charter violation. If any of the moderators felt the mentioned text was a violation, it should have been edited out.
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hgm wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:40 pm I don't know whether the red text replaced something that constituted a charter violation. If any of the moderators felt the mentioned text was a violation, it should have been edited out.
Problem with treating stuff as cleaning operations is that nobody knows why how or what and while that may be suitable in one-off cases, it is less so when there is a continual problem that is giving rise to moderation complaints. On reflection, better would to have been a lock thread.
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Father wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:35 pm I would like kind and generous help from someone on the forum, in order to put this game into moving diagrams. The white pieces played the entire game without their queen, they gave the machine a queen advantage, and the human, Mr. Krabbé, won against the super computer Fritz 8. I don't know how to publish this game, here in the diagram the queen is a non-existent illusion. Thanks again. There are stories worth remembering and not forgetting.
Dear chess community.. I have not been able to find a way to reproduce here within this forum in graphical motion this important historical odds game, which is proof of how in those times of the first decade of the 21st century invatibility was published of the computers in the main media, meanwhile in the dressing rooms the unusual happened: "The reigning world champion of cilicona lost on time against representatives of the minor soccer leagues.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Father wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:01 pm
Father wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:35 pm I would like kind and generous help from someone on the forum, in order to put this game into moving diagrams. The white pieces played the entire game without their queen, they gave the machine a queen advantage, and the human, Mr. Krabbé, won against the super computer Fritz 8. I don't know how to publish this game, here in the diagram the queen is a non-existent illusion. Thanks again. There are stories worth remembering and not forgetting.
Dear chess community.. I have not been able to find a way to reproduce here within this forum in graphical motion this important historical odds game, which is proof of how in those times of the first decade of the 21st century invatibility was published of the computers in the main media, meanwhile in the dressing rooms the unusual happened: "The reigning world champion of cilicona lost on time against representatives of the minor soccer leagues.
In this chess game, in the first moves of the match, the human handed over his queen in the best anti-algorithm odds style... we could say or explain it graphically with a sentence thus contained: "The day philosophy defeated mathematics. " Salt and pepper.
By the way, in the dialogue between Father and IA..." Father. IA. Could you define the philosophy for me? IA responds: "searching"..
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Antichess technique applied to International Masters. Man against machine and against chess professionals.

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[pgn][/pgn]
Father wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:17 pm
Father wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:01 pm
Father wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:35 pm I would like kind and generous help from someone on the forum, in order to put this game into moving diagrams. The white pieces played the entire game without their queen, they gave the machine a queen advantage, and the human, Mr. Krabbé, won against the super computer Fritz 8. I don't know how to publish this game, here in the diagram the queen is a non-existent illusion. Thanks again. There are stories worth remembering and not forgetting.
Dear chess community.. I have not been able to find a way to reproduce here within this forum in graphical motion this important historical odds game, which is proof of how in those times of the first decade of the 21st century invatibility was published of the computers in the main media, meanwhile in the dressing rooms the unusual happened: "The reigning world champion of cilicona lost on time against representatives of the minor soccer leagues.
In this chess game, in the first moves of the match, the human handed over his queen in the best anti-algorithm odds style... we could say or explain it graphically with a sentence thus contained: "The day philosophy defeated mathematics. " Salt and pepper.
By the way, in the dialogue between Father and IA..." Father. IA. Could you define the philosophy for me? IA responds: "searching"..
[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/H5ndv5I0"]
[Date "2024.10.19"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.19"]
[UTCTime "05:22:06"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nc3 d5 2. d4 e6 3. Bf4 c6 4. e4 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nxf6+ Qxf6 7. Be5 Qd8 8. Qd3 Nd7 9. Bg3 Nf6 10. O-O-O Bd6 11. Kb1 Qc7 12. Bh4 Bd7 13. Qf3 Be7 14. Bg3 Bd6 15. Bh4 Be7 16. Bg3 Bd6 17. Bh4 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

... following history, it is often difficult to understand the reason for being in the depth of the "deep mind" of the acceptance of the tie emanating from the cybernetic will; I wonder: "Do computers have free will?"
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Father wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:29 am [pgn][/pgn]
Father wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:17 pm
Father wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:01 pm
Father wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:35 pm I would like kind and generous help from someone on the forum, in order to put this game into moving diagrams. The white pieces played the entire game without their queen, they gave the machine a queen advantage, and the human, Mr. Krabbé, won against the super computer Fritz 8. I don't know how to publish this game, here in the diagram the queen is a non-existent illusion. Thanks again. There are stories worth remembering and not forgetting.
Dear chess community.. I have not been able to find a way to reproduce here within this forum in graphical motion this important historical odds game, which is proof of how in those times of the first decade of the 21st century invatibility was published of the computers in the main media, meanwhile in the dressing rooms the unusual happened: "The reigning world champion of cilicona lost on time against representatives of the minor soccer leagues.
In this chess game, in the first moves of the match, the human handed over his queen in the best anti-algorithm odds style... we could say or explain it graphically with a sentence thus contained: "The day philosophy defeated mathematics. " Salt and pepper.
By the way, in the dialogue between Father and IA..." Father. IA. Could you define the philosophy for me? IA responds: "searching"..
[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/H5ndv5I0"]
[Date "2024.10.19"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.19"]
[UTCTime "05:22:06"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nc3 d5 2. d4 e6 3. Bf4 c6 4. e4 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nxf6+ Qxf6 7. Be5 Qd8 8. Qd3 Nd7 9. Bg3 Nf6 10. O-O-O Bd6 11. Kb1 Qc7 12. Bh4 Bd7 13. Qf3 Be7 14. Bg3 Bd6 15. Bh4 Be7 16. Bg3 Bd6 17. Bh4 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

... following history, it is often difficult to understand the reason for being in the depth of the "deep mind" of the acceptance of the tie emanating from the cybernetic will; I wonder: "Do computers have free will?"

[pgn] [Event "Casual blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/6Ha0SrGr"]
[Date "2024.10.21"]
[White "LeelaKnightOdds"]
[Black "Catecan"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.10.21"]
[UTCTime "12:52:02"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2082"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nc3 d5 2. d4 e6 3. Bf4 c6 4. e4 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Nf6 6. Nxf6+ Qxf6 7. Be5 Qd8 8. Qd3 Nd7 9. Bg3 Nf6 10. O-O-O Bd6 11. Be2 Bxg3 12. hxg3 Rg8 13. g4 h6 14. Kb1 Bd7 15. Qa3 Qe7 16. Qa5 Qd8 17. Qa3 Qe7 18. Qa5 Qd8 19. Qe5 Qb8 20. Qa5 Qd8 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.