ICGA WCCC and WCSC in Santiago de Compostela

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Re: ICGA WCCC and WCSC in Santiago de Compostela

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mclane wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:13 am
He could have FIXED that much better by buying Mark Uniackes Hiarcs World chess champion in Munich championship because hiarcs at that time was running on a sparc cpu too.

https://www.chessprogramming.org/WMCCC_1993

Then he would have had a world chess champion in his modules and use the same hardware/module the spracklens used.

Johan de konings engine in the saitek risc was the arm cpu from the chess machines put into a dedicated chess computer. In munich 1993 johan used a very powerful dec alpha machine with 150 mhz.

Johans engine made 2nd in munich 1993.
Even before Richards Genius.

I remember from preparation games before the Munich championship that hiarcs at that time beated all other engines with one exception: johan de konings „The King“ on chess machine .
So the final ranking of the munich championship shows imo very good the level of the engines at that time.

In the background on the picture there is also Ares programmer charles roberson and next to him Wolfgang Zugrav.

There was another participant in Munich using a sparc station hardware, that was werner koch with Breakthrough.
True, Sparc module has given a very little boost. Marc Uniacke's engine was very interesting for his positional knowledge and was very interesting despite NPS. (HIARCS IS interesting, it is still on the market and offers a complete alternative to Chessbase :) ) But PC softwares have killed electronic chessboards! When Saitek have bought Fidelity and Mephisto, it was already too late :(

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Right. Software took over dedicated chess computers, but saitek would have had 2 engines for 1 module then, with hiarcs beeing a champion. Just exchange eproms and print new boxes for the sparc module.
IMO a wrong decision of mr. winkler.
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How good : hiarcs engine and also shredder are part of the millennium Phoenix machine, and in the end came finally into a dedicated chess computer with wooden chess board. Late but not too late.

But i missed a few people in santiago de Compostela:

Where was Ron Nelson, The Spracklens, Dave Kittinger, Marty Hirsch, Stefan Meyer Kahlen, Julio Kaplan ?
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cpeters wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:52 pm This is/was it? And people are ok?

The last "World Computer Chess Championship"? Some candy snappy-snaps form someone's phone? On a blogsite? The lectureroom with shitty internet filled with ten people? Fifty years...; the transcript of them lecture-words nowhere to be found (or is it not for the general public). No streaming of this event in the year 2024? Did they forget to bring their AOL-CDs from the states along with them?
Or am I supposed to send some stamps and get the DVD of the event?

Good Lord...

Here: https://www.vegvesen.no/trafikkinformas ... /1800193_1

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That is the far half of the room. The main entrance was to the left of that pic and that is where the majority sat. Oddly enough those of us that were participants from the past and present sat on the side you see, the rest to the left. There were some pioneers in the field to the left of the room including those from Russia and they were a pleasure to meet.

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This is a YouTube video of the 2024 ICGA World Computer Blitz Chess Championship match between Ares and Gridchess/Fritz. It was a pleasure to chat with the team (Frank Schneider, Kai Skibbe and Wolfgang Zugrav). I'll put up two more videos of Frank and myself playing blitz without the computers.

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Many thanks!!
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These are my videos from the blitz playoff: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP ... FjeEJlZnRR

I sent all participants a link with my pictures. Maybe if more people do this the best ones can be put on the website or an album :)
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From the pictures seen, I am missing the following oldies frequently having participated.

Berliner
Robert Hyatt
Frans Morsch
Marty Hirsch
Mark Uniacke
Mark Lefler
SMK
Amir Ban

I suppose Vas did not get an invitation :D
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I hope they are all okay. Amir Ban's close relatives got attacked by Hamas just over a year ago. I think it was Albert Silver who wrote about that? Hans Berliner passed away in 2017. I hope Frans is okay. I do not think he would have come? I never did find out what happened to Bruce Moreland after he withdrew from computer chess, no public references I could find ever.
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CRoberson wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:08 pm This is a YouTube video of the 2024 ICGA World Computer Blitz Chess Championship match between Ares and Gridchess/Fritz. It was a pleasure to chat with the team (Frank Schneider, Kai Skibbe and Wolfgang Zugrav). I'll put up two more videos of Frank and myself playing blitz without the computers.
Here are the videos of Frank and I blitzing without the computers. Frank won the first game and I the second. I suspect he was a fatigued as I and we both were not at our best. It was great fun to match up with him.

Game 1:

Game 2: