Amazing results of LeelaKnightOdds-Dev

[Uri Blass]

For some reason I cannot find Punypawn315 when I search for this player in lichess.
This player played only 19 games but already has 1952 that is very good considering the fact that he is supposed to start with 1600
8 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

He scored 55% at 1+1 just before the upgrade, in the first 20 games 'K' is set to 40, so grow is quite fast, everything is in order.

I searched 1+1 games when Lc0 lost and found games of that player.

I see that for some reason the account is closed and the player had 2622 at bullet.
Here is one of the games he won
https://lichess.org/3aFuE03B

When I click on the name I get no such player exist.
https://lichess.org/@/Punypawn315

[Uri Blass]

Now I see that leela won some game on time after 1 move and I hope you do not count them for the rating list.

Ok, I will add a check that a game must last at least 5 moves

I think there were some games with less than 5 moves that people resigned because of blunders they made.
Here is one of them

https://lichess.org/U07xWxTJ

I also look for draws and
the shortest draw by repetition of lc0 is 7 moves
https://lichess.org/lIQiJjhY#14

One draw by agreement after 1 move some months ago of course should not be included.

[Uri Blass]

I think that the question if to allow the opponent to make a good sacrifice is dependent on the style of the opponent because it may be a good practical decision if the opponent is afraid to sacrifice.

Different players at the same rating can play differently so
leela may learn from history of games against the specific player if it is probably a good decision or not.

[lkaufman]

For some reason I cannot find Punypawn315 when I search for this player in lichess.
This player played only 19 games but already has 1952 that is very good considering the fact that he is supposed to start with 1600
8 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

He scored 55% at 1+1 just before the upgrade, in the first 20 games 'K' is set to 40, so grow is quite fast, everything is in order.

I searched 1+1 games when Lc0 lost and found games of that player.

I see that for some reason the account is closed and the player had 2622 at bullet.
Here is one of the games he won
https://lichess.org/3aFuE03B

When I click on the name I get no such player exist.
https://lichess.org/@/Punypawn315

He also scored 1.5 out of 17 at knight odds (losing at blitz, but scoring eventually in 15 + 10 rapid. Probably a player at or near IM level. Don't know why the account was closed.

[lkaufman]

For some reason I cannot find Punypawn315 when I search for this player in lichess.
This player played only 19 games but already has 1952 that is very good considering the fact that he is supposed to start with 1600
8 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

He scored 55% at 1+1 just before the upgrade, in the first 20 games 'K' is set to 40, so grow is quite fast, everything is in order.

I searched 1+1 games when Lc0 lost and found games of that player.

I see that for some reason the account is closed and the player had 2622 at bullet.
Here is one of the games he won
https://lichess.org/3aFuE03B

When I click on the name I get no such player exist.
https://lichess.org/@/Punypawn315

He also scored 1.5 out of 17 at knight odds (losing at blitz, but scoring eventually in 15 + 10 rapid. Probably a player at or near IM level. Don't know why the account was closed.

I can add that there is a problem and for some reason leela does not play lately.

She accept games but do not make a move.
There are a lot of games that players aborted and I can see that in theory she is playing 10 games now but practically did not play the first move.

https://lichess.org/@/LeelaQueenOdds/playing

We don't know exactly what caused the problem, but clearing out the games and restarting seems to have fixed it.

[lkaufman]

I think that the question if to allow the opponent to make a good sacrifice is dependent on the style of the opponent because it may be a good practical decision if the opponent is afraid to sacrifice.

Different players at the same rating can play differently so
leela may learn from history of games against the specific player if it is probably a good decision or not.

Learning from the game history of the opponent is currently beyond the capability of Leela or any other engine, but who knows, some day this may be possible. Already the "impossible" has happened with these bots.

[Marcus91]

I think that the question if to allow the opponent to make a good sacrifice is dependent on the style of the opponent because it may be a good practical decision if the opponent is afraid to sacrifice.

Different players at the same rating can play differently so
leela may learn from history of games against the specific player if it is probably a good decision or not.

Learning from the game history of the opponent is currently beyond the capability of Leela or any other engine, but who knows, some day this may be possible. Already the "impossible" has happened with these bots.

In principle it's possible, and I have some ideas on how it could already be done, but some substantial changes would be needed

[Uri Blass]

In the last 5 games I got 2.5-2.5 result against Lc0 with black at 10+5
Note that I used some small book that I memorized from learning from previous games and it seems that lc0 repeat the same moves too often.

first game:

https://lichess.org/SZf1yqwbnpyj

I analyzed the game later with Wasp(not immediately after the game and Wasp said that 5...Nxd2 was not the best but 5...Bf5 so I decided to play later 5...Bf5(not that Nxd2 is a mistake and maybe better practical decision was to keep Nxd2 and learn from my mistakes later because the main problem is that I did not play the endgame well)

second game:


https://lichess.org/ziOQOSvPIA3o

moves 1-5 including 5...Bf5 were from memory.
I started to think and found the moves that Wasp suggest at moves 6-8.

6...e5 seems active and I saw that 7.Nxe5 is bad
It seems that I have the initiative after moves 7-8 but I did not find the correct moves and lost.
21...Nf3+ was one important mistake. I calculate that I can sacrifice my queen for rook and knight and did not see that I lose the bishop at f3 on time.

Third game:

https://lichess.org/9aIOjnwfoHy8

I found in the analysis that 9...Nc6 was better so
9...Nc6 was the last move that I memorized and this time I won.

[Father]

In the last 5 games I got 2.5-2.5 result against Lc0 with black at 10+5
Note that I used some small book that I memorized from learning from previous games and it seems that lc0 repeat the same moves too often.

first game:

https://lichess.org/SZf1yqwbnpyj

I analyzed the game later with Wasp(not immediately after the game and Wasp said that 5...Nxd2 was not the best but 5...Bf5 so I decided to play later 5...Bf5(not that Nxd2 is a mistake and maybe better practical decision was to keep Nxd2 and learn from my mistakes later because the main problem is that I did not play the endgame well)

second game:


https://lichess.org/ziOQOSvPIA3o

moves 1-5 including 5...Bf5 were from memory.
I started to think and found the moves that Wasp suggest at moves 6-8.

6...e5 seems active and I saw that 7.Nxe5 is bad
It seems that I have the initiative after moves 7-8 but I did not find the correct moves and lost.
21...Nf3+ was one important mistake. I calculate that I can sacrifice my queen for rook and knight and did not see that I lose the bishop at f3 on time.

Third game:

https://lichess.org/9aIOjnwfoHy8

I found in the analysis that 9...Nc6 was better so
9...Nc6 was the last move that I memorized and this time I won.

Well done Uri!!

[Father]

I think that the question if to allow the opponent to make a good sacrifice is dependent on the style of the opponent because it may be a good practical decision if the opponent is afraid to sacrifice.

Different players at the same rating can play differently so
leela may learn from history of games against the specific player if it is probably a good decision or not.

Learning from the game history of the opponent is currently beyond the capability of Leela or any other engine, but who knows, some day this may be possible. Already the "impossible" has happened with these bots.

Good evening Mr. Larry Kaufman. I would like to know what is the meaning of the bullet time control? 1+ 0 is the same as 1+1 and 1+2; 3+ 0 is the same as 3+2 and 3+5. ...I would only be on my return to the streets in fights with bare hands and without boxing gloves, willing to fight or 1+0: 1+1 and 3 +0. How do time controls affect the elo classification of the top 100 table and how many games must be played to access the elo? In advance again, thank you. I also don't understand the reason why there can't be a top 100 table on LeelaknightOdds. The better will be the human who scores the most points in a series of confrontations, regardless of how few the human's points are... excuse my ignorance, I remind you that I am an apprentice poet...