mclane wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:02 pm
In europe you get a prepaid telephone number only when you present your identity card to the provider.
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Sure, it's unlikely that someone would go to such lengths just to stay anonymous on a chess forum, but that's not the point.
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My question is if verification code via SMS/voice call via phone number is a technical solution for TalkChess to solve anonymity. Circumvent verification/security systems is always a matter of much one is willing/able to invest. If such a verification system is an option (all big platforms use phone number as ID?), we can ask for a second donation round to hire an freelancer to program a phpBB plug in and pay the SMS/voice provider. As mentioned, this can be implemented step wise, verified users gain the right to vote for example.
...this still would not resolve any fake real names, cos only the phone number was verified as ID. But if there occurs any malicious behavior, phone number might help for any legal actions.
smatovic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:36 pm
My question is if verification code via SMS/voice call via phone number is a technical solution for TalkChess to solve anonymity.
As a fun and interesting alternative to a holiday, the founders could divide the world into 3, and within those 3 areas, each travel from town to town meeting the members and confirming their identities and credentials.
Human chess is partly about tactics and strategy, but mostly about memory
chrisw wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:47 pm
On your aside, yes, I doubt actual SF developers find the activities of certain of the SF discord any more tasteful than we do. Cursory reading (if you can bear the gutter language and homoerotic language from some of them) reveals suggestions/incitement to fake sign up here in masses to affect the vote. Suggestion from one prominent organiser to stand as mod candidate, perform some disruption and then resign. Multiple allegations of mal intent and misdemeanours by mods which are based on lies and/or partial/twisted data. One post claiming poster signed up specifically to “ffff with the mods”. And so on and so on. They’re using the SF discord as a platform to try to organise a destruction of talkchess. Doesn’t exactly reflect well on the otherwise brilliant SF project.
If you wanna know what a more civilized discord server looks like, I suggest the Engine Programming server: https://discord.com/invite/F6W6mMsTGN
The SF server is indeed a bit special.
I had my first few years of engine development with the CPW and talkchess, and I have to admit, that discord servers are much more alive and useful for chess programming than this forum (so much so that "destruction of talkchess" has honestly little weight in its current state anymore to me personally (apart from it's historical value), as sad as that might be). So I really recommend you give at least the EP server a try.
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towforce wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:03 pm
As a fun and interesting alternative to a holiday, the founders could divide the world into 3, and within those 3 areas, each travel from town to town meeting the members and confirming their identities and credentials.
In fact, it is also possible to easily create a sort of "connection diagram", like Linkedin, showing who knows whom in person. However, this would exclude everyone who doesn’t know anyone yet, and especially all those who _don’t want_ to know anyone
You can buy many of them but if you want to make them work you need to register with an identity card and your head beside the identity card so the provider can check out if it is identical. Or in a shop.
The seller then has to input your adress AND the number of the identity card into his computer system.
Otherwise card is not working.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
mclane wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:37 pm
You can buy many of them but if you want to make them work you need to register with an identity card and your head beside the identity card so the provider can check out if it is identical.
Ok, let's assume there are no anonymous SIM cards. Now, I, Alex, will go buy 10 registered standard SIM cards (by the way, they cost 3€ each here, and there are even some that are free). Then, I'll create 10 different accounts here with 10 fake names and the 10 phone numbers. TalkChess, how do you know if these are actually 10 new people? How do you solve the anonymity issue?
