Amazing results of LeelaKnightOdds-Dev

[Father]

table so far that include rating of the player in lichess for players who played at least 150 games against leela and have rating with no ?

It seems that for relatively weak players(blitz rating below 1700) the lichess rating is lower than the queen odds rating(I guess that it is also correct for strong players if they take the games seriously)

1 nn1133 2223.3 (bullet 2400)
2 Ajktulm 2154.1(blitz 2015 rapid 2206)
12 Traag 1853.7(bullet 1379 blitz 1566 rapid 1620)
16 BvAR2 1835.1(bullet 1281 blitz 1607)
19 Zqf5502l 1793.3(bullet 2082 blitz 1983 rapid 2058)
21 W3Z2fv4o6ipbnak8u7 1734.0(bullet 1003 rapid 1675)
28 OptimumPrime 1708.5(blitz 1532)

.. This whole way of playing chess without a queen seems almost preternatural to me and clearly exceeds my limited intelligence...

[pgn] [Event "Casual rapid game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/WMlaELvP"]
[Date "2024.11.16"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "uriblass"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.11.16"]
[UTCTime "12:34:37"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2236"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e3 d5 2. f4 Nf6 3. d3 c5 4. h3 Nc6 5. g4 e5 6. Bd2 d4 7. e4 Bd6 8. f5 Qb6 9. Bc1 Bd7 10. Nd2 Nb4 11. Kd1 Qc7 12. a3 Nc6 13. a4 Nb4 14. Ngf3 O-O-O 15. Nc4 Nc6 16. Bd2 b6 17. Be2 g6 18. Ng5 Rdf8 19. Nf3 gxf5 20. gxf5 h5 21. Kc1 Rfg8 22. b3 Rg2 23. Bf1 Rg3 24. Ng5 Be8 25. h4 Nh7 26. Be1 Rxg5 27. hxg5 Nxg5 28. f6 Qd8 29. Bh4 Nf3 30. Bf2 Qxf6 31. Kb2 Bd7 32. Be2 h4 33. Raf1 Bg4 34. Be1 Bc7 35. Nd2 Qg6 36. Nxf3 Bxf3 37. Bxf3 h3 38. Rfg1 Qh6 39. Bg4+ Kb7 40. Rg3 h2 41. Rg2 Ne7 42. Bd2 Qh4 43. Bg5 Qxg5 44. Bc8+ Kxc8 45. Rxg5 Kd7 46. Rg2 Ng6 47. Rgxh2 Rxh2 48. Rxh2 Ke6 49. Kc1 Bd8 50. Kd1 Bg5 51. Ke2 Bf4 52. Rh7 Bg5 53. Kf3 Bf4 54. Ke2 Bg5 55. Rh1 Bf4 56. a5 b5 57. a6 Ne7 58. Rh8 Nc6 59. Rf8 Bg5 60. Rc8 Kd7 61. Rf8 Ke6 62. Rc8 Kd7 63. Rg8 f6 64. Rg7+ Kd6 65. Rb7 Ke6 66. Rxb5 Kd6 67. Rb7 Bf4 68. Kf3 Bg5 69. Rf7 Ke6 70. Rb7 Kd6 71. Ke2 Ke6 72. Kd1 Kd6 73. Rf7 Ke6 74. Rh7 Kd6 75. Rb7 Ke6 76. b4 cxb4 77. Ke2 Kd6 78. Kf3 Ke6 79. Kg4 Bd2 80. Kh4 Bg5+ 81. Kh5 Be3 82. Kg6 Bg5 83. Kh7 Bf4 84. Kg6 Bg5 85. Kh7 Bf4 86. Rc7 Kd6 87. Rf7 Ke6 88. Kg8 Bh6 89. Rb7 Bg5 90. Kg7 Bf4 91. Rc7 Kd6 92. Rf7 Bg5 93. Rb7 Ke6 94. Kg8 Bh6 95. Rc7 Kd6 96. Rh7 Bg5 97. Rb7 Bf4 98. Kf8 Bg5 99. Ke8 Bf4 100. Rb5 Bg5 101. Kf7 Bh4 102. Kg6 Bg5 103. Kh5 Bf4 104. Kh4 Bg5+ 105. Kg4 Be3 106. Kf5 Bg5 107. Kg6 Bh4 108. Rb7 Bg5 109. Kg7 Bh4 110. Kf8 Bg5 111. Ke8 Bh4 112. Rb5 Bg5 113. Kf7 Bh4 114. Kg6 Bg5 115. Kh5 Be3 116. Kh4 Bg5+ 117. Kh3 Bf4 118. Rb7 Bg5 119. Kg2 Bf4 120. Kf2 Bg5 121. Rb5 Bf4 122. Kf3 Bg5 123. Kg4 Be3 124. Kf3 Bg5 125. Kg3 Bf4+ 126. Kg4 Be3 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

I would believe that LeelaQueenOdds has become "the teacher" of the humans. It will be up to humans to learn from LeelaQueenOdds how to play chess without the queen on the humans' side. If, for example, Nakamura considers that his level of play without his queen is 1800 Fide, LeelaQueenOdds teaches the ways of increasing human elo, I don't know in how many points, but I would believe that there will be many. The game with the pawns in the best Philidor style will take a lot life.

In this game I missed the fact that 43.Bg5 wins material.
After Bg5 I saw that Qxg5 lose the queen for 2 pieces but losing the knight is not better so accepted the loss of material.

I still had a winning endgame but considering the time control decided at that point of time that my best practical chance is not to try to win but to play for a draw.

It was a good game Uri. I hope you surpass "nn1133"... personally I think you deserve, from what I have observed, to occupy the first place in the table. Those who are stronger can choose between fighting or not fighting in the street ring. The streets and corners have their kings.

The human ranking means nothing for me because the best players did not play enough games to get the rating they can get.
I hope that I can surpass LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) and later
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) and LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference)

I believe that with the right training at least the first 2 targets are possible and maybe I am going to pay for somebody to help me to train for this target.

… The International Master Omnivor is hunting us...

[Father]

table so far that include rating of the player in lichess for players who played at least 150 games against leela and have rating with no ?

It seems that for relatively weak players(blitz rating below 1700) the lichess rating is lower than the queen odds rating(I guess that it is also correct for strong players if they take the games seriously)

1 nn1133 2223.3 (bullet 2400)
2 Ajktulm 2154.1(blitz 2015 rapid 2206)
12 Traag 1853.7(bullet 1379 blitz 1566 rapid 1620)
16 BvAR2 1835.1(bullet 1281 blitz 1607)
19 Zqf5502l 1793.3(bullet 2082 blitz 1983 rapid 2058)
21 W3Z2fv4o6ipbnak8u7 1734.0(bullet 1003 rapid 1675)
28 OptimumPrime 1708.5(blitz 1532)

.. This whole way of playing chess without a queen seems almost preternatural to me and clearly exceeds my limited intelligence...

[pgn] [Event "Casual rapid game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/WMlaELvP"]
[Date "2024.11.16"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "uriblass"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[UTCDate "2024.11.16"]
[UTCTime "12:34:37"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2236"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "600+5"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e3 d5 2. f4 Nf6 3. d3 c5 4. h3 Nc6 5. g4 e5 6. Bd2 d4 7. e4 Bd6 8. f5 Qb6 9. Bc1 Bd7 10. Nd2 Nb4 11. Kd1 Qc7 12. a3 Nc6 13. a4 Nb4 14. Ngf3 O-O-O 15. Nc4 Nc6 16. Bd2 b6 17. Be2 g6 18. Ng5 Rdf8 19. Nf3 gxf5 20. gxf5 h5 21. Kc1 Rfg8 22. b3 Rg2 23. Bf1 Rg3 24. Ng5 Be8 25. h4 Nh7 26. Be1 Rxg5 27. hxg5 Nxg5 28. f6 Qd8 29. Bh4 Nf3 30. Bf2 Qxf6 31. Kb2 Bd7 32. Be2 h4 33. Raf1 Bg4 34. Be1 Bc7 35. Nd2 Qg6 36. Nxf3 Bxf3 37. Bxf3 h3 38. Rfg1 Qh6 39. Bg4+ Kb7 40. Rg3 h2 41. Rg2 Ne7 42. Bd2 Qh4 43. Bg5 Qxg5 44. Bc8+ Kxc8 45. Rxg5 Kd7 46. Rg2 Ng6 47. Rgxh2 Rxh2 48. Rxh2 Ke6 49. Kc1 Bd8 50. Kd1 Bg5 51. Ke2 Bf4 52. Rh7 Bg5 53. Kf3 Bf4 54. Ke2 Bg5 55. Rh1 Bf4 56. a5 b5 57. a6 Ne7 58. Rh8 Nc6 59. Rf8 Bg5 60. Rc8 Kd7 61. Rf8 Ke6 62. Rc8 Kd7 63. Rg8 f6 64. Rg7+ Kd6 65. Rb7 Ke6 66. Rxb5 Kd6 67. Rb7 Bf4 68. Kf3 Bg5 69. Rf7 Ke6 70. Rb7 Kd6 71. Ke2 Ke6 72. Kd1 Kd6 73. Rf7 Ke6 74. Rh7 Kd6 75. Rb7 Ke6 76. b4 cxb4 77. Ke2 Kd6 78. Kf3 Ke6 79. Kg4 Bd2 80. Kh4 Bg5+ 81. Kh5 Be3 82. Kg6 Bg5 83. Kh7 Bf4 84. Kg6 Bg5 85. Kh7 Bf4 86. Rc7 Kd6 87. Rf7 Ke6 88. Kg8 Bh6 89. Rb7 Bg5 90. Kg7 Bf4 91. Rc7 Kd6 92. Rf7 Bg5 93. Rb7 Ke6 94. Kg8 Bh6 95. Rc7 Kd6 96. Rh7 Bg5 97. Rb7 Bf4 98. Kf8 Bg5 99. Ke8 Bf4 100. Rb5 Bg5 101. Kf7 Bh4 102. Kg6 Bg5 103. Kh5 Bf4 104. Kh4 Bg5+ 105. Kg4 Be3 106. Kf5 Bg5 107. Kg6 Bh4 108. Rb7 Bg5 109. Kg7 Bh4 110. Kf8 Bg5 111. Ke8 Bh4 112. Rb5 Bg5 113. Kf7 Bh4 114. Kg6 Bg5 115. Kh5 Be3 116. Kh4 Bg5+ 117. Kh3 Bf4 118. Rb7 Bg5 119. Kg2 Bf4 120. Kf2 Bg5 121. Rb5 Bf4 122. Kf3 Bg5 123. Kg4 Be3 124. Kf3 Bg5 125. Kg3 Bf4+ 126. Kg4 Be3 { The game is a draw. } 1/2-1/2[/pgn]

I would believe that LeelaQueenOdds has become "the teacher" of the humans. It will be up to humans to learn from LeelaQueenOdds how to play chess without the queen on the humans' side. If, for example, Nakamura considers that his level of play without his queen is 1800 Fide, LeelaQueenOdds teaches the ways of increasing human elo, I don't know in how many points, but I would believe that there will be many. The game with the pawns in the best Philidor style will take a lot life.

In this game I missed the fact that 43.Bg5 wins material.
After Bg5 I saw that Qxg5 lose the queen for 2 pieces but losing the knight is not better so accepted the loss of material.

I still had a winning endgame but considering the time control decided at that point of time that my best practical chance is not to try to win but to play for a draw.

It was a good game Uri. I hope you surpass "nn1133"... personally I think you deserve, from what I have observed, to occupy the first place in the table. Those who are stronger can choose between fighting or not fighting in the street ring. The streets and corners have their kings.

The human ranking means nothing for me because the best players did not play enough games to get the rating they can get.
I hope that I can surpass LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) and later
LeelaQueenOdds as white 5+3 (Reference) and LeelaQueenOdds as white 3+2 (Reference)

I believe that with the right training at least the first 2 targets are possible and maybe I am going to pay for somebody to help me to train for this target.

… The International Master Omnivor is hunting us...

1 nn1133 2223.3 6167
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2210.9
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2160.9
2 uriblass 2158.2 132
3 Ajktulm 2157.6 172
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2155.2
4 Catecan 2123.0 272
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2105.2
5 Omnivor 2079.4 15
6 Brunetticus 2070.1 382
7 Hissha 2047.1 54
8 KentGoulding 2022.3 253
9 TheLlamaLord 2012.1 21
10 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

[Uri Blass]

Other also get better the problem is that Leela is too predictable.

See my last 2 games against it when it repeated the same opening.
I did not care to memorize the last game so I played differently at some point(move 8) but the structure is similar.

https://lichess.org/XZBeBmjwgm3i
https://lichess.org/adaQDheSWLfw

In both games decided to sacrifice my knight for developement because I did not want to play passive with Ng8 or Nh5(I saw that I lose a piece when I allowed Re1)

Edit:I see that I could play Bxc3 instead of devloping my pieces in the games and did not consider it during the game.

1 nn1133 2223.3 6167
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2210.9
2 uriblass 2180.9 134
3 Ajktulm 2174.5 177
4 Omnivor 2163.5 18
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2160.9
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2155.2
5 Catecan 2123.0 272
6 Brunetticus 2110.3 404
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2105.2
7 Hissha 2047.1 54
8 KentGoulding 2018.8 254
9 TheLlamaLord 2010.3 22
10 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

[Father]

Other also get better the problem is that Leela is too predictable.

See my last 2 games against it when it repeated the same opening.
I did not care to memorize the last game so I played differently at some point(move 8) but the structure is similar.

https://lichess.org/XZBeBmjwgm3i
https://lichess.org/adaQDheSWLfw

In both games decided to sacrifice my knight for developement because I did not want to play passive with Ng8 or Nh5(I saw that I lose a piece when I allowed Re1)

Edit:I see that I could play Bxc3 instead of devloping my pieces in the games and did not consider it during the game.

1 nn1133 2223.3 6167
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2210.9
2 uriblass 2180.9 134
3 Ajktulm 2174.5 177
4 Omnivor 2163.5 18
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2160.9
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2155.2
5 Catecan 2123.0 272
6 Brunetticus 2110.3 404
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2105.2
7 Hissha 2047.1 54
8 KentGoulding 2018.8 254
9 TheLlamaLord 2010.3 22
10 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

[pgn] Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/8REwGljT"]
[Date "2024.11.17"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Respectful_Dave"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.11.17"]
[UTCTime "16:30:14"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2802"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[BlackTitle "CM"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d3 Nf6 3. e4 dxe4 4. dxe4 Nxe4 5. Nbd2 Nxd2 6. Bxd2 Nc6 7. O-O-O e5 8. Bg5 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 f6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. Kc1 O-O-O 12. Bc4 Bxf3 13. gxf3 Nd4 14. f4 exf4 15. Bxf4 Bd6 16. Be3 Nf5 17. Be6+ Kb8 18. Bxf5 c6 19. h4 b6 20. h5 h6 21. Rg1 Rhg8 22. Bh7 Rge8 23. Rxg7 Re7 24. Rxe7 Bxe7 25. Bxh6 Rh8 26. Bf4+ Kc8 27. Bg6 Kd8 28. h6 Bf8 29. h7 Bg7 30. Bf5 Ke7 31. Kd2 Kf7 32. Ke2 Rd8 33. Kf3 Rd5 34. Kg4 Bh8 35. b3 a5 36. Bc7 b5 37. Bxa5 Rc5 38. Bb6 Rc3 39. Bd4 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

[Father]

Other also get better the problem is that Leela is too predictable.

See my last 2 games against it when it repeated the same opening.
I did not care to memorize the last game so I played differently at some point(move 8) but the structure is similar.

https://lichess.org/XZBeBmjwgm3i
https://lichess.org/adaQDheSWLfw

In both games decided to sacrifice my knight for developement because I did not want to play passive with Ng8 or Nh5(I saw that I lose a piece when I allowed Re1)

Edit:I see that I could play Bxc3 instead of devloping my pieces in the games and did not consider it during the game.

1 nn1133 2223.3 6167
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2210.9
2 uriblass 2180.9 134
3 Ajktulm 2174.5 177
4 Omnivor 2163.5 18
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2160.9
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2155.2
5 Catecan 2123.0 272
6 Brunetticus 2110.3 404
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2105.2
7 Hissha 2047.1 54
8 KentGoulding 2018.8 254
9 TheLlamaLord 2010.3 22
10 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

[pgn] Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/8REwGljT"]
[Date "2024.11.17"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Respectful_Dave"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.11.17"]
[UTCTime "16:30:14"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2802"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[BlackTitle "CM"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d3 Nf6 3. e4 dxe4 4. dxe4 Nxe4 5. Nbd2 Nxd2 6. Bxd2 Nc6 7. O-O-O e5 8. Bg5 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 f6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. Kc1 O-O-O 12. Bc4 Bxf3 13. gxf3 Nd4 14. f4 exf4 15. Bxf4 Bd6 16. Be3 Nf5 17. Be6+ Kb8 18. Bxf5 c6 19. h4 b6 20. h5 h6 21. Rg1 Rhg8 22. Bh7 Rge8 23. Rxg7 Re7 24. Rxe7 Bxe7 25. Bxh6 Rh8 26. Bf4+ Kc8 27. Bg6 Kd8 28. h6 Bf8 29. h7 Bg7 30. Bf5 Ke7 31. Kd2 Kf7 32. Ke2 Rd8 33. Kf3 Rd5 34. Kg4 Bh8 35. b3 a5 36. Bc7 b5 37. Bxa5 Rc5 38. Bb6 Rc3 39. Bd4 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Master an player superior or better to 2800 Lichess Elo !!

[Uri Blass]

Other also get better the problem is that Leela is too predictable.

See my last 2 games against it when it repeated the same opening.
I did not care to memorize the last game so I played differently at some point(move 8) but the structure is similar.

https://lichess.org/XZBeBmjwgm3i
https://lichess.org/adaQDheSWLfw

In both games decided to sacrifice my knight for developement because I did not want to play passive with Ng8 or Nh5(I saw that I lose a piece when I allowed Re1)

Edit:I see that I could play Bxc3 instead of devloping my pieces in the games and did not consider it during the game.

1 nn1133 2223.3 6167
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2210.9
2 uriblass 2180.9 134
3 Ajktulm 2174.5 177
4 Omnivor 2163.5 18
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2160.9
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2155.2
5 Catecan 2123.0 272
6 Brunetticus 2110.3 404
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2105.2
7 Hissha 2047.1 54
8 KentGoulding 2018.8 254
9 TheLlamaLord 2010.3 22
10 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

[pgn] Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/8REwGljT"]
[Date "2024.11.17"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Respectful_Dave"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.11.17"]
[UTCTime "16:30:14"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2802"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[BlackTitle "CM"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d3 Nf6 3. e4 dxe4 4. dxe4 Nxe4 5. Nbd2 Nxd2 6. Bxd2 Nc6 7. O-O-O e5 8. Bg5 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 f6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. Kc1 O-O-O 12. Bc4 Bxf3 13. gxf3 Nd4 14. f4 exf4 15. Bxf4 Bd6 16. Be3 Nf5 17. Be6+ Kb8 18. Bxf5 c6 19. h4 b6 20. h5 h6 21. Rg1 Rhg8 22. Bh7 Rge8 23. Rxg7 Re7 24. Rxe7 Bxe7 25. Bxh6 Rh8 26. Bf4+ Kc8 27. Bg6 Kd8 28. h6 Bf8 29. h7 Bg7 30. Bf5 Ke7 31. Kd2 Kf7 32. Ke2 Rd8 33. Kf3 Rd5 34. Kg4 Bh8 35. b3 a5 36. Bc7 b5 37. Bxa5 Rc5 38. Bb6 Rc3 39. Bd4 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Master an player superior or better to 2800 Lichess Elo !!

Only in bullet

[Uri Blass]

Other also get better the problem is that Leela is too predictable.

See my last 2 games against it when it repeated the same opening.
I did not care to memorize the last game so I played differently at some point(move 8) but the structure is similar.

https://lichess.org/XZBeBmjwgm3i
https://lichess.org/adaQDheSWLfw

In both games decided to sacrifice my knight for developement because I did not want to play passive with Ng8 or Nh5(I saw that I lose a piece when I allowed Re1)

Edit:I see that I could play Bxc3 instead of devloping my pieces in the games and did not consider it during the game.

1 nn1133 2223.3 6167
LeelaQueenOdds as white 10+5 (Reference) 2210.9
2 uriblass 2180.9 134
3 Ajktulm 2174.5 177
4 Omnivor 2163.5 18
LeelaQueenOdds as black 10+5 (Reference) 2160.9
LeelaQueenOdds as white 15+10 (Reference) 2155.2
5 Catecan 2123.0 272
6 Brunetticus 2110.3 404
LeelaQueenOdds as black 15+10 (Reference) 2105.2
7 Hissha 2047.1 54
8 KentGoulding 2018.8 254
9 TheLlamaLord 2010.3 22
10 Punypawn315 1952.0 19

[pgn] Event "Casual bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/8REwGljT"]
[Date "2024.11.17"]
[White "LeelaQueenOdds"]
[Black "Respectful_Dave"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2024.11.17"]
[UTCTime "16:30:14"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2802"]
[WhiteTitle "BOT"]
[BlackTitle "CM"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. d3 Nf6 3. e4 dxe4 4. dxe4 Nxe4 5. Nbd2 Nxd2 6. Bxd2 Nc6 7. O-O-O e5 8. Bg5 Qxd1+ 9. Kxd1 f6 10. Be3 Bg4 11. Kc1 O-O-O 12. Bc4 Bxf3 13. gxf3 Nd4 14. f4 exf4 15. Bxf4 Bd6 16. Be3 Nf5 17. Be6+ Kb8 18. Bxf5 c6 19. h4 b6 20. h5 h6 21. Rg1 Rhg8 22. Bh7 Rge8 23. Rxg7 Re7 24. Rxe7 Bxe7 25. Bxh6 Rh8 26. Bf4+ Kc8 27. Bg6 Kd8 28. h6 Bf8 29. h7 Bg7 30. Bf5 Ke7 31. Kd2 Kf7 32. Ke2 Rd8 33. Kf3 Rd5 34. Kg4 Bh8 35. b3 a5 36. Bc7 b5 37. Bxa5 Rc5 38. Bb6 Rc3 39. Bd4 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]

Master an player superior or better to 2800 Lichess Elo !!

only in bullet.

https://lichess.org/@/Respectful_Dave

In blitz the player is less than 2500.

[kasinp]

I find it difficult to explain to my non-chess friends what it feels like to see these queen odds games.
Finally I came up with a way to express this (subjective) feeling: someone came up with a way to win at tic tac toe. What??? Exactly.

Cheers,
Peter

I like that, although it's not quite comparable because Leela "only" found a way to beat maybe 99% of the world's chess players giving them queen odds, not an actual win. So imagine someone coming up with a way to beat 99% of humans in tic tac toe, but not "grandmasters" of tic tac toe!

A nice take . It is more "precise" and the introduction of a "tic tac toe GM" highlights the unexpected

[kasinp]

I find it difficult to explain to my non-chess friends what it feels like to see these queen odds games.
Finally I came up with a way to express this (subjective) feeling: someone came up with a way to win at tic tac toe. What??? Exactly.

Cheers,
Peter

Good morning Peter. I feel transported to London and Berlin in the mid-19th century when I watch every game LeelaQueenOdds plays; the computer seems to draw a work of art with a brush, emulating the lines of play of the greats, Adolf Anderssen (white) and Lionel Kieseritzky (black) in London on June 21, 1851, and Adolf Anderssen - Jean Dufresne, 1852 in their game played in Berlin in 1852. LeelaQueenOdds could very well have the aliases of "The Immortal Machine" or "The Everlasting Machine". I too cannot find a way to explain to myself this new era of Odds chess. On the other hand, I am noticing that titled players are coming to the ring more and more. All this makes the battle between four worlds great and relevant. Happy day Peter.

I enjoyed your London 1851 take too. I do feel as if transported to a different dimension (different time?) when viewing these games.

Regards,
Peter

[Father]

I find it difficult to explain to my non-chess friends what it feels like to see these queen odds games.
Finally I came up with a way to express this (subjective) feeling: someone came up with a way to win at tic tac toe. What??? Exactly.

Cheers,
Peter

Good morning Peter. I feel transported to London and Berlin in the mid-19th century when I watch every game LeelaQueenOdds plays; the computer seems to draw a work of art with a brush, emulating the lines of play of the greats, Adolf Anderssen (white) and Lionel Kieseritzky (black) in London on June 21, 1851, and Adolf Anderssen - Jean Dufresne, 1852 in their game played in Berlin in 1852. LeelaQueenOdds could very well have the aliases of "The Immortal Machine" or "The Everlasting Machine". I too cannot find a way to explain to myself this new era of Odds chess. On the other hand, I am noticing that titled players are coming to the ring more and more. All this makes the battle between four worlds great and relevant. Happy day Peter.

I enjoyed your London 1851 take too. I do feel as if transported to a different dimension (different time?) when viewing these games.

Regards,
Peter

Peter. In these presentations of LeelaQueenOdds and chess computers, it seems that the entire history of chess is intertwined in one place: The ring: "The street quadrilateral." . Philidor, Kasparov, Deepblue, Kramnik. Nakamura, Fischer, Capablanca, Lasker, Steinitz Chigorin, Chess Challenger Level 7 from Fidelitl Electronics, and many others. I will always be grateful for the team of humans who are behind the creation of the giant LeelaQueenOdds.
Magical realism and science fiction. I wait with hope for the arrival of many fans and street players along with the titled players; I want to see them fight; Furthermore, I hope to soon observe a qualitative leap and a great increase in the power of LeelaQueenOdds that assaults the paradigms and transforms them.