Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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The forum has become a bit like Communist China.
You can stand to become a moderator only if you're rubber-stamped by the supreme leader(s).
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hgm wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:32 pm
AndrewGrant wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:27 pm Can we see your papers, sir?
What exactly is in my name that makes you think it people are very likely to draw the conclusion that it must be an attempt to mock anyone/anything?
I guess you really did ban me accidentally, as you seem to have missed the joke here.
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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AndrewGrant wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:55 pm Hi, I would like an explanation for why I was banned for a week earlier this month, for a comment that does not appear in any way to violate our sacred charter. I would never question the intentions of our leaders, so I may only assume that the ban was an accident, and not a highly targeted act with the foreknowledge of the blocking of rights to run for moderators for those banned. Such a thing would of course be against your own rules, as targeting the "Discord Invaders" ( A xenophobic turn of phrase I am afraid, but one popularized by our leaders ) is an act treated on par with nasty references to the relative age of users.

Please provide a reason for my ban here, as well as the text of the original post that was banned. I would love to reshare it here, to showcase the clear accidental ban to others, but since it was deleted, I cannot say for sure what it said verbatim.

Thanks.
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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AndrewGrant wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:17 pm
hgm wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:32 pm
AndrewGrant wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:27 pm Can we see your papers, sir?
What exactly is in my name that makes you think it people are very likely to draw the conclusion that it must be an attempt to mock anyone/anything?
I guess you really did ban me accidentally, as you seem to have missed the joke here.
Guess all you want. And I don't really see how your current signature can be taken as anything but an attempt to discredit moderation...
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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hgm wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:24 pm
AndrewGrant wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:17 pm
hgm wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:32 pm
AndrewGrant wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:27 pm Can we see your papers, sir?
What exactly is in my name that makes you think it people are very likely to draw the conclusion that it must be an attempt to mock anyone/anything?
I guess you really did ban me accidentally, as you seem to have missed the joke here.
Guess all you want. And I don't really see how your current signature can be taken as anything but an attempt to discredit moderation...
Revealing again that you see it that way. My signature is not intended to be weaponized.
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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Experience has shown that in your case we should always assume the worst. One must be very naive to expect constructivve behavior from you.
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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Graham Banks wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:15 pm The forum has become a bit like Communist China.
You can stand to become a moderator only if you're rubber-stamped by the supreme leader(s).
IMO chris and hgm only want to protect talkchess.
It needs a name. Verified. With a good standing.
In older times we all met in real life and were friends so we had no problems in elections.
Today it is not that easy because digitalisation also hunted computerchess.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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Graham Banks wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:15 pmThe forum has become a bit like Communist China.
Just as reality check - in New Zealand, already the active voting right for convicted people has been a debate, let alone the passive one:
https://www.corrections.govt.nz/our_wor ... _in_prison
The forum analogy here would have been that people who did receive a ban would not only be inable to run as moderattor candidates, but also to vote - so that would go even further.
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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Ras wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:54 pm
Graham Banks wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:15 pmThe forum has become a bit like Communist China.
Just as reality check - in New Zealand, already the active voting right for convicted people has been a debate, let alone the passive one:
https://www.corrections.govt.nz/our_wor ... _in_prison
Irrelevant to the point I was making, which was that the only ones seemingly able to stand for moderators must be approved of by the FG. That is not true democracy.

Being convicted for an actual crime is different to receiving a short term ban on a computer forum.
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Re: Questions for the FG about the organization of the election

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Graham Banks wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:59 pmBeing convicted for an actual crime is different to receiving a short term ban on a computer forum.
It is not. More to the point, how would posters who cannot even abide to the charter themselves be able to enforce the charter?
AndrewGrant wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:07 amOh my god the gaslighting is insane.
Correct, so you should probably stop doing it.
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