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Re: If you are interested....

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David Carteau wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:19 pm Thanks Sylwy for the tournament! At least, at this stage, there are some draws :P
Now a victory. And a few more heart attack-style misses. Superb result of the experiment. I can't wait for the sequel.

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Example of a clear missed victory. And she is not alone.

[pgn]
[Event "CHRISTMAS EXPERIMENT"]
[Site "ISR 3"]
[Date "2024.12.25"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Nostradamus_02_x64_ja"]
[Black "Frank 0.58"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "A43"]
[Opening "Old Benoni"]
[Time "21:25:34"]
[Variation "2.dxc5"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "240+2"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "74"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. d4 c5 {(c7-c5) -0.22/4 0} 2. dxc5 Qa5+ {(Qd8-a5) -0.40/4 0} 3. Nc3 Nc6
{(Nb8-c6) -0.50/4 0} 4. Nf3 e5 {(e7-e5) -0.43/4 0} 5. Bd2 Bxc5 {(Bf8xc5)
-0.39/4 0} 6. e3 Qb4 {(Qa5-b4) -0.33/4 0} 7. a3 Qg4 {(Qb4-g4) -0.52/4 0} 8.
h3 Qf5 {(Qg4-f5) -0.26/4 0} 9. Bd3 Qe6 {(Qf5-e6) -1.45/4 0} 10. O-O f5
{(f7-f5) -0.35/4 0} 11. b4 Bd6 {(Bc5-d6) -0.54/4 0} 12. Nb5 Nge7 {(Ng8-e7)
-0.58/4 2} 13. Nxd6+ Qxd6 {(Qe6xd6) -0.67/4 0} 14. Qe2 e4 {(e5-e4) +1.60/4
0} 15. Nd4 Nxd4 {(Nc6xd4) +2.69/4 0} 16. exd4 exd3 {(e4xd3) +1.50/4 0} 17.
cxd3 Qxd4 {(Qd6xd4) +2.47/4 0} 18. Rac1 Qd6 {(Qd4-d6) +2.41/4 0} 19. Rfe1
Kd8 {(Ke8-d8) +2.34/4 0} 20. Bg5 Re8 {(Rh8-e8) +1.53/4 0} 21. Qh5 a5
{(a7-a5) +1.91/4 0} 22. Qxh7 f4 {(f5-f4) -2.16/4 0} 23. Qxg7 Qg6 {(Qd6-g6)
-1.51/4 0} 24. Qxg6 Ra6 {(Ra8-a6) -13.58/4 0} 25. Qxe8+ Kxe8 {(Kd8xe8)
-M5/4 0} 26. bxa5 Re6 {(Ra6-e6) -8.55/4 0} 27. Rxe6 dxe6 {(d7xe6) -8.36/4
0} 28. Rc7 Bd7 {(Bc8-d7) -6.25/4 0} 29. Rxb7 Nd5 {(Ne7-d5) -6.12/4 0} 30.
a6 Bc6 {(Bd7-c6) -6.09/4 0} 31. Rb8+ Kf7 {(Ke8-f7) -6.23/4 0} 32. a7 Kg6
{(Kf7-g6) -8.35/4 0} 33. Bd8 Kh6 {(Kg6-h6) -8.37/4 0} 34. Rc8 Bb7 {(Bc6-b7)
-8.43/4 0} 35. Rb8 Bc6 {(Bb7-c6) -8.43/4 0} 36. Rc8 Bb7 {(Bc6-b7) -8.43/4
0} 37. Rb8 Bc6 {(Bb7-c6) -8.43/4 0 3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2
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Re: If you are interested....

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Sylwy wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:57 am [...]
Now a victory. And a few more heart attack-style misses. Superb result of the experiment. I can't wait for the sequel.
[...]
I trained the network(s) with only 81 million positions: adding more samples and adjusting the architecture should help to improve the strength. I wonder if training a network to predict not only the next move but a sequence of moves might help with such blunders. There's a lot to try/test!
Download the Orion chess engine --- Train your NNUE with the Cerebrum library --- Contribute to the Nostradamus experiment !
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Re: If you are interested....

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David Carteau wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:27 pm
Sylwy wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:57 am [...]
Now a victory. And a few more heart attack-style misses. Superb result of the experiment. I can't wait for the sequel.
[...]
I trained the network(s) with only 81 million positions: adding more samples and adjusting the architecture should help to improve the strength. I wonder if training a network to predict not only the next move but a sequence of moves might help with such blunders. There's a lot to try/test!
:D

....there was an indescribable rush of young people to sign up for this test-tournament....I also had to do some tests....
....young talents from all over the world flocked to test the new (and revolutionary) architecture of a chess engine....

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I can't wait for a new version to appear!
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Sylwy wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:38 pm ....there was an indescribable rush of young people to sign up for this test-tournament....I also had to do some tests....
....young talents from all over the world flocked to test the new (and revolutionary) architecture of a chess engine....
:D According to the current results, I'm far from having revolutionised anything! :P
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David Carteau wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:54 pm
Sylwy wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:38 pm ....there was an indescribable rush of young people to sign up for this test-tournament....I also had to do some tests....
....young talents from all over the world flocked to test the new (and revolutionary) architecture of a chess engine....
:D According to the current results, I'm far from having revolutionised anything! :P
The world (please, not all) revolves around Elo points. I really appreciate a nice move. Chess is also art...Moreover, Nostradamus is...something else...a trailblazer. I'm not wrong. Classical architecture has somewhat exhausted its potential.
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Sylwy wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:20 pm The world (please, not all) revolves around Elo points. I really appreciate a nice move. Chess is also art...Moreover, Nostradamus is...something else...a trailblazer. I'm not wrong. Classical architecture has somewhat exhausted its potential.
Sounds absolutely right. Why play the banal, simple best winning move when you can choose dozens of more artistic and losing ones? :)

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Any news on the tournament with Dog? Do you have an end-result? Am very eager to know :-)
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Brunetti wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:36 pm
Sylwy wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 9:20 pm The world (please, not all) revolves around Elo points. I really appreciate a nice move. Chess is also art...Moreover, Nostradamus is...something else...a trailblazer. I'm not wrong. Classical architecture has somewhat exhausted its potential.
Why play the banal, simple best winning move when you can choose dozens of more artistic and losing ones? :)
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:lol: ....art requires sacrifices....
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flok wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:39 pm Any news on the tournament with Dog? Do you have an end-result? Am very eager to know :-)
I am dedicating this weekend to art and young talents....since Monday I have been working hard with LazySMPTest (where the new Amy 0.9.6 will also be). Unfortunately, I only have one PC dedicated to chess.
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LazySMP Test after 2142 games:
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LazySMP 8.0 does not perform very well, so it was replaced with Amy 0.9.6 (marked in green - a great engine). Dog 2.5c (marked in blue) continues its way to the podium.

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Maybe (maybe :lol: ) I will add two more chess engines.

CHRISTMAS EXPERIMENT after 496 games:
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At the moment LazzySMP Test has priority.

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