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Should Computer Chess Club get a dedicated chess computer and vintage software Subforum ?

Poll ended at Tue Apr 29, 2025 8:20 pm

Yes , dedicated chess computer and vintage software are the roots of computerchess
36
69%
No, only new state of the art computerchess software is interesting here
8
15%
don’t know, don’t care
8
15%
 
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Re: Should Computer Chess Club get a dedicated chess computer subforum

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today in almost 2 years later i do continue the tournament with 2 new entries:

CT800 dedicated machine and DSChess on the Nintendo DSi.

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    Motor                                    Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaCTDS    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =       17,00
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1       15,25
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}       4,0/7  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1       10,75
03: Millennium The King 20mhz                4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1       10,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}        3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1       11,25
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}         3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =        9,75
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}    2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1        6,75
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}             1,0/7  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·        4,00
09: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}              0,0/0                  ·      0,00
09: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                    ·    0,00

28 Partien von 90 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
So we have the following programmers represented:

Marty Hirsch
Mark Uniacke
Dave Kittinger
Johan de Koning
Frans Morsch
Ed Schröder
Richard Lang
Dan + Kathe Spracklen
Althoff / Georgopoulos / Kervinck
Boris von Loesch / Fabian Letouzey

DSChess i by chance found a few days ago when i searched the internet.
Boris von Loesch adapted Fabians Fruit engine for the Nintendo DS console family.

Therefore i took out my old Nintendo DSi that had so far very lousy chess engines, and put
the homebrew DSChess on it.

https://www.vonloesch.de/dschess.html

if you are interested in images of the last 2 machines, i mirror the games in the german computerchess forum schachcomputer.info:
https://www.schachcomputer.info/forum/s ... 921&page=4
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The tournament has been enhanced with new entries:

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01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =               17,00
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1               15,25
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,0/7  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1               10,75
03: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1               10,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1               11,25
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =                9,75
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1                6,75
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,0/7  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·                4,00
09: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/0                  ·              0,00
09: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,0/0                    ·            0,00
09: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
09: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
09: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                            ·    0,00

28 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
this increases the list of programmers to:

Marty Hirsch
Mark Uniacke
Dave Kittinger
Johan de Koning
Frans Morsch
Ed Schröder
Richard Lang
Dan + Kathe Spracklen
Althoff / Georgopoulos / Kervinck
Boris von Loesch / Fabian Letouzey
Julio Kaplan
Chrilly Donninger
Steen Suurballe
Christophe Theron

First game today is Novag Star Diamond versus Chess Tiger 11.2.
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[pgn]
[Event "40/120 08-2023"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2025.06.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Novag Star Diamond"]
[Black "ChessTiger 11.2 486-66"]
[ECO "D19"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 c6 3. d4 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6
7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O Nbd7 9. Qe2 O-O 10. e4 Bg6 11. e5 Nd5
{"} 12. Bd2 Qa5 13. Nxd5 {"} cxd5 14. Bb5 Nb6 15. b3 Bxd2
16. Qxd2 Qxd2 17. Nxd2 a6 18. Be2 Rfc8 19. Rfc1 Rxc1+
20. Rxc1 Rc8 21. Rxc8+ Nxc8 22. f4 Ne7 23. Kf2 Kf8 24. g4
Nc6 25. Ke3 Nb4 26. Bd1 Ke7 27. h4 Bc2 28. Be2 f5 29. g5
Nc6 30. Bf3 Na5 31. b4 Nc6 32. b5 axb5 33. axb5 Na7 34. Be2
Ba4 35. b6 Nc8 36. Kd3 Bb5+ 37. Ke3 Bxe2 38. Kxe2 Nxb6
39. Kd3 Na4 40. Kc2 b5 41. Kb3 Kd7 42. Nf1 Nb6 43. Kb4 Kc6
44. Ng3 g6 45. Ne2 Nc4 46. Nc1 Nd2 47. Ka5 Nf3 48. Nb3 Kd7
49. Kxb5 Ke7 50. Kb4 Nxh4 51. Nc5 Ng2 52. Nd3 Ne3 53. Kc3
Ng4 54. Ne1 Nf2 55. Kd2 Ne4+ 56. Ke3 Kd7 57. Nd3 Kc6
58. Nb4+ Kb5 59. Nd3 Kc4 60. Nb2+ Kb4 61. Nd3+ Kb5 62. Nc1
Nc3 63. Nd3 Na4 64. Kd2 Kc6 65. Kc2 Kd7 66. Kb3 Nb6
67. Nc5+ Ke7 68. Kc3 Nc4 69. Kd3 Na5 70. Ke2 Nc6 71. Ke3
Nd8 72. Nd3 Kf8 73. Ne1 Kg7 74. Nf3 Nf7 75. Ne1 h6
76. gxh6+ Kxh6 77. Nd3 Nd8 78. Kf3 g5 79. fxg5+ Kxg5
80. Nf4 Kh6 81. Ke3 Kg7 82. Kd3 Kf7 83. Ke3 Nc6 84. Nh3 Nb4
85. Kd2 Ke8 86. Nf4 Kd7 87. Kc3 Nc6 88. Kd3 Na5 89. Ke2 Nb3
90. Ke3 Ke7 91. Ng6+ Kf7 92. Nf4 Na5 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

the game was a draw.

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    Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaChDSSaNiGaCT    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =               17,50
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1               15,50
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1 =             11,00
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1               11,25
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1               11,50
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =                9,75
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1                6,75
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,0/7  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·                4,00
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =           ·              2,25
10: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,0/0                    ·            0,00
10: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
10: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
10: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
10: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/0                            ·    0,00

29 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
the next game is between Saitek Sparc against DSChess on Nintendo DSi.
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The game Sparc vs. DSChess ended in a draw.

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 08-2023"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2025.06.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Saitek Sparc"]
[Black "DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi"]
[ECO "C43"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 Nxe4 4. Bd3 d5 5. Nxe5 Nd7
6. Nxd7 Bxd7 7. O-O Bd6 8. c4 c6 {"} 9. cxd5 cxd5 10. Nc3
Nxc3 11. bxc3 O-O 12. Qh5 g6 13. Qxd5 {"} Qc7 14. g3 Be6
15. Qf3 Qxc3 16. Bh6 Rfd8 17. Rfd1 Bf8 18. Bxf8 Bd5 19. Qf4
Rxf8 20. Be4 Qc4 21. Qe5 Bxe4 22. Qxe4 b5 23. Rdc1 Rae8
24. Qxe8 Rxe8 25. Rxc4 bxc4 26. Rc1 Rc8 27. Kf1 Kf8 28. Ke2
Ke7 29. Kd2 Ke6 30. Kc3 f5 31. Rb1 Rc7 32. Rb4 Kd5 33. Ra4
Re7 34. Ra5+ Kc6 35. Kxc4 Re2 36. Rxa7 Rxf2 37. Rxh7 Rxa2
38. Rh6 Ra4+ 39. Kc3 Kd5 40. Rxg6 Rc4+ 41. Kd3 Rxd4+
42. Ke2 f4 43. g4 Re4+ 44. Kf3 Re3+ 45. Kxf4 Rh3 46. Rg5+
Kd6 47. Rh5 Rxh5 48. gxh5 Ke6 49. Kg5 Kf7 50. Kh6 Kg8
51. Kg6 Kh8 52. h6 Kg8 53. Kf5 Kh8 54. h4 Kh7 55. Kg5 Kg8
56. Kg6 Kh8 57. h5 Kg8 58. Kf6 Kh7 59. Kg5 Kg8 60. Kg6 Kh8
1/2-1/2
[/pgn]

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   Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaChDSSaNiGaCT    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = 1 = =               17,75
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = = 1 1               16,00
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1 =             11,50
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = = 1 1               11,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · 0 = 1               12,00
06: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 · = =               10,00
07: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      2,5/7  = 0 0 0 = = · 1                7,25
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,5/8  = 0 0 0 0 = 0 ·   =            4,25
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =           ·              2,25
10: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,5/1                =   ·            0,75
11: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
11: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
11: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
11: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/0                            ·    0,00

30 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
the next game is between mephisto London and CT800 in a dedicated chess computer box like Mephisto 1-3 once was.
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and the game was won by Mephisto London 68000:
[pgn]
[Event "40/120 08-2023"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2025.06.11"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mephisto London 68000"]
[Black "CT800 "]
[ECO "A77"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6
7. Nf3 Bg7 {"} 8. Be2 O-O 9. O-O Re8 10. Nd2 Na6 11. f3 Nc7
12. a4 b6 13. Nc4 Ba6 14. Bg5 Qe7 15. Qd2 Qd7 16. b3 {"}
Nh5 17. Bd3 Bd4+ 18. Kh1 Rab8 19. Bh6 Bf6 20. Ne3 Bxd3
21. Qxd3 b5 22. Rab1 bxa4 23. bxa4 Rb4 24. Ng4 Bxc3
25. Qxc3 f5 26. Nf6+ Nxf6 27. Qxf6 a5 28. h3 Qe7 29. Qa1
fxe4 30. Rxb4 axb4 31. fxe4 Rb8 32. Qb2 Ra8 33. Rf6 Rd8
34. Kg1 b3 35. Rf2 Rb8 36. Qc3 c4 37. Bc1 Qxe4 38. Bb2 Qe5
39. Qxc4 Qe1+ 40. Rf1 Qe3+ 41. Kh2 Qc5 42. Qf4 {Schwarz
gibt auf.} 1-0
[/pgn]

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    Motor                                      Punkte McHiNoMiMeMeMeSaChDSSaNiGaCT    S-B
01: Mchess 8.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  · = 1 1 = = 1 =               18,25
02: Hiarcs 7.1 DOS 486-66 mhz                  5,0/7  = · = 1 = 1 = 1               17,00
03: Novag Star Diamond {Brettcomputer}         4,5/8  0 = · 0 = 1 1 1 =             12,50
04: Millennium The King 20mhz                  4,0/7  0 0 1 · = 1 = 1               12,75
05: Mephisto Magellan {Brettcomputer}          3,5/7  = = = = · = 0 1               12,50
06: Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer}      3,5/8  = 0 0 0 = · = 1           1    7,25
07: Mephisto Risc II {Brettcomputer}           3,0/7  0 = 0 = 1 = · =               10,50
08: Saitek Sparc {Brettcomputer}               1,5/8  = 0 0 0 0 0 = ·   =            4,25
09: ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer} 0,5/1      =           ·              2,25
10: DSChess 0.4 Nintendo DSi {Brettcomputer}   0,5/1                =   ·            0,75
11: Saitek D+ Phoenix full max {Brettcomputer} 0,0/0                      ·          0,00
11: Nimzo 3.5 DOS 486-66                       0,0/0                        ·        0,00
11: Gandalf3 DOS 486-66 {Brettcomputer}        0,0/0                          ·      0,00
11: CT800 v1.41 {Brettcomputer}                0,0/1            0               ·    0,00

31 Partien von 91 gespielt
Name des Turniers: 8-2023
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-H9UARSL, Germany
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
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