about playing queenforknight bot at 30+30

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Uri Blass
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about playing queenforknight bot at 30+30

Post by Uri Blass »

My result in the 9 games I played as white is 1 win 4 draws and 4 losses.

Here is my single win when I found good tactics at the end of the game

[d]7r/1kpR1p2/1p2p3/4Pn2/5P2/P1P3RP/P4QK1/1r6 w - - 3 39
I found by analysis with engines that it is mate in 13 and it seems all the moves were accurate.

I proved by chest that at least from move 40 I had no faster mate and I believe also I had no faster mate in move 39.

In my draws I was close to winning the game.
In 2 of the draws I think I missed a win in the endgame that I could probably play with more time on the clock and in the second 2 draws I went for repetition in a winning position when I understood that I am probably winning but was afraid to blunder in time trouble.


https://lichess.org/QqRsJSg2DgZP

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/QqRsJSg2"]
[Date "2025.09.10"]
[White "uriblass"]
[Black "LeelaQueenForKnight"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "QqRsJSg2"]
[UTCDate "2025.09.10"]
[UTCTime "03:27:52"]
[WhiteElo "2127"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "1800+30"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 b6 3. Nf3 Ne7 4. Bd3 Bb7 5. O-O h6 6. Qe2 g5 7. h3 Ng6 8. g3 a5 9. Ne5 Nxe5 10. dxe5 Nc6 11. f4 gxf4 12. gxf4 O-O-O 13. Ba6 Bc5+ 14. Kh2 Nd4 15. Bxb7+ Kxb7 16. Qd3 Nc6 17. c3 d6 18. exd6 Rxd6 19. Qe2 Rhd8 20. Be3 Bxe3 21. Qxe3 a4 22. Qf3 Rd3 23. Qg2 h5 24. Rf3 Rd2 25. Rf2 R2d3 26. Re1 h4 27. Rf3 Rd2 28. Re2 Rd1 29. Qg4 Rb1 30. Qxh4 Rdd1 31. Qf2 Rh1+ 32. Kg2 Rhd1 33. Rfe3 a3 34. bxa3 Rd8 35. Rd2 Rg8+ 36. Rg3 Rh8 37. e5 Ne7 38. Rd7 Nf5 39. Qf3+ Kb8 40. Qc6 Rc8 41. Rxc7 Nh4+ 42. Kf2 Rb2+ 43. Kf1 Rb1+ 44. Ke2 Rb2+ 45. Kd3 Rd8+ 46. Kc4 Rd4+ 47. Kxd4 Rd2+ 48. Kc4 b5+ 49. Kb3 Rb2+ 50. Kxb2 Ng6 51. Qb7# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0[/pgn]
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Re: about playing queenforknight bot at 30+30

Post by Uri »

Do these human wins against top chess engines not prove that humans are still better than the chess engines?

For example Dr. Lempel suggests, "The more we work with artificial intelligence, the more we appreciate just how impressive the brain is in quickly learning new information without making too many assumptions. The rapid sequence of developmental changes in circuit organization we've uncovered is one step forward in understanding the mechanisms that support the brain's capacity for rapid and flexible learning."

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-09- ... ently.html
Uri Blass
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Re: about playing queenforknight bot at 30+30

Post by Uri Blass »

Uri wrote: โ†‘Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:41 pm Do these human wins against top chess engines not prove that humans are still better than the chess engines?

For example Dr. Lempel suggests, "The more we work with artificial intelligence, the more we appreciate just how impressive the brain is in quickly learning new information without making too many assumptions. The rapid sequence of developmental changes in circuit organization we've uncovered is one step forward in understanding the mechanisms that support the brain's capacity for rapid and flexible learning."

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-09- ... ently.html
No

The win is not in equal conditions and I started with advantage of queen against knight.
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Re: about playing queenforknight bot at 30+30

Post by Father »

Uri Blass wrote: โ†‘Wed Sep 10, 2025 5:18 pm My result in the 9 games I played as white is 1 win 4 draws and 4 losses.

Here is my single win when I found good tactics at the end of the game

[d]7r/1kpR1p2/1p2p3/4Pn2/5P2/P1P3RP/P4QK1/1r6 w - - 3 39
I found by analysis with engines that it is mate in 13 and it seems all the moves were accurate.

I proved by chest that at least from move 40 I had no faster mate and I believe also I had no faster mate in move 39.

In my draws I was close to winning the game.
In 2 of the draws I think I missed a win in the endgame that I could probably play with more time on the clock and in the second 2 draws I went for repetition in a winning position when I understood that I am probably winning but was afraid to blunder in time trouble.


https://lichess.org/QqRsJSg2DgZP

[pgn][Event "casual classical game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/QqRsJSg2"]
[Date "2025.09.10"]
[White "uriblass"]
[Black "LeelaQueenForKnight"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "QqRsJSg2"]
[UTCDate "2025.09.10"]
[UTCTime "03:27:52"]
[WhiteElo "2127"]
[BlackElo "2000"]
[BlackTitle "BOT"]
[Variant "From Position"]
[TimeControl "1800+30"]
[ECO "?"]
[Opening "?"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[FEN "rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 b6 3. Nf3 Ne7 4. Bd3 Bb7 5. O-O h6 6. Qe2 g5 7. h3 Ng6 8. g3 a5 9. Ne5 Nxe5 10. dxe5 Nc6 11. f4 gxf4 12. gxf4 O-O-O 13. Ba6 Bc5+ 14. Kh2 Nd4 15. Bxb7+ Kxb7 16. Qd3 Nc6 17. c3 d6 18. exd6 Rxd6 19. Qe2 Rhd8 20. Be3 Bxe3 21. Qxe3 a4 22. Qf3 Rd3 23. Qg2 h5 24. Rf3 Rd2 25. Rf2 R2d3 26. Re1 h4 27. Rf3 Rd2 28. Re2 Rd1 29. Qg4 Rb1 30. Qxh4 Rdd1 31. Qf2 Rh1+ 32. Kg2 Rhd1 33. Rfe3 a3 34. bxa3 Rd8 35. Rd2 Rg8+ 36. Rg3 Rh8 37. e5 Ne7 38. Rd7 Nf5 39. Qf3+ Kb8 40. Qc6 Rc8 41. Rxc7 Nh4+ 42. Kf2 Rb2+ 43. Kf1 Rb1+ 44. Ke2 Rb2+ 45. Kd3 Rd8+ 46. Kc4 Rd4+ 47. Kxd4 Rd2+ 48. Kc4 b5+ 49. Kb3 Rb2+ 50. Kxb2 Ng6 51. Qb7# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0[/pgn]
Well donde Uri!! Congratullations. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.