Senpai 3.0 by Fabien LETOUZEY is available!

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Fabien,

I can add each time a new version on my site.

Jim like it to compare the own compiles with the compiles by the programmers.

In my opinion better ...
To add your own compiles in the Senpai download file and Jim can add his own compiles
on his Repro directory, if Jim do that.

Important is to create a new version number, like Senpai 3.0.1 for an example (of course
your decision).

Your own compiles for the RC1 = release version are 10% slower only.

Hint to Senpai 2.0:
Jim's Senpai 2.0 compiles are 40% faster but I didn't put his Senpai 2 compilations with
the other Senpai files.

Best
Frank

[Xann]

Hi Fabien,

I can add each time a new version on my site.

Jim like it to compare the own compiles with the compiles by the programmers.

In my opinion better ...
To add your own compiles in the Senpai download file and Jim can add his own compiles
on his Repro directory, if Jim do that.

Important is to create a new version number, like Senpai 3.0.1 for an example (of course
your decision).

Your own compiles for the RC1 = release version are 10% slower only.

Hint to Senpai 2.0:
Jim's Senpai 2.0 compiles are 40% faster but I didn't put his Senpai 2 compilations with
the other Senpai files.

Best
Frank

Yes Frank 3.0.1 and compile myself, I will do that.

Fabien.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Yes, and if you create a new eval file ...

I can add the eval file also very easy in the download directory.
If no new compilation is necessary for a new eval file, you could simply call the version Senpai 3.0.1.1 in this case.

Second eval update then 3.0.1.2
Think so ...

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi there,

Fabien sent Senpai 3.0.1.

1. Same download link.
https://www.amateurschach.de/download/_ ... rsions.zip (6.242Mb ... direct download link).

2. I removed Senpai 3.0 from the download directory. The JA versions have also been removed.
3. Insinde is a MAC and Windows executable by Fabien.

I will give Jim a hint in the release thread of TalkChess.

Best
Frank

[Tibono]

...
HCE can't be ML ... strictly speaking, or?
...

Hi Frank,
thanks for still hosting some interesting resources and letting us be aware; of course congrats & thanks to Fabien for the new Senpai.

I wonder if the question you raised wouldn't actually date back from the Rybka affair?
From my (fading) memory, Fabien's Fruit code had been more or less revamped (at least strongly suspected of) using evaluation weights finely tuned thru some heavy automation process involving powerful machines (PCs or servers). Wouldn't this qualify as "machine learning" (at least sort of)?

Warm regards,
Eric

[Xann]

...
HCE can't be ML ... strictly speaking, or?
...

Hi Frank,
thanks for still hosting some interesting resources and letting us be aware; of course congrats & thanks to Fabien for the new Senpai.

I wonder if the question you raised wouldn't actually date back from the Rybka affair?
From my (fading) memory, Fabien's Fruit code had been more or less revamped (at least strongly suspected of) using evaluation weights finely tuned thru some heavy automation process involving powerful machines (PCs or servers). Wouldn't this qualify as "machine learning" (at least sort of)?

Warm regards,
Eric

Hi Eric,

What I am proposing is to make a distinction between:

a manual eval that might or might not become tuned later (possibly using ML techniques)
and an eval that is designed for weight learning from the beginning.

Senpai 3's eval file has about 163,000 parameters. Does that really count as HCE? Those tables contain knowledge that I am not aware of. By contrast, Fruit was designed to contain few parameters, that I guessed.

Fabien.

[Roland Chastain]

Hi everybody. Thanks for the new version of Senpai.

When I try to compile under Linux (using the first command-line example provided in compile.txt), I get this error:

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   Compiling senpai_301 v3.0.1 (/home/roland/Documents/echecs/sources/moteurs/senpai-versions/v3.0.1)
error[E0583]: file not found for module `game`
 --> src/main.rs:5:1
  |
5 | mod game;
  | ^^^^^^^^^
  |
  = help: to create the module `game`, create file "src/game.rs" or "src/game/mod.rs"
  = note: if there is a `mod game` elsewhere in the crate already, import it with `use crate::...` instead

error[E0583]: file not found for module `util`
 --> src/main.rs:8:1
  |
8 | mod util;
  | ^^^^^^^^^
  |
  = help: to create the module `util`, create file "src/util.rs" or "src/util/mod.rs"
  = note: if there is a `mod util` elsewhere in the crate already, import it with `use crate::...` instead

error[E0432]: unresolved import `super::Key`
 --> src/engine/eval/cache.rs:4:13
  |
4 | use super::{Key, Score};
  |             ^^^ no `Key` in `engine::eval`
  |
  = help: consider importing this unresolved item through its public re-export instead:
          crate::engine::Key

Some errors have detailed explanations: E0432, E0583.
For more information about an error, try `rustc --explain E0432`.
error: could not compile `senpai_301` (bin "senpai_301") due to 3 previous errors

[Xann]

Hi everybody. Thanks for the new version of Senpai.

When I try to compile under Linux (using the first command-line example provided in compile.txt), I get this error:

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   Compiling senpai_301 v3.0.1 (/home/roland/Documents/echecs/sources/moteurs/senpai-versions/v3.0.1)
error[E0583]: file not found for module `game`
 --> src/main.rs:5:1
  |
5 | mod game;
  | ^^^^^^^^^
  |
  = help: to create the module `game`, create file "src/game.rs" or "src/game/mod.rs"
  = note: if there is a `mod game` elsewhere in the crate already, import it with `use crate::...` instead

error[E0583]: file not found for module `util`
 --> src/main.rs:8:1
  |
8 | mod util;
  | ^^^^^^^^^
  |
  = help: to create the module `util`, create file "src/util.rs" or "src/util/mod.rs"
  = note: if there is a `mod util` elsewhere in the crate already, import it with `use crate::...` instead

error[E0432]: unresolved import `super::Key`
 --> src/engine/eval/cache.rs:4:13
  |
4 | use super::{Key, Score};
  |             ^^^ no `Key` in `engine::eval`
  |
  = help: consider importing this unresolved item through its public re-export instead:
          crate::engine::Key

Some errors have detailed explanations: E0432, E0583.
For more information about an error, try `rustc --explain E0432`.
error: could not compile `senpai_301` (bin "senpai_301") due to 3 previous errors

Hi Roland,

OK I just checked and it compiles here. If I type 'tree src/', it shows (other parts truncated):

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...
├── game
│   ├── attack.rs
│   ├── bb.rs
│   ├── board.rs
│   ├── game.rs
│   ├── gen_.rs
│   ├── hash.rs
│   ├── legal.rs
│   ├── mod.rs
│   ├── pawn.rs
│   ├── rule.rs
│   └── square.rs
...

so game/mod.rs does exist in my archive. Same for 'util'. I downloaded Frank's archive, it seems fine too.

For now, my diagnostic would be that your 'src' tree is incomplete, maybe contains only one level?

Fabien.

[Roland Chastain]

Thank you Fabien. I was at office when I downloaded the ZIP, and the security program deleted the EXE file. Maybe it deleted also some RS files. I will download again the ZIP when I am at home and retry to build.

[Roland Chastain]

I will download again the ZIP when I am at home and retry to build.

Compilation successful. Sorry for the wrong error report.