Mini-TCEC Gui
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bastiball
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
Thanks for the feedback, expect fix updates this week. Feel free to post all the feedbacks here so I can fixes all the crashes and bugs since it's still early in development.
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rulleeeee
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
How can I configure the engines? Thread count, etc.? Because for now, they're running on standard settings.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
Stability is always the most important thing.
The most important option is a tournament file that can also be edited with an editor. We introduced this with Arena, and Stefan asked us if he could take it over. He did, and much better than we had introduced it. I had no idea about this at the time; Martin came up with it all by himself.
The *.sto file.
Unique and unsurpassed, the UCI mother GUI Shredder.
The knockout criterion for so many other GUIs for me, because only the Shredder GUI does this to perfection.
Why?
Because Stefan made everything network-compatible. Multiple computers can play in a tournament. The network things are on the ToDo list for Arena before my work ended for Arena.
It is also important that all PGN standards are implemented without any changes from the orginal standards.
What I learned from Martin during the Arena period was that even the most attractive options always led to instability. An Eng-Eng GUI does not need to have many options. During the development of Arena, we had gone overboard, and Martin needed half the development time just to check stability and keep the number of running processes low. He was a master at that... anyway, we had gone overboard with the ideas we implemented.
Before I quit and left, Martin was working on an exciting idea. We wanted to change every area of the GUI for the viewer's perspective. That was my biggest wish for Arena.
For example, the eval only displayed oversized, or other things from the main variant that could be important. That was awesome, I tested it on a big TV, just awesome how the windows moved to a specific place with just one click during a match. With one view I can see what is important, I am sitting 5 meters away from the TV.
The couch potato features for 100% engine lovers.
This version of Arena was never released, and I often think about installing it. But after the Arena era, I never installed the GUI again. Time was over for me.
What you do have a lot of potential in my eays.
Believe me, not the quantity of features is important ... much more important is stability again and again.
In 4.8 million of games I produced with Shredder GUI (my own database for eng-eng) I saw 5 crashes ... comes not from an engine! That is stability. Speaking from Shredder 12 GUI, not from Shredder 13 GUI. Arena itself was never in the near of such a strong stability. And it was my fault, because I kept bothering Martin with new things. I think we exchanged a few thousand emails.
The most important option is a tournament file that can also be edited with an editor. We introduced this with Arena, and Stefan asked us if he could take it over. He did, and much better than we had introduced it. I had no idea about this at the time; Martin came up with it all by himself.
The *.sto file.
Unique and unsurpassed, the UCI mother GUI Shredder.
The knockout criterion for so many other GUIs for me, because only the Shredder GUI does this to perfection.
Why?
Because Stefan made everything network-compatible. Multiple computers can play in a tournament. The network things are on the ToDo list for Arena before my work ended for Arena.
It is also important that all PGN standards are implemented without any changes from the orginal standards.
What I learned from Martin during the Arena period was that even the most attractive options always led to instability. An Eng-Eng GUI does not need to have many options. During the development of Arena, we had gone overboard, and Martin needed half the development time just to check stability and keep the number of running processes low. He was a master at that... anyway, we had gone overboard with the ideas we implemented.
Before I quit and left, Martin was working on an exciting idea. We wanted to change every area of the GUI for the viewer's perspective. That was my biggest wish for Arena.
For example, the eval only displayed oversized, or other things from the main variant that could be important. That was awesome, I tested it on a big TV, just awesome how the windows moved to a specific place with just one click during a match. With one view I can see what is important, I am sitting 5 meters away from the TV.
The couch potato features for 100% engine lovers.
This version of Arena was never released, and I often think about installing it. But after the Arena era, I never installed the GUI again. Time was over for me.
What you do have a lot of potential in my eays.
Believe me, not the quantity of features is important ... much more important is stability again and again.
In 4.8 million of games I produced with Shredder GUI (my own database for eng-eng) I saw 5 crashes ... comes not from an engine! That is stability. Speaking from Shredder 12 GUI, not from Shredder 13 GUI. Arena itself was never in the near of such a strong stability. And it was my fault, because I kept bothering Martin with new things. I think we exchanged a few thousand emails.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
It was really a nice time.
I am install Arena in a coffee club in the near of Trier for one day. The people were thrilled and could see everything from every seat. Visitors ask me a million questions. The ladies mostly cheered on the engine with the most beautiful name. The men began placing bets on who would win. What the people can see in the coffee shop are only the most important infos to a match. They watched intently to see what the engines were doing. And I build new ideas for Martin ... few days later I had enough from Arena for different reasons.
I believe the only one have this version of Arena is a chess club in NewCaledonia. Completly crazy persons I think, more as I.

You know, I am active in a forum in Tonga and give information about Arena. The people in Tonga thinking ... the crazy German guy come again and told us things around Arena. But one day ... I believe ... they liked me.
You know, Oceania beat England ... around the year 2000 ... chess olympiad.
Most fun with people here and with all the crazy people from Argentina.
One day an Arena report was on the front page of an Argentine daily newspaper.
With the results that we got on this day 35.000 hits on our website from Argentina.
Reason are the webmasters from the big chess-info-page in Argentina.
Webmasters created every day new interesting ideas for the visitors.
I like the guys in Argentina so much, people with a lot of fantasy.
Fantasy is most important for each GUI developing.
I had contact with all of the webmaster from chess pages around the world.
Michael Diosi and I are working on a big link selection.
This was the main reaons and secret why Arena was successfull.
I am so crazy at this time with things around Arena.
Now I am looking on your GUI, the ideas from TCEC and thinking ... wow.
A new GUI era. Really a very nice work for looking.
I am install Arena in a coffee club in the near of Trier for one day. The people were thrilled and could see everything from every seat. Visitors ask me a million questions. The ladies mostly cheered on the engine with the most beautiful name. The men began placing bets on who would win. What the people can see in the coffee shop are only the most important infos to a match. They watched intently to see what the engines were doing. And I build new ideas for Martin ... few days later I had enough from Arena for different reasons.
I believe the only one have this version of Arena is a chess club in NewCaledonia. Completly crazy persons I think, more as I.
You know, I am active in a forum in Tonga and give information about Arena. The people in Tonga thinking ... the crazy German guy come again and told us things around Arena. But one day ... I believe ... they liked me.
You know, Oceania beat England ... around the year 2000 ... chess olympiad.
Most fun with people here and with all the crazy people from Argentina.
One day an Arena report was on the front page of an Argentine daily newspaper.
With the results that we got on this day 35.000 hits on our website from Argentina.
Reason are the webmasters from the big chess-info-page in Argentina.
Webmasters created every day new interesting ideas for the visitors.
I like the guys in Argentina so much, people with a lot of fantasy.
Fantasy is most important for each GUI developing.
I had contact with all of the webmaster from chess pages around the world.
Michael Diosi and I are working on a big link selection.
This was the main reaons and secret why Arena was successfull.
I am so crazy at this time with things around Arena.
Now I am looking on your GUI, the ideas from TCEC and thinking ... wow.
A new GUI era. Really a very nice work for looking.
Last edited by Frank Quisinsky on Tue Jan 06, 2026 11:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Elorejano
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
Hi! Its only for UCI engines? Ive made a match betwin two winboard engines and it aborted aal the games.
And where is the engines settings?
Thanks in advance
And where is the engines settings?
Thanks in advance
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bastiball
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
Thanks for the feedback and the GUI is still premature and all the bugs will be fix and features will be implemented 
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
GUI looks incredible good. When is engine settings planned to be added ?
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bastiball
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
New look for the next version. Still Under testing and a lot of changes will be apply.


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Krzysztof Grzelak
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Re: Mini-TCEC Gui
Thank you for the information bastiball.