Toga II 1.3.4 and Toga II 1.3.1 download links

[Daniel Charles]

Thanks Graham

for the Links .

I upload The 2 last Toga On the website Now.

Williams Whomery sent me some learning Toga for a While and Right now It looks stronger and stronger after 2-3 months ....

However It needs maybe 2-3 more months to have a Very good Learning files ...

If some testers want to Give it a try before I released them, Just PM Me.


Thanks

Daniel

[BBauer]

There are still some problems in using egbbs.
TogaII134(DM1-Compile) doesn't use egbbs for me.
TogaII134(DM2-Compile) doesn't use egbbs for me.
TogaII134(DM3-Compile) doesn't use egbbs for me.
TogaII134(DM4-Compile) doesn't use egbbs for me.

However there is a good news too:
TogaII(Original1.3x4b compile) uses egbbs.

kind regards
Bernhard

[Edward German]

Thanks to all for these new Togas! But I need to ask something:

Which compiles are suggested for an Intel D945 CPU, and which for an AMD AthlonXP 1900+ (older CPUs).

Also, what about the 3- and 4-piece bitbases (only), with version 1.3.4?

Hello Mike,

For Intel D945 my guess is you could just use the DM 3 compile because it is meant for the P IV, that is closest to the Intel D945. For AMD I think just use the DM2 for 32 bit Windows. But to be honest most speed differences, for the working versions with the respective processors that is, seem to be marginal in the list that Dennis supplied with the compiles.

About the bitbases my guess is that Toga 1.3.4 only works with the latest DLL from Daniel Shawul, and I seem to remember that DLL only works with all the Scorpio 5 men bitbases installed. The 5 men bitbase are 340 Mb I believe, so still manageable for a fair sized harddisk. You can do some experimenting but I fear Toga 1.3.4 will not work very well with just the 3 and 4 men bitbases. But I have not yet tried myself whether everything works!

Eelco

Correct!

First: In my eyes the version 1.3.4 is stronger in the analysis mode, that is only my opinion.

I have downloads (from Scorpio Homepage) all 3+4+5 men egbb's, and Toga II 1.3.4 works fine with this 360 MB 5-men full ending pieces.

[George Bodkin]

Whats the difference between DM1,DM2,DM3 and dm4.

Thanks
George

[Eelco de Groot]

Whats the difference between DM1,DM2,DM3 and dm4.

Thanks
George

Hello George,

The differences are probably very small but the idea was to make different compilations for different processors, using some processor instructions that are not standard. So it depends on what processor you have in your computer whether one of these versions will run on it (and the DM versions apparently are not supported by Windows 98). Dennis Mendoza has described the differences in the textfile that should be there along with the different versions: compiles.txt.

Speed differences are very very small and probably very hard to measure reliably, but not every version will run on your computer. If you have an AMD computer you will probably be fine with version DM 2 , also for older Intel PIII processors. There is another version for Intel P IV and one that is slightly better on Intel Core duo or Intel Centrino. Then there is the original compile that should work on most computers. My suggestion is to just try one of these that seems close to what you got, and if it works, it is probably not worth the effort to try one of the other compiles.

Regards, Eelco

P.S. For some reason a bitbase path like D:\egbb5\egbb or D:\egbb5\egbb does not work on my computer, when all 5 men bitbases and the DLL are in that last \egbb folder both on C: and on D: drive, but it works when I change it to
D:\egbb5\egbb\ or C:\egbb5\egbb\
Not sure why this is so, maybe because of another copy of the DLL that I put in the egbb5 directory?

[Henrik Dinesen]

The differences are probably very small but the idea was to make different compilations for different processors, using some processor instructions that are not standard. So it depends on what processor you have in your computer whether one of these versions will run on it

Hehe - it's very conciderate... I guess I'm not the only one with more than computer, and a sweet selection of different CPU's

[Henrik Dinesen]

Thx Graham,

We didn't say it load...but, very patiently we waited;)
Anyway, the occurance of the new Fruits made a lot easier to me

[Graham Banks]

Thx Graham

Actually the thanks should go to Fabien, Thomas and Shaun.
All I did was give the download links.

Regards, Graham.

[Shaun]

I think I now know why authors typically do not offer compiles targeted at hardware...

The results in the compiles.txt followed a couple of hundred hours of testing and were not 100% conclusive and did not cover all processor or o/s combinations

Basically analysis was run from a fixed position to a target depth for each compile and the time to ply compared.

Even on a machine with everything else stopped multiple runs produce slightly different results...

In my view Toga 1.3.1 is stronger for engine matches adjust the settings for blitz info in readme.

For endgame positions 1.3.4 is stronger even without egbbs according to tests I ran.

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Toga II endgame test suite results.

Using the Eigenmann_Endspiel_Test 100 positions - thanks!!! 

All tests 256mb Hash

P4 2.6ghz 768mb


Toga II 1.3x4b
 
       without  with 5egbbs    with 5egbbs    with 5egbbs
                (16mb cache)   (32mb cache)  (256mb cache)
30sec   38/100     37/100         37/100          36/100
90sec   52/100     57/100         57/100          56/100 
5min    70/100     71/100         71/100          71/100
15min   76/100     80/100         80/100          80/100
60min   83/100     85/100                         85/100


Toga II 1.3x4b (settings)

with 5egbbs 16mb cache

                             HT70       HT70
        HT80       HT70     TEHPoff   (512mb) 
30sec   35/100    38/100    34/100     38/100
90sec   58/100    57/100    54/100     56/100
5min    74/100    74/100    75/100     76/100
15min   81/100    81/100    78/100     82/100
60min   84/100    86/100    85/100     89/100


Toga II 1.3x4

       without  with 5egbbs(16mb cache)
30sec   39/100     38/100
90sec   52/100     52/100
5min    72/100     72/100
15min   76/100     76/100
60min   82/100     85/100


Toga II 1.3beta1 (settings)

                    HT75
       default     TEHPon
30sec   32/100     33/100
90sec   50/100     49/100
5min    59/100     66/100
15min   71/100     74/100
60min   79/100     80/100

I hope you enjoy Toga - thanks again Thomas.

Shaun

[James Constance]

I upload The 2 last Toga On the website Now.

The links on your site aren't working for me!