Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
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Tony Thomas
Re: Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
One more win, or two more draws, and the game goes to Zappa. Can Rybka do the almost impossible? I cant wait.
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swami
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Re: Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
Zappa has 3.5 out of 5, it needs 2 more wins or 4 more drawsTony Thomas wrote:One more win, or two more draws, and the game goes to Zappa. Can Rybka do the almost impossible? I cant wait.
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Ovyron
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Re: Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
I think the other several hundred games were by Zap Zanzibar, and this is Zappa Mexico.SzG wrote:In fact, even if this ends 8.5-1.5, we can't ignore the other several hundred games.
Your beliefs create your reality, so be careful what you wish for.
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George Tsavdaris
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Re: Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
I wouldn't say them kids, the people that want to find excuses for losses of their favourite supporting thing, whatever this thing is.Daniel Mehrmann wrote:gerold wrote:Fanboy(Fanboi)mclane wrote:fanboys ?
Extremely serious about Rybka being the best.
Males utterly devoted to Rybka.
Or in other words just stupid kids, which find every time new excuses if rybka doesn't win a game.![]()
I have seen these kind of excuses happen in a broad area of such things. From Chess program's fans, to fans of a Formula 1 team, to fans of a basketball team etc....
The passionate supporters always find the most ridiculous excuses and they are doing it repeatedly, and i assure you that they are not kids. In fact they are clever people, even too clever like professors, teachers, mathematicians, etc.
When they do not talk about their favourite team, etc they are perfectly logical. Whey they talk they do like kinds....
After his son's birth they've asked him:
"Is it a boy or girl?"
YES! He replied.....
"Is it a boy or girl?"
YES! He replied.....
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Uri Blass
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Re: Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
40/40 games were already playedSzG wrote:Look at this, for example: http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/Ovyron wrote:I think the other several hundred games were by Zap Zanzibar, and this is Zappa Mexico.SzG wrote:In fact, even if this ends 8.5-1.5, we can't ignore the other several hundred games.
I know it's blitz, 40/40 games are hard to pruduce by the hundred.
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.l ... t_all.html
1 Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 4CPU 3116 +26 −25 73.5% −158.8 37.5% 546
2 Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 2CPU 3098 +25 −25 77.9% −190.8 36.3% 603
3 Zappa Mexico 64-bit 4CPU 3091 +62 −62 50.0% −0.5 48.6% 74
4 Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 3071 +21 −20 76.5% −190.1 32.2% 947
5 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 64-bit 4CPU 3050 +22 −22 64.6% −91.0 46.4% 679
Zappa Mexico 64-bit 4CPU-Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 4CPU 14,5-17.5
Zappa Mexico 64-bit 4CPU– Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 22.5-19.5
For comparison in the blitz list we have:
1)Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 4CPU 3129 +87 −81 71.4% −141.0 32.7% 49
73.0%
2)Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 2CPU 3102 +14 −14 76.1% −186.5 32.6% 2039
3) Rybka 2.3.2a 64-bit 3081 +24 −24 78.7% −204.3 30.5% 696
65.8%
4)Zappa Mexico 64-bit 4CPU 3031 +26 −25 65.1% −108.7 37.5% 520
5) Zap!Chess Zanzibar 64-bit 4CPU 3019 +15 −15 61.1% −73.7 41.7% 1400
You can see that longer time control help zap relative to rybka.
It is not based on a single version but based on both versions.
Note that the longer time control improvement confirmed also by cegt(I could not check the case of 4 processors so I checked only the case of 2 and I could not check the case of mexico so I checked only zanzibar but
it seems that mexico earns more than zanzibar from longer time control)
cegt 40/4
1 Rybka 2.3.2 mp x64 2CPU 3030 24 23 650 75.0 % 2839 31.8 %
19 Zap!Chess Zanzibar x64 2CPU 2881 19 19 801 54.4 % 2851 36.6 %
+149 elo
cegt 40/20
2 Rybka 2.3.2a x64 2CPU WM-2007 3055 14 14 1708 74.5 % 2869 35.9 10 Zap!Chess Zanzibar x64 4CPU 2998 22 22 501 55.5 % 2960 48.7 %
15 Zappa Mexico x64 2CPU 2957 20 20 692 61.3 % 2877 40.0 %
20 Zap!Chess Zanzibar x64 2CPU 2934 12 12 1810 56.9 % 2886 42.5 %
+121 elo
cegt 40/120
1 Rybka 2.3.2a 64 2CPU 3050 18 18 1000 77.2 % 2837 36.3 %
5 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 64 2CPU 2936 15 15 1143 62.9 % 2845 46.1 %
+114 elo
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Ovyron
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Re: Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
I think Zappa Mexico is close, I wonder if it beats Rybka at 8 cores (Like, on the match so far).
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Tony Thomas
Re: Game 5 Zappa vs Rybka
For some reason I thought it was an 8 game match. Now it has 4/6, so I guess if it can manage 3 more draws...swami wrote:Zappa has 3.5 out of 5, it needs 2 more wins or 4 more drawsTony Thomas wrote:One more win, or two more draws, and the game goes to Zappa. Can Rybka do the almost impossible? I cant wait.