CCT 10:Round 1 Pairings up!

[swami]

Is this a serious tournament?
How games can be finished with 0:0 result?


5 Naum, (5) 0:0 Symbolic, (20)
18 ZCT, (28) 0:0 Weid, (27)

If programs are not ready to play they should not play in the tournament and not get 0:0 result.

Uri

in the past, late joins were allowed. Even in real life tourneys, we have rules like getting 1/2 a point for not attending the particular day due to some other reason, and you have to inform the arbiter about it before the start of the tournament.

[George Tsavdaris]

Is this a serious tournament?
How games can be finished with 0:0 result?


5 Naum, (5) 0:0 Symbolic, (20)
18 ZCT, (28) 0:0 Weid, (27)

If programs are not ready to play they should not play in the tournament and not get 0:0 result.

What does 0:0 result means? Does it mean a draw?

So why do you think it is strange that 5 and 18 games could not be draws? If indeed a 0:0 means a draw, because i suspect it does not mean a draw and it means that no program managed to play so it will not get any points.
In that case i agree that it is not good to play the tournament and the organizer should give more time to the authors to solve the problems.

[swami]

Tornado author told me he was working on it everyday and it is now much improved...it now supports mp it seems and is playing with 2 threads.

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[Event "?"]
[Site "chessclub.com"]
[Date "26/1/2008"]
[Time "17:32:28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "TwistedLogicCCT"]
[Black "Tornado-C"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "2421"]
[Opening "A33 English symmetrical, Geller variation"]

1. c4 {0.00/0 0.7 } 1... Nf6 2. Nf3 {0.00/0 0.0 } 2... c5 3. Nc3 {0.00/0 0.6 }
3... Nc6 4. d4 {0.00/0 0.6 } 4... cxd4 5. Nxd4 {0.00/0 0.0 } 5... e6 6. g3 {0.00/0
0.2 } 6... Qb6 7. Ndb5 {0.00/0 0.6 } 7... Ne5 8. Bg2 {0.00/0 0.0 } 8... a6 9. Na3
{0.00/0 0.0 } 9... Bxa3 10. bxa3 {0.00/0 0.6 } 10... Nxc4 11. Bg5 {0.00/0 0.0 }
11... d5 12. O-O {0.00/0 0.0 } 12... O-O 13. Rc1 {0.00/0 0.0 } 13... Ne5 14. Bf4
{-0.29/16 01:44.4 } 14... Nc6 15. e4 {-0.30/17 01:40.0 } 15... dxe4 16. Be3
{-0.31/17 4.0 } 16... Qc7 17. Qb3 {-0.21/17 7.4 } 17... Qe5 18. Rfe1 {-0.21/17
2.1 } 18... a5 19. Nxe4 {0.10/16 01:37.1 } 19... Nxe4 20. Bf4 {0.11/18 12.9 }
20... a4 21. Qc2 {0.09/17 28.7 } 21... Qh5 22. Qxe4 {0.11/17 16.0 } 22... f6
23. Qc4 {-0.02/14 01:32.9 } 23... Ra6 24. Red1 {0.36/14 01:29.0 } 24... Kh8
25. Bf1 {0.23/16 01:26.7 } 25... Ra8 26. Be2 {0.21/17 13.5 } 26... Qf5 27. Rd6
{0.39/15 01:23.1 } 27... e5 28. Be3 {0.00/15 01:20.0 } 28... e4 29. Bd1 {0.00/16
01:16.6 } 29... Ne5 30. Qd5 {0.00/15 11.5 } 30... Re8 31. Rd8 {-0.18/15 01:15.7 }
31... Bd7 32. Rxe8+ {-0.19/15 01:13.6 } 32... Rxe8 33. Qxb7 {-0.19/15 01:09.4 }
33... Nf3+ 34. Bxf3 {0.04/9 01:08.1 } 34... exf3 35. Rd1 {0.00/17 01:04.3 }
35... Be6 36. Qc6 {0.09/12 01:04.7 } 36... Bg8 37. Rc1 {0.00/12 01:02.5 } 37... Rd8
38. Qb7 {-0.39/10 01:00.7 } 38... Rd3 39. Qc6 {-1.15/13 58.9 } 39... Qh3 40. Qxf3
{-6.53/14 56.1 } 40... Bd5 41. Qxd5 {-6.61/12 53.0 } 41... Rxd5 42. f4 {-6.57/11
51.8 } 42... Qd7 43. h3 {-8.06/15 51.2 } 43... Rd3 44. Re1 {-8.98/16 0.5 } 44... Qxh3
45. Bf2 {-9.44/16 49.4 } 45... h5 46. Re7 {-8.55/11 48.8 } 46... h4 47. gxh4
{-10.43/10 46.6 } 47... Qg4+ 48. Kf1 {-10.43/9 0.9 } 48... Qf3 49. Kg1 {-9.49/7
45.8 } 49... Rd2 50. Re2 {0.00/1 04:08.7 } 50... Qxe2 51. Kh1 {0.00/1 35.8 }
51... Qxf2 52. h5 {0.00/1 0.4 } 52... Rd1# {TwistedLogicCCT checkmated} 0-1

[swami]

Round 2 pairing is up!
http://cctchess.com/r2.htm

[PauloSoare]

Can I see the games on real time? Where?

Thanks,

Paulo Soares

hop in to ICC 3 hours later.

Games on real time in ChessOk.

http://chessok.com

[Marek Soszynski]

http://www.chessok.com/broadcast/live.html
2008 -> cct10

[bob]

Is this a serious tournament?
How games can be finished with 0:0 result?


5 Naum, (5) 0:0 Symbolic, (20)
18 ZCT, (28) 0:0 Weid, (27)

If programs are not ready to play they should not play in the tournament and not get 0:0 result.

What does 0:0 result means? Does it mean a draw?

So why do you think it is strange that 5 and 18 games could not be draws? If indeed a 0:0 means a draw, because i suspect it does not mean a draw and it means that no program managed to play so it will not get any points.
In that case i agree that it is not good to play the tournament and the organizer should give more time to the authors to solve the problems.

it means both sides forfeited by not showing up to play on time. No other result would make any sense...

[Uri Blass]

Is this a serious tournament?
How games can be finished with 0:0 result?


5 Naum, (5) 0:0 Symbolic, (20)
18 ZCT, (28) 0:0 Weid, (27)

If programs are not ready to play they should not play in the tournament and not get 0:0 result.

What does 0:0 result means? Does it mean a draw?

So why do you think it is strange that 5 and 18 games could not be draws? If indeed a 0:0 means a draw, because i suspect it does not mean a draw and it means that no program managed to play so it will not get any points.
In that case i agree that it is not good to play the tournament and the organizer should give more time to the authors to solve the problems.

it means both sides forfeited by not showing up to play on time. No other result would make any sense...

I think that players who cannot be at least 99.9% sure of playing all rounds should not register in the first place and programs that do not showing up to play in the first round should not play in the tournament.

I dislike what I see because at least 3 of the favourites lost games for reasons that are not about chess.

one professional(Naum) lost round 1 because of not being able to play on time.
Now I see that fruit and Junior also lost games because of a similiar problems that based on my understanding are not software problems(I understood that Junior lost because of 2 disconnects and fruit lost because the machine crashed),

Uri

[swami]

Twisted Logic has had a bug in 2 games...I need to replace with slightly bug fixed one...Against Joker in a dead drawn position, at some point it plays at depth 1 and makes a weak move...and plays best rest of the moves...

against micromax..it crashes just before mate in 2...and when reconnected plays at depth 1 and draws the game even though it is mate in 2 with 2 queens.

[Uri Blass]

Is this a serious tournament?
How games can be finished with 0:0 result?


5 Naum, (5) 0:0 Symbolic, (20)
18 ZCT, (28) 0:0 Weid, (27)

If programs are not ready to play they should not play in the tournament and not get 0:0 result.

What does 0:0 result means? Does it mean a draw?

So why do you think it is strange that 5 and 18 games could not be draws? If indeed a 0:0 means a draw, because i suspect it does not mean a draw and it means that no program managed to play so it will not get any points.
In that case i agree that it is not good to play the tournament and the organizer should give more time to the authors to solve the problems.

it means both sides forfeited by not showing up to play on time. No other result would make any sense...

I think that players who cannot be at least 99.9% sure of playing all rounds should not register in the first place and programs that do not showing up to play in the first round should not play in the tournament.

I dislike what I see because at least 3 of the favourites lost games for reasons that are not about chess.

one professional(Naum) lost round 1 because of not being able to play on time.
Now I see that fruit and Junior also lost games because of a similiar problems that based on my understanding are not software problems(I understood that Junior lost because of 2 disconnects and fruit lost because the machine crashed),

Uri

Now I read that Glaurung beat Ikarus in the same way that it beat Junior.
The opponent disconnected twice.

If Glaurung can win the event thanks to these disconnections then it is clearly unfair(Junior had a winning position against Glaurung and Ikarus also had slightly better position).

It could be better not to allow
Junior and Ikarus to compete in the first place if they had no stable connection.

Uri