How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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It's just a poor clone of a wannabe programmer, Ben Lau. Unfortunately I am not allowed to tell you what other names Ben Lau is useing, to post his nonsence at talkchess. Watch and draw your own conclusions...

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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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ozziejoe wrote:1 d5!?

This is one of those positional sacs that is fairly rare for engines to play. Rybka sees it as a top 3 option , being only -.08 off the best option

However, other engines don't consider it too viable: The following Engines do not see it as a top 6 moves after 2 minutes of processing (on a good core duo)


Ruffian
Fruit 05/11/03
Shredder 10
Fritz9
spike 1.2 turin

Does hiarcs see it? Zappa? Any other engine place it as a reasonable option (within -.10 of what it considers best, and/0r in top 3 moves)

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J

Shredder 11 doesnt need a x-best mode, simple best move is enough!

[d]r1bq1rk1/p3nppp/1p2p3/8/3P4/1QN2N2/PP2RPPP/R5K1 w - -

Engine: Deep Shredder 11 x64 (2048 MB)
by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

11/27 0:00 -0.33 1.Rd1 Bb7 2.Ne5 Nd5 3.Nxd5 Bxd5
4.Qa3 Qg5 5.Nf3 Bxf3 6.Qxf3 Rac8
7.Qe3 Qa5 8.b3 Qf5 (2.879.179) 3545

11/27 0:01 -0.21 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 Qxd5 3.Qxd5 exd5
4.Re5 Be6 5.Nd4 Rac8 6.Rae1 Rfe8
7.Kf1 (6.922.443) 3517

12/22 0:02 -0.02 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Qd3 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.Nd4 Rfd8 7.a4 Rc4 (7.595.021) 3522

13/23 0:02 -0.02 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Qd3 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.Nd4 Rfd8 7.a4 Rc4
8.b3 Rc1 9.Rxc1 Qxe5 (8.919.893) 3546

14/25 0:03 -0.12 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Qd3 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.Nd4 Rfe8 7.b4 (10.869.541) 3568

15/30 0:05 -0.17 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Qd3 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.h3 Rc5 7.Ng5 g6
8.Nxe6 fxe6 9.Qe2 Re8 (18.984.633) 3638

16/34 0:08 -0.12 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Qd3 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.h3 Rc5 7.b3 Qf4
8.Ng5 g6 (33.255.063) 3721

17/33 0:13 -0.17 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Qd3 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.h3 Rc5 7.Ng5 g6
8.Nxe6 fxe6 9.Qe2 Re8 10.Rxe6 Qxe6
11.Qxe6+ (51.726.965) 3703

18/34 0:21 -0.16 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Qd3 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.h3 Rc5 7.Nd4 Bd7
8.Nb3 Rb5 9.Rxd5 (82.028.623) 3755

19/40 0:38 -0.09 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Be6
4.Nd4 Qf6 5.Re5 Rac8 6.Qe3 h6 7.f4 Rfe8
8.Qf3 Rc4 9.Nxe6 fxe6 10.f5 Rc2
11.Rxe6 Qd4+ 12.Kh1 Rec8 13.Re7 a5 (145.402.998) 3787

20/44 1:11 -0.05 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Qd6
4.Re5 Be6 5.Ng5 Rae8 6.Qd3 g6 7.Qd4 Qd7
8.h3 Bf5 9.Rxe8 Rxe8 10.Rxe8+ Qxe8
11.Qxd5 h6 12.Nf3 Be4 13.Qe5 Qxe5
14.Nxe5 (275.982.708) 3880 SB:4

21/44 1:33 -0.06 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Qd6
4.Re5 Be6 5.Ng5 Rae8 6.Qd3 g6 7.Qd4 Qd7
8.h3 Bf5 9.Rxe8 Rxe8 10.Rxe8+ Qxe8
11.Qxd5 h6 12.Nf3 Be4 13.Qe5 Qxe5
14.Nxe5 (367.480.242) 3918 SB:4

22/50 3:23 -0.18 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Qd6
4.Re5 Be6 5.Nd4 Rac8 6.h3 Rc4 7.Nxe6 fxe6
8.Rxe6 Qc5 9.Qg3 Rc2 10.R1e2 Rxe2
11.Rxe2 d4 12.a4 Kh8 13.Kh2 Rd8 (806.279.854) 3959 SB:21

23/53 8:03 -0.19 1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Rae1 Qd6
4.Re5 Be6 5.Nd4 Rac8 6.h3 Rc4 7.Nxe6 fxe6
8.Rxe6 Qc5 9.Qg3 Rc2 10.R1e2 Rxe2
11.Rxe2 d4 12.a3 a5 13.Qb3+ Kh8
14.Qd3 (1.945.212.823) 4021 SB:32

best move: d4-d5 time: 8:23.266 min n/s: 4.025.266 CPU 397.5% n/s(1CPU): 1.012.645 nodes: 2.025.651.042 SB: 32


That analysis was on a fast Quad. I suppose that it will skip this move if I would give it more time.

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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:It's just a poor clone of a wannabe programmer, Ben Lau. Unfortunately I am not allowed to tell you what other names Ben Lau is useing, to post his nonsence at talkchess. Watch and draw your own conclusions...

Alex
Dont we all know??
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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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Isn't anybody testing bright :)

Analysis by bright-0.2c:

1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 Qxd5 3.Qxd5 exd5 4.Nd4 Be6 5.Rae1 Rac8 6.Nxe6 fxe6 7.Rxe6 Rc2 8.R6e2 Rfc8 9.Re7 Rxb2 10.Rxa7
= (-0.14) Depth: 12/32 00:00:07 5630kN
1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 Qxd5 3.Qxd5 exd5 4.Nd4 Be6 5.Rae1 Bd7 6.Re7 Rfe8 7.Kf1 Rad8 8.f4 Rxe7 9.Rxe7
= (-0.12) Depth: 13/40 00:00:16 13102kN
1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 Qxd5 3.Qxd5 exd5 4.Nd4 Be6 5.Rae1 Bd7 6.Re7 Rfe8 7.Kf1 Rad8 8.Rxe8+ Rxe8 9.Rxe8+ Bxe8 10.Ke2 Bd7 11.Ke3
= (-0.13) Depth: 14/40 00:00:28 22699kN
1.d5 Nxd5 2.Nxd5 Qxd5 3.Qxd5 exd5 4.Nd4 Be6 5.Rae1 Rfe8 6.f3 Bd7 7.Kf2 Rxe2+ 8.Rxe2 Rc8 9.Re7 Rc7 10.Ke3 h5
= (-0.14) Depth: 15/40 00:01:15 58250kN

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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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Fritz 10 evaluates d5 in the top 3 moves after about 10 seconds (using a 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor). Then d5 disappears from the top 3 and reappears after about a minute. After 4 minutes, d5 is at the top of the list.
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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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ozziejoe wrote:1 d5!?

[d]r1bq1rk1/p3nppp/1p2p3/8/3P4/1QN2N2/PP2RPPP/R5K1 w - - 0 0[d]

This position is considered in Silman's book, reassess your chess. The white d pawn is terrible and the black bishop is about to get real active. So white sacs the pawn, and in exchange gets a shletered spot for his knight on d4, and takes away some of bishops scope.

This is one of those positional sacs that is fairly rare for engines to play. Rybka sees it as a top 3 option , being only -.08 off the best option

However, other engines don't consider it too viable: The following Engines do not see it as a top 6 moves after 2 minutes of processing (on a good core duo)


Ruffian
Fruit 05/11/03
Shredder 10
Fritz9
spike 1.2 turin

Does hiarcs see it? Zappa? Any other engine place it as a reasonable option (within -.10 of what it considers best, and/0r in top 3 moves)

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J
That reminded me of the Karpov - Korchnoi game:

[d]2r1r1k1/5pp1/4nn1p/pp1p4/5PP1/2PRB2P/PPN5/1K1R4 b - g3 0 26

Where korchnoi played d4 and drew the endgame.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1068085

Do engines find that move?

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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

Post by PauloSoare »

Impressive! All commercial engines that I have(10 engines) choose
d4 in less than 3 min on my quad 6600. The majority plays d4 instantly.
Perhaps the better question was: What the programs that do
not play d4.

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Chess theory vs. search function !

Post by Sylwy »

ozziejoe wrote:1 d5!?

[d]r1bq1rk1/p3nppp/1p2p3/8/3P4/1QN2N2/PP2RPPP/R5K1 w - - 0 0[d]

This position is considered in Silman's book, reassess your chess. The white d pawn is terrible and the black bishop is about to get real active. So white sacs the pawn, and in exchange gets a shletered spot for his knight on d4, and takes away some of bishops scope.

This is one of those positional sacs that is fairly rare for engines to play. Rybka sees it as a top 3 option , being only -.08 off the best option

However, other engines don't consider it too viable: The following Engines do not see it as a top 6 moves after 2 minutes of processing (on a good core duo)


Ruffian
Fruit 05/11/03
Shredder 10
Fritz9
spike 1.2 turin

Does hiarcs see it? Zappa? Any other engine place it as a reasonable option (within -.10 of what it considers best, and/0r in top 3 moves)

best
J

Hi !

This is not a great sacrifice ! In any decent chess course in strategy you can find the theme:
" Isolated pawn in center "
Here are only two options:
1. attack on the king position ( they are four conditions to do it );
2. open the center by d5 (d4) move ( if three conditions are carried out).

Only the lack of chess knowledges ( weak evaluation function of most of chess engines) generated such delay.The search function is like a blind man -feels every branch of the chess tree in every positions.The pruning function helps sometimes. Indeed they are long ways to a true strong chess engine.

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Re: Chess theory vs. search function !

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Sylwy wrote:Indeed they are long ways to a true strong chess engine.
LOL
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Re: How many engines consider this positional sacrifice

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Thus far, given:
r1bq1rk1/p3nppp/1p2p3/8/3P4/1QN2N2/PP2RPPP/R5K1 w - - bm d5; c0 "Silman";
2r1r1k1/5pp1/4nn1p/pp1p4/5PP1/2PRB2P/PPN5/1K1R4 b - g3 bm d4; c0 "Korchnoi";

Two engines have solved both positions (though about 2/3 find the second):

Code: Select all

Analysis from E:\sk.epd   
3/18/2008 4:25:04 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: ChessTiger2007UCI

1) d5; c0 "Silman";     
    Searching move: d4-d5
    Best move (ChessTiger2007UCI): d4-d5
    identical moves! Found in: 00:03
      2	00:03	         203	0	-0.54	Ra1c1 Bc8b7 Nc3e4
      2	00:03	         476	47.600	-0.48	Qb3c2 Bc8b7 Nf3g5
      3	00:03	       1.648	164.800	-0.10	Qb3c2 Bc8b7 Nf3g5
      4	00:03	       3.419	341.900	-0.56	Qb3c2 Bc8b7 Nc3e4 Ne7f5 Qc2d3
      4	00:03	       4.493	449.300	-0.44	Ra1c1 Bc8b7 Nc3e4 Ne7f5 Qb3d3
      4	00:03	       5.012	501.200	-0.28	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5
      5	00:03	       8.692	869.200	-0.18	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1
      6	00:03	      11.387	379.567	-0.32	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3e5
      7	00:03	      16.653	555.100	-0.32	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3e5
      8	00:03	      36.417	606.950	-0.54	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3d4 Qd8f6 Nd4c6
      9	00:03	      84.512	704.267	-0.54	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3d4 Qd8f6 Nd4c6
     10	00:03	     157.349	715.223	-0.58	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3d4 Qd8f6 Nd4c6 Rf8c8 Qb3c2
     11	00:03	     488.734	828.363	-0.58	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3d4 Qd8f6 Re2e5 Ra8c8 Qb3e3
     12	00:03	     701.123	815.259	-0.52	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3d4 Qd8h4 Nd4c6 Qh4f6 Qb3c3 Qf6xc3 Nc6e7+ Kg8h8 b2xc3
     13	00:04	     924.333	705.598	-0.48	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3d4 Qd8f6 Re2e5 Ra8c8 Qb3f3 Qf6xf3 Nd4xf3
     14	00:04	   1.391.072	736.017	-0.52	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Qb3d3 Bc8e6 Re2e5 h7h6 Ra1c1 Ra8c8 Rc1xc8 Qd8xc8 Re5e1 Qc8c4 Qd3xc4 d5xc4
     15	00:06	   2.120.306	713.908	-0.56	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Qb3d3 Bc8e6 Re2e5 h7h6 Ra1c1 Ra8c8 Rc1xc8 Qd8xc8 Re5e1 Qc8c4 Qd3xc4 d5xc4 Nf3e5
     16	00:08	   3.856.296	754.657	-0.46	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Qb3d3 Bc8e6 Re2e5 Qd8f6 Nf3g5 g7g6 Ra1e1 h7h6 Ng5f3 Ra8c8 Qd3d2 Qf6g7 Qd2e3
     17	00:09	   5.388.265	782.041	-0.38	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Qb3d3 Bc8e6 Re2e5 Qd8f6 Ra1e1 g7g6 Qd3d4 Ra8c8 Re5xd5 Qf6xd4 Rd5xd4 Rc8c2 Rd4a4 Rc2xb2 Ra4xa7 Rb2xa2 Ra7xa2 Be6xa2
     18	00:12	   7.924.353	809.433	-0.40	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Qb3d3 Bc8e6 Re2e5 Qd8f6 Ra1e1 Rf8c8 h2h3 h7h6 Nf3d4 Rc8d8 Nd4c6 Rd8d6 Qd3c3
     19	00:18	  12.984.044	823.861	-0.40	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Qb3d3 Bc8e6 Re2e5 Qd8f6 Ra1e1 Rf8c8 h2h3 h7h6 Nf3d4 Rc8d8 Qd3a3 Rd8e8 Nd4c6 a7a6 Qa3e3
     20	00:40	  32.557.874	864.751	-0.32	d4d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1e1 Bc8e6 Nf3d4 Qd8f6 Qb3e3 Rf8e8 Qe3e5 Qf6xe5 Re2xe5 Be6d7 Kg1f1 Re8xe5 Re1xe5 Ra8c8 Re5xd5 Rc8c1+ Kf1e2 Rc1c7
   3/18/2008 4:30:31 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:01:00, Rated time: 00:03

2) d4; c0 "Korchnoi";   
    Searching move: d5-d4
    Best move (ChessTiger2007UCI): d5-d4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:02
      2	00:02	          90	0	-0.48	Ne6c5 Be3xc5 Rc8xc5
      3	00:02	         169	0	-0.58	Ne6c5 Be3xc5 Rc8xc5
      4	00:02	         628	0	-0.82	Ne6c5 Be3xc5 Rc8xc5 Nc2e3 Re8d8
      4	00:02	       1.735	0	-0.66	d5d4 Nc2xd4 Ne6c5 Nd4xb5 Nc5xd3 Rd1xd3
      4	00:02	       3.931	393.100	-0.56	Rc8c4 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Rc4xf4
      5	00:02	       5.647	564.700	-0.60	Rc8c4 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Rc4xf4
      5	00:02	       7.011	701.100	-0.44	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4
      6	00:02	       8.736	873.600	-0.48	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4
      7	00:02	      11.946	1.194.600	-0.52	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6g5 Be3xg5 h6xg5
      8	00:02	      22.621	754.033	-0.26	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3c3 Rc8xc3 b2xc3 Nf4xh3
      9	00:02	      42.956	715.933	-0.38	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 Rd1f1 Rc8c4 Nc2a3 Nd5xe3 Rd3xe3 Rc4xd4 Na3xb5 Rd4d2
     10	00:03	      93.517	935.170	-0.38	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Re8e4 Nc2e3 Rc8e8
     11	00:03	     127.048	747.341	-0.36	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3c3 Rc8xc3 b2xc3 Nf4xh3
     12	00:03	     290.670	830.486	-0.32	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 Rd1f1 f7f6 Be3d2 b5b4 f4f5 Ne6g5 Bd2xg5 h6xg5 Rf1e1 Re8xe1+ Nc2xe1
     13	00:03	     501.504	850.007	-0.38	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Nf4d5 Rd1d2 Re8e4 Rf3b3 b5b4
     14	00:03	     687.705	849.019	-0.34	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Nf4d5 Rd1d2 Re8e4 Rf3a3 a5a4 b2b3 Rc8c3 b3xa4 Rc3xa3 Nc2xa3 b5xa4
     15	00:04	   1.094.171	875.337	-0.36	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Nf4d5 Rd1d2 Re8e4 Rf3a3 a5a4 b2b3 Rc8c3 b3xa4 Rc3xa3 Nc2xa3 b5xa4
     16	00:05	   2.686.359	895.453	-0.34	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Nf4d5 Rd1c1 b5b4 Rc1e1 Re8xe1+ Nc2xe1 Rc8e8 Ne1d3 Re8e2
     17	00:08	   4.907.636	900.484	-0.36	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 Rd1f1 b5b4 Be3d2 Re8e7 f4f5 Ne6g5 Bd2xg5 h6xg5 Rf1e1 Re7xe1+ Nc2xe1 Rc8e8 Ne1f3 Nd5f4
     18	00:13	   9.550.510	878.612	-0.38	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 Rd1f1 Ne6f8 Rf1e1 Nf8g6 f4f5 Rc8xc2 Kb1xc2 Nd5b4+ Kc2d2 Nb4xd3 Kd2xd3 Ng6f4+ Kd3d2 Nf4xh3 d4d5 Nh3g5 Be3xg5 Re8xe1 Kd2xe1 h6xg5
     19	00:15	  14.087.040	890.458	-0.36	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Re8e2 Nc2a3 b5b4 Na3b5 Rc8c2 Rf3xf4 Rc2xb2+ Kb1a1 Rb2xa2+ Ka1b1 Ra2b2+ Kb1a1 Rb2a2+ Ka1b1 Ra2b2+ Kb1a1 Rb2a2+
     20	00:18	  20.516.804	906.219	-0.30	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Nf4d5 Rd1d2 Re8e4 Rf3a3 a5a4 Ra3f3 Rc8e8 Kb1c1 Kg8f8 Nc2a3 Re4e1+ Rd2d1 Re8c8+
     21	00:32	  27.111.318	917.783	-0.30	d5d4 c3xd4 Nf6d5 f4f5 Ne6f4 Be3xf4 Nd5xf4 Rd3f3 Nf4d5 Rd1e1 Re8xe1+ Nc2xe1 Rc8e8 Ne1c2 Re8e2 a2a3 a5a4 b2b3 Kg8f8 b3xa4 b5xa4 Nc2b4 Nd5e3
   3/18/2008 4:31:37 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:01:04, Rated time: 00:05

2 of 2 matching moves
3/18/2008 4:31:38 PM, Total time: 12:06:33 AM
Rated time: 00:05 = 5 Seconds

Analysis from E:\sk.epd   
3/18/2008 4:25:04 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Gaviota-033

1) d5; c0 "Silman";     
    Searching move: d4-d5
    Best move (Gaviota-033): d4-d5
    identical moves! Found in: 00:17
      2	00:00	       1,000	-1	-0.10	:-(
      2	00:00	       1,000	-1	-0.33	Qb3-a4 Bc8-b7
      3	00:00	       1,000	-1	-0.19	Nc3-b5 Bc8-b7 Ra1-c1
      4	00:00	       1,000	-.100	-0.49	Nc3-b5 Bc8-b7 Ra1-c1 Ne7-f5
      4	00:00	       1,000	-33	-0.49	Nc3-b5 Bc8-b7 Ra1-c1 Ne7-f5
      5	00:00	       1,000	-25	-0.34	Nc3-b5 Bc8-b7 Ra1-c1 Ne7-f5 Rc1-c7
      5	00:00	       1,000	-14	-0.34	Nc3-b5 Bc8-b7 Ra1-c1 Ne7-f5 Rc1-c7
      6	00:00	       1,000	-7	-0.70	Nc3-b5 a7-a6 Nb5-c3 Bc8-b7 Re2-e3 Bb7xf3 Re3xf3 Qd8xd4
      6	00:00	       1,000	-5	-0.43	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Re2-d2 Bc8-e6
      6	00:00	       1,000	-3	-0.43	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 e6xd5 Re2-d2 Bc8-e6
      7	00:00	       1,000	-2	-0.62	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Re2-e5 Bc8-g4
      7	00:00	       1,000	-1	-0.59	Nc3-b5 a7-a6 Nb5-a3 Bc8-b7 Ra1-d1 Ne7-f5 Na3-c4
      7	00:01	       1,000	-1	-0.55	Qb3-c2 Bc8-b7 Qc2-d3 Ne7-f5 d4-d5 Bb7-c6 Ra1-c1
      7	00:01	       1,000	0	-0.47	Ra1-c1 Bc8-b7 Nc3-b5 Ne7-f5 <-transp
      7	00:01	       1,000	0	-0.41	Re2-c2 Bc8-b7 Nc3-b5 Ne7-f5 <-transp
      7	00:01	       1,000	0	-0.41	Re2-c2 Bc8-b7 Nc3-b5 Ne7-f5 <-transp
      8	00:01	       1,000	0	-0.69	Re2-c2 Bc8-b7 Nc3-b5 Bb7-e4 Rc2-e2 Qd8-d5 Qb3xd5 Be4xd5
      8	00:03	       1,000	0	-0.62	Nf3-e5 Bc8-b7 Qb3-c4 a7-a5 Ra1-d1 Ra8-c8 Qc4-b3 Ne7-f5
      8	00:03	       1,000	0	-0.47	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1-d1 Bc8-g4 Re2-e3
      8	00:04	       1,000	0	-0.47	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1-d1 Bc8-g4 Re2-e3
      9	00:04	       1,000	0	-0.59	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1-d1 Bc8-e6 Rd1-d4 a7-a6
      9	00:08	       1,000	0	-0.49	Nf3-e5 Bc8-b7 Re2-e1 a7-a6 Ra1-d1 b6-b5 Rd1-d3 Ne7-f5 d4-d5
      9	00:10	       1,000	0	-0.49	Nf3-e5 Bc8-b7 Re2-e1 a7-a6 Ra1-d1 b6-b5 Rd1-d3 Ne7-f5 d4-d5
     10	00:16	       1,000	0	-0.62	Nf3-e5 Bc8-b7 Re2-e1 Ne7-f5 d4-d5 e6xd5 Qb3-c2 d5-d4 Qc2xf5 d4xc3 b2xc3
     10	00:17	       1,000	0	-0.50	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Re2-d2 Rf8-d8 Ra1-e1 Bc8-f5 Re1-e7
     10	00:22	       1,000	0	-0.50	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Re2-d2 Rf8-d8 Ra1-e1 Bc8-f5 Re1-e7
     11	00:24	       1,000	0	-0.54	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1-d1 Bc8-g4 Re2-e3 Rf8-e8 Rd1xd5 Re8xe3 f2xe3
     11	00:38	       1,000	0	-0.54	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Ra1-d1 Bc8-g4 Re2-e3 Rf8-e8 Rd1xd5 Re8xe3 f2xe3
     12	00:53	       1,000	0	-0.43	d4-d5 Ne7xd5 Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 Qb3xd5 e6xd5 Re2-e5 Rf8-d8 Ra1-d1 Bc8-a6 Rd1xd5 Rd8xd5 Re5xd5 Ba6-c4
   3/18/2008 4:42:58 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:01:00, Rated time: 00:17

2) d4; c0 "Korchnoi";   
    Searching move: d5-d4
    Best move (Gaviota-033): d5-d4
    identical moves! Found in: 00:00
      2	00:00	       1,000	-1	-0.69	Kg8-f8 f4-f5
      3	00:00	       1,000	-1	-0.59	Re8-e7 f4-f5 Ne6-c5
      4	00:00	       1,000	-.100	-0.80	Re8-e7 Nc2-d4 Ne6xd4 Be3xd4
      4	00:00	       1,000	-.100	-0.66	Kg8-f8 Rd1-f1 Rc8-c4 f4-f5
      4	00:00	       1,000	-33	-0.31	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3
      4	00:00	       1,000	-33	-0.31	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3
      5	00:00	       1,000	-25	-0.35	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5
      5	00:00	       1,000	-16	-0.35	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5
      6	00:00	       1,000	-14	-0.53	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 Bd4-f2
      6	00:00	       1,000	-8	-0.53	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 Bd4-f2
      7	00:00	       1,000	-5	-0.57	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 a2-a4 b5-b4 c3xb4 a5xb4
      7	00:00	       1,000	-3	-0.57	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 a2-a4 b5-b4 c3xb4 a5xb4
      8	00:00	       1,000	-2	-0.57	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 a2-a4 b5-b4 c3xb4 a5xb4
      8	00:01	       1,000	-1	-0.57	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 a2-a4 b5-b4 c3xb4 a5xb4
      9	00:01	       1,000	0	-0.63	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 Nc2-a3 Rc8-b8 c3-c4 b5xc4 Na3xc4
      9	00:02	       1,000	0	-0.63	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 Nc2-a3 Rc8-b8 c3-c4 b5xc4 Na3xc4
     10	00:02	       1,000	0	-0.67	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 a2-a4 b5-b4 c3xb4 Re8-e2 Bd4-c5 a5xb4
     10	00:08	       1,000	0	-0.67	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 a2-a4 b5-b4 c3xb4 Re8-e2 Bd4-c5 a5xb4
     11	00:10	       1,000	0	-0.66	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 Nc2-a3 Rc8-b8 Na3xb5 Rb8xb5 c3-c4 Rb5-b4 c4xd5 Nf6xd5
     11	00:15	       1,000	0	-0.66	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 Nc2-a3 Rc8-b8 Na3xb5 Rb8xb5 c3-c4 Rb5-b4 c4xd5 Nf6xd5
     12	00:24	       1,000	0	-0.87	d5-d4 Be3xd4 Ne6xf4 Rd3-f3 Nf4-d5 Rf3-f5 Rc8-d8 a2-a4 Nf6-e4 a4xb5 Ne4xc3 b2xc3 Nd5xc3 Kb1-c1 Nc3xd1 Kc1xd1
   3/18/2008 4:44:00 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:01:00, Rated time: 00:17

2 of 2 matching moves
3/18/2008 4:44:01 PM, Total time: 12:18:57 AM
Rated time: 00:17 = 17 Seconds
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