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Terry McCracken
Posts: 16465Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:16 amLocation: Canada
Post by Terry McCracken Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:31 am
Dirt wrote: Terry McCracken wrote: playjunior wrote: ...From Kasparov-Andersson (guess who won
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[d]4r3/pk3p1p/6p1/2R3P1/5P2/4P3/PP6/1K6 w - - 0 38
Here Kasparov plays 38.Re5!!, and after exchange the pawn ending is won for white. If black does not exchange-white checks on 7-th rank and wins effortlessly as well.
Note guys that Kasparov had planned all this well before, but if I rewind 4-5 moves back I think it would be too unfair to the engines
Would you mind posting the entire game? Very nice ending by Kasparov.
Terry
It appears to be this one:
[Event "It (cat.15), Reykjavik (Iceland)"]
[Site "It (cat.15), Reykjavik (Iceland)"]
[Date "1988.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Garry Kasparov"]
[Black "Ulf Andersson"]
[ECO "D36"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "87"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 c6 6.Qc2 Be7 7.e3
Nbd7 8.Bd3 Nh5 9.Bxe7 Qxe7 10.Nge2 g6 11.O-O-O Nb6 12.Ng3 Ng7
13.Kb1 Bd7 14.Rc1 O-O-O 15.Na4 Nxa4 16.Qxa4 Kb8 17.Rc3 b6
18.Ba6 Ne6 19.Rhc1 Rhe8 20.Qb3 Qd6 21.Nf1 Ka8 22.Nd2 Nc7
23.Bf1 Ne6 24.g3 Rc8 25.Bg2 Rc7 26.h4 Rd8 27.Nf3 Bc8 28.Qa4 c5
29.Ng5 Nxg5 30.hxg5 Bb7 31.dxc5 bxc5 32.Qf4 Qxf4 33.gxf4 d4
34.Rxc5 Rxc5 35.Bxb7+ Kxb7 36.Rxc5 dxe3 37.fxe3 Re8 38.Re5
Rxe5 39.fxe5 Kc6 40.Kc2 Kd5 41.b4 Kxe5 42.a4 f6 43.gxf6 Kxf6
44.b5 1-0
Thanks Greg!
I checked with 3 online databases, ChessGames, Chesslab and ChessBase. Everything is in order. Forgive me but I cleared the check from 43. gxf6
Sometimes with just a position with names only it's hard to verify, that's why I asked. Also, the online databases don't always have the game and someone submits a position from a database they own.
Terry
Marc MP
Post by Marc MP Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:19 am
Frenzee FEB08 is even more impressive (still on PIV 2,4Ghz): 22 +1.83 1609.3M 32:59.31 1.Re5
Dann Corbit
Posts: 12816Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:57 pmLocation: Redmond, WA USA
Post by Dann Corbit Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:54 pm
Given 45 minutes on a 2.2 GHz machine, I had two solvers:
Code: Select all
Analysis from E:\ka.epd
3/24/2008 10:16:24 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Hiarcs11.2SPUCI
1) Re5; ID "Kasparov-An
Searching move: Rc5-e5
Best move (Hiarcs11.2SPUCI): Rc5-e5
identical moves! Found in: 17:30
12/25 00:00 373.502 681.572 +1.42 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 Rh6h4 Rc3c1 Kb7b6 Kd3e4 Rh4h5 b2b4
13/27 00:01 764.133 634.661 +1.45 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 Rh6h4 a2a3 f7f6 Rc3c5
14/29 00:02 1.440.235 622.669 +1.39 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 a7a5 Rc3c2 Rh6h4 b2b3 f7f6 Kd3e4 f6f5+ Ke4d3 Rh4h1
15/31 00:05 2.910.284 606.561 +1.39 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 Kb7b6 e3e4 Rh6h4 Kd3e3 Rh4h2 Rc3c8
16/32 00:11 6.386.756 588.912 +1.39 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 f7f6 Rc3c5 Rh6h2 Rc5c2 Rh2h5 Kd3d4 g6g5 f4xg5 Rh5xg5 e3e4 Kb7b6
17/34 00:20 11.842.897 585.267 +1.39 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 f7f6 Rc3c5 a7a6 b2b4 Rh6h1 Kd3d4 Rh1b1 Rc5c4 Rb1d1+ Kd4c5 Rd1d2 a2a4
18/38 00:43 24.732.765 573.712 +1.43 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 f7f5 Rc3c2
19/42 01:15 43.055.832 575.028 +1.42 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 f7f5 Rc3c2 Rh6h8 e3e4 Rh8d8+ Kd3e3 f5xe4 Ke3xe4 Kb7b6 Rc2g2 Rd8d6
20/42 02:25 83.834.029 578.848 +1.39 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 f7f5 Rc3c2 Rh6h8 e3e4 Rh8h3+ Kd3d4 Rh3h4 Kd4e5 f5xe4 Rc2e2 Kb7c6 Ke5xe4
21/42 05:08 179.872.215 584.562 +1.39 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h5 g5xh6/ep Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 f7f5 Rc3c2 Rh6h8 e3e4 Rh8h3+ Kd3d4 Rh3h4 Kd4e3 Rh4h3+ Ke3d4
22/43 17:05 605.622.484 590.877 +1.32 Rc5c3 Re8h8 Kb1c2 h7h6 g5xh6 Rh8xh6 Kc2d3 f7f5 Rc3c2 Rh6h8 Rc2e2 Rh8d8+ Kd3c3 Rd8e8 e3e4 f5xe4 Kc3d4 Kb7c7 Re2xe4 Re8b8 Kd4c3 Kc7d7 b2b4 Rb8c8+ Kc3d4
22/43 17:30 621.578.051 591.767 +1.33 Rc5e5
22/43 18:01 640.794.615 592.641 +1.54 Rc5e5 Re8xe5 f4xe5 Kb7c6 e5e6 f7xe6 Kb1c2 Kc6d5 Kc2d3 Kd5e5 b2b4 Ke5d5 e3e4+ Kd5d6 Kd3e3 e6e5 Ke3d3 Kd6d7 Kd3c4 Kd7e6 Kc4c5 Ke6e7
23/46+ 26:04 922.390.025 589.621 +1.79 Rc5e5
23/46 26:11 927.659.442 590.254 +1.79 Rc5e5 Re8xe5 f4xe5 Kb7c6 e5e6 f7xe6 Kb1c2 Kc6d5 Kc2d3 Kd5e5 b2b4 Ke5d5 e3e4+ Kd5d6 Kd3e3 e6e5 Ke3d3
3/25/2008 5:48:26 AM, Time for this analysis: 00:45:00, Rated time: 17:30
1 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 5:48:27 AM, Total time: 7:32:03 AM
Rated time: 17:30 = 1050 Seconds
And:
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
3/24/2008 10:16:24 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: DeepSjeng 1.6
1) Re5; ID "Kasparov-An
Searching move: Rc5-e5
Best move (DeepSjeng 1.6): Rc5-e5
identical moves! Found in: 41:17
3/7 00:00 521 0 +1.95 Rc5c3 Kb7b6 Kb1c2
4/9 00:00 1.166 0 +1.81 Rc5c3 Kb7b6 Kb1c2 Re8d8
5/10 00:00 3.444 0 +2.13 Rc5c3 Kb7b6 Kb1c2 a7a5 Kc2d3
6/12 00:00 7.884 0 +2.02 Rc5c3 Kb7b6 Kb1c2 Re8e6 Rc3b3+ Kb6c5 Rb3b7
7/15 00:00 18.267 0 +1.96 Rc5c3 Kb7b6 Kb1c2 a7a5 Kc2d3 Re8d8+ Kd3e4 Rd8d2
8/16 00:00 42.780 0 +1.81 Rc5c3 Kb7b6 Kb1c2 Re8e6 Rc3b3+ Kb6c6 Kc2d3 Re6d6+ Kd3e4 Rd6d2
9/19 00:00 143.399 0 +1.49 Rc5c3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 Rc3b3+ Kb7a6 Rb3a3+ Ka6b6 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Ra3b3+ Kb6c5
9/20 00:00 237.358 0 +1.56 Rc5b5+ Kb7c7 Rb5b3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 Rb3a3 Kc7b6 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Ra3b3+ Kb6c5
10/22 00:01 448.629 0 +1.49 Rc5b5+ Kb7c7 Rb5b3 f7f6 Rb3a3 Kc7b6 g5xf6 Re8f8 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Ra3b3+ Kb6c5
11/25 00:01 986.824 0 +1.49 Rc5b5+ Kb7c6 Rb5b3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 Rb3c3+ Kc6b6 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Rc3f3 h7h5 Kb1c2
12/25 00:03 2.037.877 0 +1.43 Rc5b5+ Kb7c6 Rb5a5 Kc6b6 Ra5d5 Kb6c6 Rd5d3 f7f6 Kb1c2 f6xg5 f4xg5 Re8f8 e3e4 Rf8f2+ Kc2c3
13/26 00:05 4.116.639 841.776 +1.40 Rc5b5+ Kb7c6 Rb5a5 Kc6b6 Ra5d5 Kb6c6 Rd5d3 f7f6 Rd3c3+ Kc6b6 Kb1c2 f6xg5 f4xg5 Re8e5 e3e4 Re5xe4
13/27 00:05 4.730.254 855.494 +1.43 Rc5c3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Rc3f3 Kb7c6 e4e5 Rf6e6 Kb1c2 Kc6d5 Rf3c3
14/28 00:09 7.613.499 879.781 +1.51 Rc5c3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Rc3f3 Kb7c6 e4e5 Rf6e6 Rf3a3 Kc6b6 Ra3b3+ Kb6c5 Kb1c2
15/31 00:15 13.617.194 895.182 +1.49 Rc5c3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Rc3f3 Rf6e6 e4e5 h7h6 Kb1c2 g6g5 f4xg5 h6xg5 Rf3f7+ Kb7b8 Rf7f5
16/33 00:29 25.561.334 888.679 +1.38 Rc5c3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Rc3f3 Rf6e6 f4f5 g6xf5 e4xf5 Re6f6 Kb1c2 Kb7c6 Rf3c3+ Kc6d5 Rc3c7 h7h5 Rc7xa7 Rf6xf5
17/34 00:58 52.948.044 915.469 +1.38 Rc5c3 f7f6 g5xf6 Re8f8 e3e4 Rf8xf6 Rc3f3 Rf6e6 Rf3e3 Re6f6 Re3h3 Kb7b6 Rh3h4 Kb6c5 Kb1c2 Kc5d4 Kc2d2
18/40 03:29 190.457.744 919.405 +1.37 Rc5c3 Re8e6 Kb1c2 f7f6 g5xf6 Re6xf6 Rc3c4 Rf6c6 Rc4xc6 Kb7xc6 Kc2d3 h7h6 e3e4 Kc6d6 Kd3d4 Kd6e6 Kd4e3 g6g5 f4f5+ Ke6e5 b2b4 h6h5 a2a4
19/41 08:07 447.304.445 924.820 +1.56 Rc5c3 Re8e6 Kb1c2 f7f6 g5xf6 Re6xf6 Kc2d3 h7h5 Rc3c2 Rf6a6 b2b3 Ra6c6 Rc2h2 Rc6f6 Rh2h4 Rf6a6 f4f5 g6xf5 Rh4xh5 Kb7c6
20/46 12:23 683.656.589 921.469 +1.41 Rc5c3 Re8e6 Kb1c2 f7f6 g5xf6 Re6xf6 Kc2d3 h7h5 Rc3c2 Rf6a6 b2b3 Ra6c6 Rc2xc6 Kb7xc6 Kd3e4 h5h4 Ke4f3 h4h3 Kf3g3 Kc6d5 Kg3xh3 Kd5e4 Kh3g4 Ke4xe3 a2a3
21/46 20:53 1.154.961.116 923.805 +1.39 Rc5c3 Re8e6 Kb1c2 f7f6 g5xf6 Re6xf6 Kc2d3 h7h5 Rc3b3+ Kb7c7 Kd3e4 Rf6a6 a2a3 Ra6c6 Ke4e5 Rc6c5+ Ke5f6 Rc5c6+ Kf6g5 Rc6e6 Rb3d3 a7a6 b2b3 Re6d6 Rd3c3+ Kc7b6
21/48+ 41:17 2.325.026,506 927.287 +1.81 Rc5e5
3/25/2008 7:18:55 AM, Time for this analysis: 00:45:00, Rated time: 41:17
1 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 7:18:56 AM, Total time: 9:02:32 AM
Rated time: 41:17 = 2477 Seconds
Here are the participants:
Code: Select all
Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: WildCat_8
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/24/2008 11:01:30 PM, Total time: 12:45:05 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Smarthink UCI
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/24/2008 11:46:42 PM, Total time: 1:30:17 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Rybka_WinFinder_v2.2.w32
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 12:31:52 AM, Total time: 2:15:27 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: ChessTiger2007UCI
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 1:17:05 AM, Total time: 3:00:41 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Bright-0.3a
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 2:02:19 AM, Total time: 3:45:55 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Rybkav2.3.2a.w32
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 2:47:30 AM, Total time: 4:31:05 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Strelka_2_1
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 3:32:41 AM, Total time: 5:16:16 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: EngineShredder9UCI
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 4:17:53 AM, Total time: 6:01:29 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Fruit-2-3-1
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 5:03:12 AM, Total time: 6:46:47 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Hiarcs11.2SPUCI
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-e5 * 1050 Seconds
1 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 5:48:27 AM, Total time: 7:32:03 AM Rated time: 17:30 = 1050 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Alaric707
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 6:33:41 AM, Total time: 8:17:17 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: DeepSjeng 1.6
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-e5 * 2477 Seconds
1 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 7:18:56 AM, Total time: 9:02:32 AM Rated time: 41:17 = 2477 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Gandalf60
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 8:04:07 AM, Total time: 9:47:43 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Glaurung_win_32
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 8:49:18 AM, Total time: 10:32:54 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Ktulu_75
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 9:34:29 AM, Total time: 11:18:05 AM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
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Analysis from E:\ka.epd
Analyzing engine: Zappa
1) Rc5-e5 Rc5-c3
0 of 1 matching moves
3/25/2008 10:20:04 AM, Total time: 12:03:39 PM Rated time: 45:00 = 2700 Seconds
ernest
Posts: 2053Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:30 pm
Post by ernest Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:55 pm
Marc MP wrote: Here are the results I get (from Chess Tiger 2007 - normal style) on an (obselete for this forum...) pentium 4 2.4ghz..:
Chess Tiger 2007 or Chess Tiger 2007.1 ?
How much hash ?
With Chess Tiger 2007.1 384 MB hash, I only get Rc3
00:04:30.4 1,45 25 600696662 Rc3 Re6 Kc2 f6 gxf6 Rxf6 Kd3 Rd6+ Ke2 Rc6 Rb3+ Kc7 e4 Ra6 a3 h5 Kf3 Rd6 f5 Rf6 Rb5 gxf5 Rxf5 Rb6 b4 Ra6
00:08:25.5 1,50 26 1119984758 Rc3 Re6 Kc2 f6 gxf6 Rxf6 Kd3 Rd6+ Ke2 Rc6 Rxc6 Kxc6 b4 Kd5 Kf3 Kc4 e4 h5 a3 Kb5 f5 gxf5 exf5 Kc6 b5+ Kd5 Kf4
00:14:12.0 1,50 27 1871505216 Rc3 Re6 Kc2 f6 gxf6 Rxf6 Kd3 h5 Ke2 Rb6 Rc2 Ra6 a3 Rb6 b4 Rb5 e4 a5 bxa5 Rxa5 Rc3
ernest
Posts: 2053Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:30 pm
Post by ernest Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:17 pm
ernest wrote: Marc MP wrote: Here are the results I get (from Chess Tiger 2007 - normal style) on an (obselete for this forum...) pentium 4 2.4ghz..:
Chess Tiger 2007 or Chess Tiger 2007.1 ?
How much hash ?
With Chess Tiger 2007.1 384 MB hash, I only get Rc3
OK..., if you wait long enough
............
00:31:35.3 2,40 27 4273326686
Re5 Rxe5 fxe5 Kc6 e6 fxe6 Kc2 Kd5 Kd3 Ke5 b4 Kd5 a4 Ke5 e4 Kf4 b5 Kxg5 a5
Marc MP
Post by Marc MP Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:25 pm
ernest wrote: ernest wrote: Marc MP wrote: Here are the results I get (from Chess Tiger 2007 - normal style) on an (obselete for this forum...) pentium 4 2.4ghz..:
Chess Tiger 2007 or Chess Tiger 2007.1 ?
How much hash ?
With Chess Tiger 2007.1 384 MB hash, I only get Rc3
OK..., if you wait long enough
............
00:31:35.3 2,40 27 4273326686
Re5 Rxe5 fxe5 Kc6 e6 fxe6 Kc2 Kd5 Kd3 Ke5 b4 Kd5 a4 Ke5 e4 Kf4 b5 Kxg5 a5
Hi Ernest,
I used Chess Tiger 2007, but as I see 2007.1 finds it as well.
ernest
Posts: 2053Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:30 pm
Post by ernest Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:07 pm
Marc MP wrote: I used Chess Tiger 2007
Hi Marc,
How much hash?
)
Sometimes with just a position with names only it's hard to verify, that's why I asked. Also, the online databases don't always have the game and someone submits a position from a database they own.