9 troublemakers from Der brillante Schachzug

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yanquis1972
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Re: 9 troublemakers from Der brillante Schachzug

Post by yanquis1972 »

thanks kg --

i assume the second rybka is rybka 4? i analyzed thru d25 with it & it still wouldn't switch to Bxh6 despite lingering on it every iteration. i couldn't believe that it couldn't solve it by that time so it's good to see i was probably unlucky.

so that's 2 down, 7 to go...anyone else want to step up to the plate? 8-)
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Re: 9 troublemakers from Der brillante Schachzug

Post by kgburcham »

sorry John both are Rybka 3. I should not have posted both. So many times with smp my results differ so sometimes I will try to dupilcate.

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Re: 9 troublemakers from Der brillante Schachzug

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id "Der brillante Schachzug (009)
[d] 1rr1b1k1/1pq1bp2/p2p1np1/4p3/P2BP3/2NB2Q1/1PP3PP/4RR1K w - -

Rybka 3

21.05 14:51 +0.89++ 1.Rxf6 (513.278.008) 589

21.01 14:58 +1.09++ 1.Rxf6 (516.669.781) 588

21.01 16:29 +1.49++ 1.Rxf6 (567.253.149) 587
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zullil
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Re: 9 troublemakers from Der brillante Schachzug

Post by zullil »

Dann Corbit wrote:I am looking for a mechanical score to all of the 'Der brillante Schachzug' positions, and I have solved all but 9. Some have the right best move choice, but they have a terrible ce, so the plan cannot be right.
At the end of each position, I have added my calculated pv and ce.

[d]1rbr2k1/4q1p1/p2bp2p/8/R6P/3QB1P1/4PPB1/2R3K1 w - - bm Bxh6; id "Der brillante Schachzug (064)"; pv Rg4 Rb4 Qg6 Rxg4 Qxg4 Qf6; ce 177;
After almost 2 days searching at 8M nps, Stockfish-1.7.1 (8 threads) find Bxh6:

Code: Select all

Searching: 1rbr2k1/4q1p1/p2bp2p/8/R6P/3QB1P1/4PPB1/2R3K1 w - -
infinite: 0 ponder: 0 time: 0 increment: 0 moves to go: 0
 2     +1.13   00:01     3608 Bd4 e5 
 2     +1.66   00:01     4107 Qg6 Rb2 Bxh6 Rxe2 
 3     +1.45   00:01     5002 Qg6 Qf7 Be4 Qxg6 Bxg6 
 4     +1.45   00:01     5832 Qg6 Qf7 Be4 Qxg6 Bxg6 
 5     +0.97   00:01     7487 Qg6 Qf7 Qxf7+ Kxf7 Ra2 Be5 
 5     +1.05   00:01    12489 Rd1 Bc7 Rd4 Rxd4 Qxd4 Bb7 
 6     +1.05   00:01    14198 Rd1 Bc7 Rd4 Rxd4 Bxd4 e5 Be3 
 6     +1.09   00:01    17320 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Be6 Rxa6 Rb2 
 7     +1.09   00:01    24296 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Be6 Bd5 Rb2 Rxa6 Bxd5 Qxd5+ Qf7 
 8  >  +1.17   00:01    38982 Rd4 Bb7 Bxb7 Rxb7 Rc6 
 8     +1.05   00:01    44454 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Be6 Bd5 Rb5 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Rxa6 Rb2 
 8  >  +1.25   00:01    54166 Qc2 Bb7 Bxb7 Qxb7 Qg6 
 9  >  +1.13   00:01    86390 Rd4 Bb7 Bxb7 Rxb7 Rc6 
 9  >  +1.21   00:01    89172 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Be6 Rxa6 Bb4 Qg6 
 9  >  +1.37   00:01    95884 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Be6 Rxa6 Bb4 Qg6 
 9     +1.29   00:01   109779 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Rb2 Qc3 Rb5 Bc6 Bb4 Qc2 Rb8 
10     +1.09   00:01   155543 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Rb2 Qc3 Rb5 Qc2 Bb7 Bxb7 Qxb7 Qa2+ Kh8 
                              Rxa6 Rb2 
11     +1.21   00:01   370827 Rd4 e5 Ra4 Rb2 Qc3 Rb5 Qc2 Bb7 Bxb7 Qxb7 Qa2+ Kh8 
                              Rxa6 Rb2 Qc4 Qb4 
12  <  +0.97   00:01   750209 Rd4 e5 Bd5+ Kh8 Ra4 Bb4 Qe4 a5 Rc6 Bb7 
12     +1.17   00:01    1259k Qc2 Ba3 Ra1 Bd6 Be4 Be5 Bc5 Bd6 Bxd6 Qxd6 Bh7+ 
                              Kh8 Qg6 e5 
13  <  +1.05   00:01    1566k Qc2 Ba3 Rf1 Bd6 Rc1 
13  <  +0.93   00:02    2920k Qc2 Qf6 Ra2 e5 Bd5+ Kh8 Rd1 Bb4 
13  >  +1.29   00:02    5114k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Rb2 Qxc8 Rxc8 Rxc8+ Bf8 Bd4 
13     +1.17   00:02    5556k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Bd4 e5 Be3 Qf8 Ba7 Rb5 Qc3 Bb7 
                              Bxb7 Rxb7 Rxa6 
14  <  +1.09   00:02    6158k Qc2 Be5 f4 Bf6 Bc5 Qd7 Be4 Rb2 Bh7+ Kh8 
14  <  +1.01   00:02    7251k Qc2 Be5 f4 Bf6 Bc5 Qd7 Be4 Rb2 Bh7+ Kh8 
14  >  +1.25   00:03   10051k Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rb2 Qc4 Bf6 Qxc8 Rxc8 Rxc8+ Kf7 Bc5 
14     +1.21   00:03   10546k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Rb1 Rxb1+ Qxb1 e5 Qb6 Bf8 Bd3 Rd6 
                              Qc7 Bf5 Bxf5 Rd1+ Kh2 Qxf5 Rxa6 
15  <  +1.13   00:03   11060k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Rb1 e5 Rxb8 Bxb8 Ra1 Bd7 Qb3 Bb5 
                              Ra2 Bd6 Qd5 Bb4 
15     +1.17   00:03   11619k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Rb1 e5 Rxb8 Bxb8 Ra1 Bd7 Qb3 Bb5 
                              Ra2 Bd6 h5 Be7 f3 
16  >  +1.25   00:03   12325k Qc2 Ba3 Ra1 Bd6 Be4 Kh8 Rd1 e5 Raa1 Be6 Qd3 
16  <  +1.09   00:04   12797k Qc2 Qf6 Rd1 Kh8 Qd3 e5 Bd5 Rb5 
16     +1.17   00:04   14029k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Rb1 Rxb1+ Qxb1 e5 Qb6 Bf8 Qxf6 
                              gxf6 Bd3 Kg7 Kg2 h5 f3 Be7 Bxa6 
17  >  +1.25   00:04   15925k Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rb2 Qc4 Bf6 Qxc8 Rxc8 Rxc8+ Kf7 Bc5 
17     +1.21   00:05   21135k Qc2 Be5 Be4 Qd6 Qd3 Qxd3 Bxd3 Rb2 f4 Bd6 Kf2 e5 
                              Bxa6 Bf5 Bc4+ Kh7 Ra6 exf4 gxf4 Be7 h5 
18  >  +1.29   00:06   28538k Qc2 Bb7 Bxb7 Qxb7 Qc4 Qd7 Rxa6 Rb2 Ra7 
18  <  +1.13   00:06   30429k Qc2 Be5 Qc4 Bb2 Rb1 Be5 Rxb8 Bxb8 Kh2 Ba7 
18     +1.29   00:08   36952k Qc2 Be5 Be4 Qd6 Qd3 Qe7 Qc4 Bb2 Rb1 Be5 Rxb8 Bxb8 
                              Ra1 Ba7 Bf4 Bb6 Be5 Qc5 Qxc5 Bxc5 Kg2 
19  <  +1.17   00:08   39325k Qc2 Be5 Qc4 Bf6 Bc5 Qc7 
19     +1.17   00:13   74220k Qc2 Be5 Ra2 Bd6 Rd1 Be5 Rxd8+ Qxd8 Bf3 Qe8 Ba7 
                              Rb4 Bc5 Rb8 Qe4 Bf6 Bd6 Bb7 Qd3 Bxf3 exf3 Qb5 
                              Qxb5 Rxb5 Rxa6 
20     +1.13   00:14   86071k Qc2 Be5 Ra2 Bd6 Rd1 Be5 Rxd8+ Qxd8 Bf3 Qe8 Kg2 
                              Qd7 Qe4 Rb5 Qg6 Qf7 Qg4 Kh8 Be4 Bb7 Qf3 Bxe4 Qxe4 
                              a5 Qa8+ Rb8 Qxa5 
21  >  +1.25   00:29  190968k Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rb2 Qc4 Bd6 Qd4 Rxe2 Bd3 e5 Qe4 
21     +1.21   00:40  275321k Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rf8 Ra2 Rd8 Qa4 Bd6 Qc4 Ba3 Rca1 Bb2 
                              Rb1 Rb4 Qc2 Be5 Rb3 Rxb3 Qxb3 Qf6 Bd3 Qe7 Bxa6 
22  >  +1.33   00:54  374402k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Rb1 Rxb1+ Qxb1 Rf8 Qb6 Qe7 Ra1 
                              Qf6 
22     +1.17   01:12  502556k Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rd7 h5 Rd8 Qc4 Bd6 Qc3 e5 Rd1 Kh8 f3 
                              Qe6 g4 Rb3 Qc1 Qd7 Ra5 Qc7 Qxc7 Bxc7 Rxd8+ Bxd8 
23  >  +1.25   01:18  549454k Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Qe7 Bd3 Bb7 Bxa6 Rdc8 Bc4 Bd5 Qg6 Qf7 
                              Qd3 Ra8 Rxa8 Rxa8 Bxd5 exd5 Bd4 
23  >  +1.33   01:40  712556k Qc2 Bb4 Rb1 e5 Be4 Kh8 Bd3 Be6 Rxa6 
23     +1.17   02:28    1070M Qc2 Rf8 Qg6 Qe8 Qxe8 Rxe8 Rac4 Ba3 Ra1 Bb2 Ra2 
                              Rd8 Be4 Bf6 Rc1 Bd4 Bxd4 Rxd4 Bd3 Kf7 f3 Rd6 Kf2 
                              e5 Rc7+ Kf6 h5 
24  >  +1.25   02:40    1150M Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Rb1 Rxb1+ Qxb1 e5 
24  >  +1.33   02:53    1244M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rb2 Qc4 Bb7 Bxb7 Rxb7 Rxa6 Bb2 Rxe6 
24     +1.33   02:58    1283M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rb2 Qc4 Qe8 Ra5 Bd6 Bd3 Bb7 Qg4 Rb4 
                              Rc4 Rxc4 Bxc4 Bc5 Qxe6+ Qxe6 Bxe6+ Kh8 Ra1 Bxe3 
                              fxe3 Re8 Bc4 Rxe3 Kf2 Rc3 Bxa6 Be4 Bb5 Kg8 Ra7 
                              Kh7 
25     +1.33   03:55    1697M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Kh8 Qc4 Bb2 Rb1 Be5 Rxb8 Bxb8 Kg2 Qc7 
                              Qxc7 Bxc7 Rc4 Ba5 Rc1 Kg8 f4 Kf7 h5 Ke7 Bc5+ Kf6 
                              Ra1 Bc3 Ra3 Be1 
26  <  +1.25   05:03    2195M Qc2 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Qc4 Bd7 Ra5 Bb5 
26  >  +1.41   06:04    2636M Qc2 Ba3 Ra1 Bd6 Rd4 e5 Rdd1 Qf6 Be4 Kh8 Rd2 Rf8 
                              Rxd6 Qxd6 Bc5 Qf6 Bxf8 Qxf8 Qc3 Qe8 f3 Rb5 Qc7 
26     +1.45   09:07    4021M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Qd7 Qc4 Bb2 Rb1 Be5 Rb6 Rxb6 Bxb6 Rf8 
                              f4 Bb8 Ra5 Ba7 Bxa7 Qxa7+ Kf1 Rd8 Rc5 Bd7 Rc7 Qb6 
                              Qc3 e5 Bd5+ Kh7 Qxe5 Bh3+ Ke1 Qg1+ Kd2 Qxg3 Kc2 
                              Bd7 Be4+ Kh8 
27  <  +1.33   09:25    4151M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Qd7 Qc4 Bb2 Rb1 Be5 Rxb8 Bxb8 Ra5 Ba7 
                              Qc3 Bxe3 
27     +1.37   10:03    4426M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Qd7 Qc4 Bb2 Rb1 Be5 Rxb8 Bxb8 Kg2 Qb5 
                              Qa2 Kh8 f3 e5 g4 Bd6 Bd3 Qe8 Qc4 Bb7 g5 Rc8 Qb3 
                              Rb8 Qa2 e4 Bxe4 Bxe4 Rxe4 
28     +1.45   11:12    4938M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Qd7 Qc4 Bb2 Rb1 Be5 Rxb8 Bxb8 Kg2 Qe7 
                              Ra2 Ba7 Bxa7 Qxa7 f3 Qb6 h5 Rf8 Ra3 Qd6 Ra5 Rd8 
                              Qc2 Qd2 Qxd2 Rxd2 Bd3 Kf7 Kf2 Kf6 Ke3 Rb2 Bxa6 
                              Bxa6 Rxa6 Ke5 f4+ Kd5 
29  <  +1.33   19:06    8538M Qc2 Be5 Be4 Rd7 
29  >  +1.58   22:13    9980M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 
29  >  +1.70   23:52   10742M Rg4 Qf6 Bd4 e5 Bd5+ Be6 Rg6 Qxg6 Qxg6 Bxd5 Bc3 
29     +1.62   28:20   12883M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 Qf7 Qxh6 Rb4 Rg6 Bb7 Bxb7 Rxb7 Rg4 
                              Qf5 Qg5 Rd5 Rc8+ Kh7 Rgc4 a5 Qxf5+ exf5 Kg2 Kg6 
                              R4c6+ Kf7 Ra8 Bc7 Kf3 Bd6 Bb6 Bb4 h5 Re7 Be3 Re6 
                              Rc7+ Kf6 Rac8 
30     +1.66   30:18   13773M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 Qf7 Qxh6 Rb4 Rg6 Bb7 Bxb7 Rxb7 Rg4 
                              Qf5 Qg5 Rd5 Rc8+ Kf7 Kg2 Qxg5 Rxg5 a5 Ra8 Bc3 
                              Rxd5 exd5 Kf3 Ke6 Bc5 Kd7 Ra6 Rb5 Be3 Rb7 h5 Rb5 
                              g4 
31     +1.70   39:20   18011M Rg4 Rb4 Qg6 Rxg4 Qxg4 Kh8 Be4 Qf7 Rd1 Be7 Rxd8+ 
                              Bxd8 Bg6 Qf6 Bd3 Bb7 Qa4 Qe7 Bxa6 Bxa6 Qxa6 Qd7 
                              Qa8 Qd5 Qxd5 exd5 Kg2 Kg8 Kf3 Kf7 Bc5 Bf6 Ke3 Ke6 
                              h5 Kf5 Bd4 Bxd4+ Kxd4 Ke6 e3 Kd6 f3 
32     +1.70   44:59   20693M Rg4 Rb4 Qg6 Rxg4 Qxg4 Kh8 Be4 Qf7 Rd1 Be7 Rxd8+ 
                              Bxd8 Bg6 Qf6 Bd3 Bb7 Qa4 Qe7 Bxa6 Bxa6 Qxa6 Qd7 
                              Qa8 Kh7 h5 Qd5 Qxd5 exd5 Bd4 Kg8 Kg2 Kf7 Kf3 Bg5 
                              e4 dxe4+ Kxe4 Bf6 Bc5 Be7 Bxe7 Kxe7 Ke5 Kf7 f3 
                              Ke7 
33  >  +1.78 1:02:30   29087M Rg4 Ba3 Qg6 Bxc1 Be4 Rd1+ Kg2 Qf7 Qh7+ Kf8 Bxc1 
                              Rxc1 Qh8+ Ke7 Rxg7 Re1 Rxf7+ Kxf7 Qh7+ Ke8 Qxh6 
                              Rg1+ Kxg1 
33     +1.74 1:22:19   38499M Rg4 Ba3 Qg6 Qf7 Qxf7+ Kxf7 Rc7+ Be7 Rf4+ Ke8 Bc6+ 
                              Bd7 Re4 Bxc6 Rxc6 Kf7 Rxa6 Rd6 Ra7 Rbd8 Rf4+ Ke8 
                              Kg2 Bf6 Rfa4 R6d7 R7a6 Kf7 f4 Bd4 Kf3 Bxe3 Kxe3 
                              Rc7 Ra7 Rdd7 Rxc7 Rxc7 Ke4 Kf6 e3 h5 Ra6 Rb7 Kd4 
                              Rb4+ Kc5 
34     +1.70 1:38:17   46274M Rg4 Ba3 Qg6 Qf7 Qxf7+ Kxf7 Rc7+ Be7 Rf4+ Ke8 Bc6+ 
                              Bd7 Re4 Bxc6 Rxc6 Kf7 Rxa6 Rd6 Ra7 Rbd8 Rf4+ Ke8 
                              Kg2 Bf6 Rfa4 R6d7 R7a6 Kf7 f4 Bd4 Kf3 Bxe3 Kxe3 
                              Rc7 Ra7 Rdd7 Rxc7 Rxc7 Ke4 Kf6 g4 h5 g5+ Ke7 e3 
                              g6 Ra6 Rc3 
35  >  +1.78 2:18:05   65508M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 Qf6 Qxh6 Qxh6 Bxh6 Bd7 Bg5 Rdc8 Rxc8+ 
                              Bxc8 Ra4 
35  >  +1.86 2:51:00   81440M Rg4 Rb4 Qg6 Qf7 Bxh6 Qxg6 Rxg6 Kh7 Bg5 Kxg6 Bxd8 
35  >  +2.02 3:51:45  110858M Rg4 
35     +1.78 4:27:11  127621M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 Qf7 Qxh6 Rb4 Rg5 Bd7 Qh5 Bd6 Qf3 Rdb8 
                              h5 Qxf3 Bxf3 Be7 Ra5 Bb5 Ra2 Kf7 Rac2 Bd6 Kg2 Be5 
                              Bg5 Ba4 Rc5 Bd6 R5c3 R4b5 Rc6 Bxg3 fxg3 Rxg5 Rxa6 
                              Bb3 Ra7+ Kf6 Rcc7 Bd5 e4 Rb2+ Kh3 
36  >  +1.90 5:16:32  151571M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 Qf6 Qxh6 Qxh6 Bxh6 Bb7 Bg5 
36  >  +2.02 6:22:05  183533M Rg4 Bb7 Qg6 Ba3 
36    +1.94 10:13:57  297618M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 Qf7 Qxh6 Rb4 Rg5 Bd7 Qh5 Bd6 Qxf7+ 
                              Kxf7 Bf3 Bb5 Kg2 Be7 Bh5+ Kg8 Re5 Bd7 Bf3 Rc8 
                              Rxc8+ Bxc8 Ra5 Rc4 Ra2 Kf7 Ba8 Bb4 f3 Rc3 Bd2 Ra3 
                              Rxa3 Bxa3 Be4 Kf6 f4 e5 Kf3 Bb2 e3 Bd7 Bd5 exf4 
                              gxf4 Be6 e4 Bxd5 exd5 
37    +1.90 13:02:43  381705M Rg4 Rb4 Qg6 Rxg4 Qxg4 Kh8 Be4 Qf6 Rc6 Bb8 Kg2 Bd7 
                              Rxa6 e5 Qg6 Qxg6 Rxg6 Bb5 Bf3 Bc7 Bc5 Kg8 Re6 Re8 
                              Rxe8+ Bxe8 Bd5+ Kh7 Kf3 Kg6 Be7 Bb6 e3 Bc7 Kg2 
                              Kf5 f3 h5 e4+ Kg6 Bc5 Kf6 Kf2 Bb5 Ke3 Bd7 Bc4 Bc6 
                              Kd2 
38  > +2.02 16:03:47  470382M Rg4 Bb7 Qg6 
38    +2.02 17:31:23  513488M Rg4 Rb4 Qg6 Rxg4 Qxg4 Qf6 Rc6 Be5 Qc4 Rd1+ Kh2 
                              Bd7 Rxa6 Ra1 Rxa1 Bxa1 Qc7 Qf7 Be4 Bf6 Bc5 Qe8 
                              Qd6 Bb5 e3 Bc4 Kg2 Qd8 Qxd8+ Bxd8 Bg6 Bb3 f3 Bf6 
                              Kf2 Bc3 h5 Bd1 Bd6 Bd2 Be8 Bc3 Bc5 Bd2 Bd4 Bb4 e4 
                              Kf8 Bb5 Kf7 Ke3 Be7 Bc4 Bf6 
39  < +1.86 23:27:51  692625M Rg4 Be5 
39    +1.86 29:11:42  863501M Rg4 Be5 Qg6 Qf7 Qxh6 Rb4 Qg6 Qxg6 Rxg6 Bd7 Rg5 
                              Bf6 Rgc5 Bb5 Bh3 Re4 R5c2 Rd7 Bg2 Ra4 f4 Kf7 Kf2 
                              Bd4 Rc8 Bxe3+ Kxe3 Ra3+ Kf2 Ra2 Bf3 Kf6 Rb8 Rad2 
                              Rcc8 Rb2 Rf8+ Rf7 Rfd8 g6 Rd6 Rc2 Rbb6 Re7 Rb8 
39  > +2.18 30:30:14  903106M Bxh6 
39  > +2.34 32:05:01  951254M Bxh6 gxh6 
39  > +2.67 35:16:40 1044283M Bxh6 
39    +2.91 42:53:46 1273650M Bxh6 Be5 Qe4 Bb2 Bg5 Qf7 Bxd8 Bxc1 Ba5 Bd7 Rc4 
                              Ba3 Bh3 Rc8 Rxc8+ Bxc8 Bg4 Bf8 e3 Kh8 h5 Qf6 Qa8 
                              Qa1+ Kg2 Qxa5 Qxc8 Qd5+ Kg1 Qc5 Qxa6 Qd6 Qc8 e5 
                              Bf3 Kg8 Qc4+ Kh8 Kg2 Qc5 Qg4 Qd6 Be4 Kg8 Qf5 Qf6 
                              Qd7 Be7 f3 Qd6 Bd5+ Kh7 Qf5+ Kh6
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Dann Corbit
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Re: 9 troublemakers from Der brillante Schachzug

Post by Dann Corbit »

That rates a "WOW!"

I think that is the longest time to resolution for a successful search that I have seen.
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