Vishy made brilliant psychological move? (game 7)

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Re: Vishy made brilliant psychological move? (game 7)

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Many many many of Carlsen's wins are wins that were in theoretically drawn positions. That is his strength and that is how he has amassed the highest ELO in the history of chess. The joke is that nobody can squeeze water out of stone except for Carlsen. Anand had to play brilliantly and with a lot of imagination to secure a draw. Although it looked easy, there were a lot of moves that had to be super accurate to draw. It is also a good idea to make your opponent work hard to achieve a draw as that takes up some stamina and confidence for the next game. But somehow I think Anand understood the position very well and he really was never in danger as I really don't think the win was there. What I found very interesting is that Komodo was the engine with the most accurate evaluation in the endgame.
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Re: Vishy made brilliant psychological move? (game 7)

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M ANSARI wrote:Many many many of Carlsen's wins are wins that were in theoretically drawn positions. That is his strength and that is how he has amassed the highest ELO in the history of chess. The joke is that nobody can squeeze water out of stone except for Carlsen. Anand had to play brilliantly and with a lot of imagination to secure a draw. Although it looked easy, there were a lot of moves that had to be super accurate to draw. It is also a good idea to make your opponent work hard to achieve a draw as that takes up some stamina and confidence for the next game. But somehow I think Anand understood the position very well and he really was never in danger as I really don't think the win was there. What I found very interesting is that Komodo was the engine with the most accurate evaluation in the endgame.
I agree that Anand probably knew the result of the game would end in a draw when he played this line of the Berlin so quickly. After all the line chosen did not leave Carlsen much to work with when they reached the endgame phase of the game. While I cannot say that I agreed with the strategy to play this way, it seemed clear to me that Anand would rather take his chances with the white pieces.

Carlsen on the other hand had nothing to lose, so why not play on. Both players had to expend energy on the endgame that followed, and with Carlsen being the younger of the two players I think it cost Anand more in this match stamina wise. As carlsen himself hinted in the post game conference.

"When he went for this line I thought he already signed up for suffering, so it didn't make that much difference"
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Re: Vishy made brilliant psychological move? (game 7)

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AdminX wrote:
I agree that Anand probably knew the result of the game would end in a draw when he played this line of the Berlin so quickly. After all the line chosen did not leave Carlsen much to work with when they reached the endgame phase of the game. While I cannot say that I agreed with the strategy to play this way, it seemed clear to me that Anand would rather take his chances with the white pieces.

Carlsen on the other hand had nothing to lose, so why not play on. Both players had to expend energy on the endgame that followed, and with Carlsen being the younger of the two players I think it cost Anand more in this match stamina wise. As carlsen himself hinted i the post game conference.

"When he went for this line I thought he already signed up for suffering, so it didn't make that much difference"
EXACTLY!!!
This is also a good sign that i might be right about the whole psychology of Magnus!!!!
It could mean it was an intended counter psychology attack back to Anand.