Vishy made brilliant psychological move? (game 7)

[S.Taylor]

with 38....Bxg4
It's a bishop sac in the end game, and IF it ends in a draw, then i would say it might be brilliant, and a brilliant psychological move to stop carsen from thinking he can always play around with anand when he wants!

Some Gm's think that maybe Magnus can win, but no one really says so for sure.

Perhaps magnus can NOT win, and Anand knows it, even though other Gm's do not?

In conclusion I would say that if it IS a proven draw, or even if it just becomes a draw, then Anand is GREAT!

He might be trying to give magnus the feeling that HE is the one who can play around with his younger opponent at will!

And it can also make magnus think twice about going in for end game grinds in the future.

And, it also provides entertainment for the public, from a very uneventful looking position.

So if it IS a draw, I'd highly praise Anand. And if Magnus wins, then that would be a shame!

Anand to win this game? no, it's an investment for next games. But it still gives magnus a little danger of going crazy and losing, which would kill him psychologically too.

[S.Taylor]

BUT................
What Anand did, IF my commentary is correct, is certainly legitimate, even if it is psychological warfare, as it is ONLY a legitimate chess move.

But what Magnus did, might NOT have been legitimate being that he continued the game long after it was a clear draw, seemingly to try and tire out the older man with intent to induce a serious blunder that would lose him the game.

[yanquis1972]

how is that in any way illegitimate???

as for the original idea of the post, anand toying with carlsen...no. it was very much the other way around.

[Uri Blass]

BUT................
What Anand did, IF my commentary is correct, is certainly legitimate, even if it is psychological warfare, as it is ONLY a legitimate chess move.

But what Magnus did, might NOT have been legitimate being that he continued the game long after it was a clear draw, seemingly to try and tire out the older man with intent to induce a serious blunder that would lose him the game.

I support anand and not carlsen but I think that it is clearly legitimate to continue a clear draw because you hope for a mistake of the opponent.

[Uri Blass]

how is that in any way illegitimate???

as for the original idea of the post, anand toying with carlsen...no. it was very much the other way around.

I totally agree.

I also see no brilliant psychological move by anand.

getting a draw that you need to suffer for it is not a brilliant psychological move(You can say that it is a logical move if the alternative is worse or give the opponent better winning chances so I do not say anand did something illogical)

[S.Taylor]

how is that in any way illegitimate???

as for the original idea of the post, anand toying with carlsen...no. it was very much the other way around.

I totally agree.

I also see no brilliant psychological move by anand.

getting a draw that you need to suffer for it is not a brilliant psychological move(You can say that it is a logical move if the alternative is worse or give the opponent better winning chances so I do not say anand did something illogical)

I thought, even if it WAS a good move objectively, that Anand was giving a bait and saying "you like a little extra material because of your great ability to grind it into a win against an old man? Here! take even more! see what you can do with THAT!", and that Anand was saying with it that he himself is not afraid, even when a game down, but he, the little kid Carlsen will undoubtedly break his tiny head over it, for nothing.

And Carlsen himself indeed said after the game that he thought he could win but didn't succeed.

[since Vishy did such a sac, it is not logical to say that he would have risked losing by doing so]

And if that is the case, it looks to me like a kind of revenge that Carlsen made to Anand, to make him regret his trick of making him (Carlsen) do a lot of work for nothing, and therefore he did that in return, to make Anand do a lot of hard work... to see who finds it easier to do extra hard work! And it was therefore Carlsen again, dictating the life of Anand for a few hours, and literally imprisoning him for a time.

Even if this may have been revenge, it was very lowly of Carlsen to do it in this way!

All this is is what i was thinking.

[Dirt]

I suspect that Anand thought the sacrifice was the clearest route to a draw. The result bore that out. If other GMs though otherwise, well, they are mostly weaker than Anand.

[Dirt]

Even if this may have been revenge, it was very lowly of Carlsen to do it in this way!

It wasn't revenge, and it wasn't lowly. Carlsen would treat any other opponent the same in an important game. Player who wouldn't do this are stupid.

[S.Taylor]

Even if this may have been revenge, it was very lowly of Carlsen to do it in this way!

It wasn't revenge, and it wasn't lowly. Carlsen would treat any other opponent the same in an important game. Player who wouldn't do this are stupid.

That might be YOUR opinion because I don't think others have done this, or hardly.

[S.Taylor]

I suspect that Anand thought the sacrifice was the clearest route to a draw. The result bore that out. If other GMs though otherwise, well, they are mostly weaker than Anand.

What ever the case which Anand might have also had in mind, or not,

Don't you think it was a provocative line to go down against the personality and abilities of Magnus?

And since Magnus said after the game that he admits he thought he could win after that, isn't it possible that a).Anand THOUGHT Magnus would think he could win and b). Anand KNEW he could not, and c). that Magnus would try like mad, and d). that Magnus might then have a little more respect for him, Anand, when he finds Anand was right all along and could only manage a draw? and, e). Magnus might have a little more fear of Anand and end up making a mistake or two more in the match which might possibly play into Anands favor?
AND f). Wasn't this a part of the entertainment for all the spectators, this psychological brawl?

(bad terror attack now, OT sorry!)