Danish Gambit.
Maybe the author of this message might kindly inform us where does the opening book end and real play start, and what are the evals of both programs at this critical junction.
In case they are not very big in favour of one side, which might frequently happen with gambits, we might deem this game for acceptable display of strength on the part of both sides; otherwise, a very favourable eval for one side, say bigger than 40cps, might already considerably compromise the quality of the game and in this way serious doubts about whether this is SF's immortal or not might arise.
Btw., I agree that Andersen frequently outperformed SF in this game what concerns sacrificial play.
Stockfish's Immortal
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yanquis1972
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal
wait, whats the identity? this is what vas is doing these days??
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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal
Those are only assumptions.yanquis1972 wrote:wait, whats the identity? this is what vas is doing these days??
I did not mention the name, it was Kim who did it, but too many things seem to point to a similar direction.
Who would hate SF so much, that he is going to distribute a vast variety of clones under different fake authorship?
Who would hate SF so much, that he is going to create fake accounts on fishtest and push fake tests, bearing names like Pawn love and Flirty pawn? Why do that? Repeatedly?
Who would call Larry Kaufman in a message The lying GM you are? Why do that, if no stakes involved? Such a harsh attack.
Who would attack Hyatt for a personal technical opinion in a harsh way in another Pychess thread, with ill-concealed antipathy? Why do that, if no stakes involved?
Who would like to stay in the way of every creative thread in this forum? Why do that?
Seemingly, rivals like Komodo and SF should bear the brunt of such attacks. Whose rivals are SF and Komodo?
Well, Houdini was somehow almost ignored in those attacks, maybe for a reason, just an innocent Houdini 5 thread with a fake announcement, but then, Houdini is already currently out of the game.
Then this very same thread, with a game involving the Danish Gambit, most probably stemming from a book on gambits published recently with a source Rybka forum.
Most conspicuously, see how this thread begins: Lacino was a private tournament held on two large servers of a hosting company, the tournament was organized and administered by it's chess-admiring employee. The machines used, therefore, were not his. One might postulate that this was an illegal tournament, that it's games have no right to be published and enjoyed by the general public but this game, this one game, deserves to be shared with the world.
Why stress legality of the game? Why indeed?
If this is true, then maybe this was the good news concerning Rybka some forum members kindly foretold us earlier in the year.
Again, pure assumptions, no one knows who Lanzo Nazaire really is, but what there is no doubt about is that he wrought a lot of havoc both here and on fishtest. I am still waiting from Lanzo a single message that would not be fake.
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lucasart
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal
This opening is simply ridiculous. It is obvious that neither SF nor Komodo played the opening moves themselves. You could at least give Komodo a rematch with the same opening played as white (and probably will be 1-0 as well).Lanzo wrote:Lacino was a private tournament held on two large servers of a hosting company, the tournament was organized and administered by it's chess-admiring employee. The machines used, therefore, were not his. One might postulate that this was an illegal tournament, that it's games have no right to be published and enjoyed by the general public but this game, this one game, deserves to be shared with the world. I don't think Stockfish can play such a beautiful game ever again, maybe it has already played an even better game but this was certainly the greatest performance I have ever seen from it. Throughout the game, you'll witness a fertile Stockfish chasing Komodo's king, as if he had mistakenly attached a picture of Miranda Kerr in a swimsuit on his head.
The version of Stockfish in this game was 120615 BMI2 (the latest developmental version) and the version of Komodo was 9.01 64-bit. The time control was 60+20, with each engine running on 36 cores and 2GB hash.
[pgn]
[Event "Lacino 2015"]
[Date "2015.06.13"]
[Round "Final"]
[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Time "18:32:00"]
[PlyCount "68"]
1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+ 6. Kf1 Nf6 7. e5 Ne4 8.
Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. Qf3+ Ke8 10. Qxe4 Na6 11. h4 Qe7 12. Nf3 d5 13. Qxd5 c6 14. Qe4
Rf8 15. Qxh7 Bf5 16. Qh5+ Kd7 17. Nbd2 Nc5 18. Nb3 Ne6 19. Kg1 Rad8 20. Rd1+
Kc8 21. Rxd8+ Nxd8 22. Nbd4 Bd7 23. Kh2 Ne6 24. Rd1 Nxd4 25. Bxd4 b6 26. Be3
Be6 27. Ng5 Bxa2 28. Qg4+ Kb8 29. Rd7 Qxe5+ 30. g3 Qb2 31. Nf7 g5 32. Qxg5 Ka8
33. Qf4 Rc8 34. Nd8 1-0
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Theory and practice sometimes clash. And when that happens, theory loses. Every single time.