Stockfish's Immortal

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Lanzo
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Stockfish's Immortal

Post by Lanzo »

Lacino was a private tournament held on two large servers of a hosting company, the tournament was organized and administered by it's chess-admiring employee. The machines used, therefore, were not his. One might postulate that this was an illegal tournament, that it's games have no right to be published and enjoyed by the general public but this game, this one game, deserves to be shared with the world. I don't think Stockfish can play such a beautiful game ever again, maybe it has already played an even better game but this was certainly the greatest performance I have ever seen from it. Throughout the game, you'll witness a fertile Stockfish chasing Komodo's king, as if he had mistakenly attached a picture of Miranda Kerr in a swimsuit on his head.

The version of Stockfish in this game was 120615 BMI2 (the latest developmental version) and the version of Komodo was 9.01 64-bit. The time control was 60+20, with each engine running on 36 cores and 2GB hash.

[pgn]
[Event "Lacino 2015"]
[Date "2015.06.13"]
[Round "Final"]
[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Time "18:32:00"]
[PlyCount "68"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+ 6. Kf1 Nf6 7. e5 Ne4 8.
Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. Qf3+ Ke8 10. Qxe4 Na6 11. h4 Qe7 12. Nf3 d5 13. Qxd5 c6 14. Qe4
Rf8 15. Qxh7 Bf5 16. Qh5+ Kd7 17. Nbd2 Nc5 18. Nb3 Ne6 19. Kg1 Rad8 20. Rd1+
Kc8 21. Rxd8+ Nxd8 22. Nbd4 Bd7 23. Kh2 Ne6 24. Rd1 Nxd4 25. Bxd4 b6 26. Be3
Be6 27. Ng5 Bxa2 28. Qg4+ Kb8 29. Rd7 Qxe5+ 30. g3 Qb2 31. Nf7 g5 32. Qxg5 Ka8
33. Qf4 Rc8 34. Nd8 1-0
[/pgn]
Modern Times
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by Modern Times »

Lanzo wrote: Throughout the game, you'll witness a fertile Stockfish chasing Komodo's king, as if he had mistakenly attached a picture of Miranda Kerr in a swimsuit on his head.
:lol:
kgburcham
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by kgburcham »

Did stockfish win or did Komodo lose? big difference.
I ran a blunder check with histogram and found a blunder in this program game. this never happens, only in 2700 human games do I see plays like this one. I tried to duplicate, could not.


Komodo 9

31.01 5:10 +0.94++ 28...Kc7 (5.575.827.960) 17979 TB:1.663.863
before the blunder 28...Kb8


[d] 2k2r2/p3q1p1/1pp5/4P1N1/1b4QP/4B3/b4PPK/3R4 b - -

after the blunder
[d] 1k3r2/p3q1p1/1pp5/4P1N1/1b4QP/4B3/b4PPK/3R4 w - -
32.01 2:41 +4.58++ 29.Rd7 (3.348.539.805) 20729 TB:1.485.476

[Event "Lacino 2015"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2015.06.13"]
[Round "Final"]
[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+
6. Kf1 Nf6 7. e5 Ne4 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. Qf3+ Ke8 10. Qxe4 Na6
11. h4 Qe7 12. Nf3 d5 13. Qxd5 c6 14. Qe4 Rf8 15. Qxh7 Bf5
16. Qh5+ Kd7 17. Nbd2 Nc5 18. Nb3 Ne6 19. Kg1 Rad8 20. Rd1+
Kc8 21. Rxd8+ Nxd8 22. Nbd4 Bd7 23. Kh2 Ne6 24. Rd1 Nxd4
25. Bxd4 b6 26. Be3 Be6 27. Ng5 Bxa2 28. Qg4+ Kb8 29. Rd7
Qxe5+ 30. g3 Qb2 31. Nf7 g5 32. Qxg5 Ka8 33. Qf4 Rc8
34. Nd8 1-0
Terry McCracken
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by Terry McCracken »

Lanzo wrote:Lacino was a private tournament held on two large servers of a hosting company, the tournament was organized and administered by it's chess-admiring employee. The machines used, therefore, were not his. One might postulate that this was an illegal tournament, that it's games have no right to be published and enjoyed by the general public but this game, this one game, deserves to be shared with the world. I don't think Stockfish can play such a beautiful game ever again, maybe it has already played an even better game but this was certainly the greatest performance I have ever seen from it. Throughout the game, you'll witness a fertile Stockfish chasing Komodo's king, as if he had mistakenly attached a picture of Miranda Kerr in a swimsuit on his head.

The version of Stockfish in this game was 120615 BMI2 (the latest developmental version) and the version of Komodo was 9.01 64-bit. The time control was 60+20, with each engine running on 36 cores and 2GB hash.

[pgn]
[Event "Lacino 2015"]
[Date "2015.06.13"]
[Round "Final"]
[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Time "18:32:00"]
[PlyCount "68"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+ 6. Kf1 Nf6 7. e5 Ne4 8.
Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. Qf3+ Ke8 10. Qxe4 Na6 11. h4 Qe7 12. Nf3 d5 13. Qxd5 c6 14. Qe4
Rf8 15. Qxh7 Bf5 16. Qh5+ Kd7 17. Nbd2 Nc5 18. Nb3 Ne6 19. Kg1 Rad8 20. Rd1+
Kc8 21. Rxd8+ Nxd8 22. Nbd4 Bd7 23. Kh2 Ne6 24. Rd1 Nxd4 25. Bxd4 b6 26. Be3
Be6 27. Ng5 Bxa2 28. Qg4+ Kb8 29. Rd7 Qxe5+ 30. g3 Qb2 31. Nf7 g5 32. Qxg5 Ka8
33. Qf4 Rc8 34. Nd8 1-0
[/pgn]
This game appears contrived. I doubt it's legitimacy.
Terry McCracken
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by zullil »

It would be interesting to see more than just the moves played: depths, times, evaluations, book info, etc.

My guess is that no such information is available, and that this entire "private tournament" is simply a fiction, created by a person with many fake names.
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Graham Banks
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by Graham Banks »

zullil wrote:It would be interesting to see more than just the moves played: depths, times, evaluations, book info, etc.

My guess is that no such information is available, and that this entire "private tournament" is simply a fiction, created by a person with many fake names.
Clicking on the c8 or d8 square in the diagram would usually give you this information if it was available in the PGN.
In this case, none of that information is available.
gbanksnz at gmail.com
MikeGL
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by MikeGL »

Very nice game indeed.

But most immortal games I have seen has minimal material and mating the opposing king. Morphy, Andersen, Paulsen and other greats who produced classic immortals are some examples.

But this game above has equal material until the end of the game.
Great game though.

edit:
I think I have seen one game of Houdini 2.0 here at talkchess where it gave up many materials against Rybka and it still won. I think that can be considered immortal of Houdini.
Guenther
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by Guenther »

Graham Banks wrote:
zullil wrote:It would be interesting to see more than just the moves played: depths, times, evaluations, book info, etc.

My guess is that no such information is available, and that this entire "private tournament" is simply a fiction, created by a person with many fake names.
Clicking on the c8 or d8 square in the diagram would usually give you this information if it was available in the PGN.
In this case, none of that information is available.
This was of course expected.
Guenther
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by Guenther »

Lanzo wrote:I realize that I went too harsh on you, I apologize. You're a great man for whom I have the highest admiration, but please scrutinize your thought before endowing it upon the world.
All your fake nonsense is boring...
Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Stockfish's Immortal

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

Lanzo wrote:Lacino was a private tournament held on two large servers of a hosting company, the tournament was organized and administered by it's chess-admiring employee. The machines used, therefore, were not his. One might postulate that this was an illegal tournament, that it's games have no right to be published and enjoyed by the general public but this game, this one game, deserves to be shared with the world. I don't think Stockfish can play such a beautiful game ever again, maybe it has already played an even better game but this was certainly the greatest performance I have ever seen from it. Throughout the game, you'll witness a fertile Stockfish chasing Komodo's king, as if he had mistakenly attached a picture of Miranda Kerr in a swimsuit on his head.

The version of Stockfish in this game was 120615 BMI2 (the latest developmental version) and the version of Komodo was 9.01 64-bit. The time control was 60+20, with each engine running on 36 cores and 2GB hash.

[pgn]
[Event "Lacino 2015"]
[Date "2015.06.13"]
[Round "Final"]
[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Komodo"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Time "18:32:00"]
[PlyCount "68"]

1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4 cxb2 5. Bxb2 Bb4+ 6. Kf1 Nf6 7. e5 Ne4 8.
Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. Qf3+ Ke8 10. Qxe4 Na6 11. h4 Qe7 12. Nf3 d5 13. Qxd5 c6 14. Qe4
Rf8 15. Qxh7 Bf5 16. Qh5+ Kd7 17. Nbd2 Nc5 18. Nb3 Ne6 19. Kg1 Rad8 20. Rd1+
Kc8 21. Rxd8+ Nxd8 22. Nbd4 Bd7 23. Kh2 Ne6 24. Rd1 Nxd4 25. Bxd4 b6 26. Be3
Be6 27. Ng5 Bxa2 28. Qg4+ Kb8 29. Rd7 Qxe5+ 30. g3 Qb2 31. Nf7 g5 32. Qxg5 Ka8
33. Qf4 Rc8 34. Nd8 1-0
[/pgn]
I already do not have any doubts about your identity.

Kim was the first to guess, maybe a wild guess then on the spur of the moment, but who in the world could:

- try to disrupt SF development in every possible way, including by submitting large quantities of fake tests, some bearing strange names like 'Pawn love'

- hate Komodo and Larry Kaufman, viscerally

- hate Robert Hyatt, viscerally?

Also, the style of writing, kind of disparaging, kind of haughty, kind of self-humiliating.

Btw., the above game, even if real, strikes me with nothing at all.