SF8 has been released on abrok

[Frank Quisinsky]

Thank's again!

[Leto]

The abrok compiles are around 8.5% slower than the compiles here:

http://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html. Stockfish 161030 is identical to Stockfish 8.
I use these compiles for my SPCC-Testrun. They work perfect and are fast.

Or,,if you want a Numa-Version of Stockfish 8, just download the latest Numa-Brainfish compile on http://zipproth.com. If you dont use the Cerebellum-Library, Brainfish 161030 is identical to Stockfish 8!


Or just wait for the offical compiles on https://stockfishchess.org/download/

Stefan (SPCC)

What do you think will be faster, the Numa-Brainfish compile or the official Stockfish compile?

[pohl4711]

The abrok compiles are around 8.5% slower than the compiles here:

http://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html. Stockfish 161030 is identical to Stockfish 8.
I use these compiles for my SPCC-Testrun. They work perfect and are fast.

Or,,if you want a Numa-Version of Stockfish 8, just download the latest Numa-Brainfish compile on http://zipproth.com. If you dont use the Cerebellum-Library, Brainfish 161030 is identical to Stockfish 8!


Or just wait for the offical compiles on https://stockfishchess.org/download/

Stefan (SPCC)

What do you think will be faster, the Numa-Brainfish compile or the official Stockfish compile?

No idea. At the moment the Brainfish-NUMA compile is the fastest compile of Stockfish, but I dont know, how fast the official release will run. We will have to wait and see.

[APassionForCriminalJustic]

Not released for me, until I see a post here by main developers with link to an official download.

I share your view.

BTW, what is the asm version?

Mohammed's asmFish is Stockfish written in assembly. It is the fastest Stockfish on the planet. It should be about 15 percent faster than Dragon's Ultimaiq compiles of Stockfish. And the Ultimaiq compiles themselves are roughly 8.5 percent faster than the Abrok compiles. The Abrok compiles are slow; it would be nice if the official testers would stop using them since surely Elo could be gained with faster compiles such as the Ultimaiq compiles. But then again I do understand the need to test official Stockfish versions.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Gabor,

why you share the view if you wrote a sentence later "What is the ASM version"?

Could be a Quisinsky live comment!



Stockfish in assembler programming language!

Please have a look under:
http://chess.ultimaiq.net/stockfish.html

Stefan's great site:
http://spcc.beepworld.de/

I think that the SF developer like the ASM version too and the enormous work to do that.

I think great material for Ed.
After all I know Ed is working in assembler a long time.
Ed must love this version and I am sure he is thinking on old times.

Best
Frank

[Werewolf]

Not released for me, until I see a post here by main developers with link to an official download.

I share your view.

BTW, what is the asm version?

Mohammed's asmFish is Stockfish written in assembly. It is the fastest Stockfish on the planet. It should be about 15 percent faster than Dragon's Ultimaiq compiles of Stockfish. And the Ultimaiq compiles themselves are roughly 8.5 percent faster than the Abrok compiles. The Abrok compiles are slow; it would be nice if the official testers would stop using them since surely Elo could be gained with faster compiles

+1

Totally agree Adam

[Wolfgang]

Not released for me, until I see a post here by main developers with link to an official download.

I share your view.

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From abrok.eu/stockfish:

Author: Marco Costalba
Date: Tue Nov 1 10:19:17 2016 +0100
Timestamp: 1477991957

Stockfish 8

Bench: 5926706

No functional change

"Official" enough?

[APassionForCriminalJustic]

Not released for me, until I see a post here by main developers with link to an official download.

I wonder when people will learn that faster compiles/asm versions bring almost nothing at LTC. They migth perform well at very fast TC, but, as tests have already shown, at LTC the benefit is non-existing. I would prefer a single functional change instead.

Really? So why don't you go use some ancient-slow PC with Stockfish and see if you benefit from using it. Nah, actually, why do you not run the latest Stockfish development version on only one core. Forget about your eight-core or quad-core CPU. Speed does not matter right? What an absolutely ridiculous argument that fundamentally makes NO sense. Speed actually does matter. It doesn't matter if it is STC, LTC, or VLTC. Where one can improve the speed of an engine you would always choose that route. It's called progression. The question should be turned around to say, "When will people like yourself quit being in denial, and actually use their brain?!" If you can get millions of more positions searched per second even if the time control is 120 minutes per side the advantage will always lie with that engine that can search effectively more positions. Now I mean this to say two engines that are EXACTLY the same - but one is a lot faster than the other. Obviously you should not compare Komodo versus Stockfish in NPS differentials. In essence, I would prefer both the functional patches - and the speed improvements. Mohammed's asmFish is the best of both worlds. You get the functional patches plus an extra 20+ percent of speed over the Abrok compiles at absolutely no cost. What makes logical sense to you? The same goes with using the Ultimaiq compiles versus the Abrok compiles. I would take that extra eight percent of speed because it comes at NO COST.

[syzygy]

Not released for me, until I see a post here by main developers with link to an official download.

I share your view.

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From abrok.eu/stockfish:

Author: Marco Costalba
Date: Tue Nov 1 10:19:17 2016 +0100
Timestamp: 1477991957

Stockfish 8

Bench: 5926706

No functional change

"Official" enough?

Well, that's just the github commit message. The abrok site is not an official SF channel but a site that happens to tracks what happens on SF github, relays the commit messages and offers compiled binaries.

The release (pre-)announcement is here. It states that the official site will be updated in the following hours. This has not yet happened. It seems "official" binaries are still being produced.

[Gusev]

In addition to asmFish 8, it would also be lovely to have an "official" Cfish 8 release.