Which will be the 1st GUI to Support Non Castling Chess?

[Chessqueen]

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Impressive score of Ethereal Vs Komodo 13.3-64bit-bmi2 at Non Castling Using Cutechess GUI

Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-13.3-64bit-bmi2: 2 - 12 - 13 [0.315]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 2 - 4 - 8 [0.429] 14
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 8 - 5 [0.192] 13
... White vs Black: 10 - 4 - 13 [0.611] 27
Elo difference: -135.1 +/- 97.1, LOS: 0.4 %, DrawRatio: 48.1 %
27 of 60 games finished.

[Chessqueen]

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Impressive score of Ethereal Vs Komodo 13.3-64bit-bmi2 at Non Castling Using Cutechess GUI. I suppose the latest Ethereal version 13.25 must be around 50 rating points above Komodo 13.3, but I will not purchase the latest Ethereal to find out.


Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-13.3-64bit-bmi2: 2 - 13 - 13 [0.304]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 2 - 4 - 8 [0.429] 14
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 9 - 5 [0.179] 14
... White vs Black: 11 - 4 - 13 [0.625] 28
Elo difference: -144.2 +/- 97.5, LOS: 0.2 %, DrawRatio: 46.4 %
28 of 60 games finished.

[Luecx]

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Impressive score of Ethereal Vs Komodo 13.3-64bit-bmi2 at Non Castling Using Cutechess GUI

Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-13.3-64bit-bmi2: 2 - 12 - 13 [0.315]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 2 - 4 - 8 [0.429] 14
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 8 - 5 [0.192] 13
... White vs Black: 10 - 4 - 13 [0.611] 27
Elo difference: -135.1 +/- 97.1, LOS: 0.4 %, DrawRatio: 48.1 %
27 of 60 games finished.

Jeez, can you please stop doing posts like that? its not that people arent interested in those results but please realize that 27 games is NOTHING. It is not even worth a comparison. If you look at proper testing, you will realize that usually way more than thousand games are required to get the elo bars shrinking. I have had so many runs where Koivisto played itself. No difference in version or anything but after 30 games it was down 1-16. It happens and is completely random. Please stop posting these 27-games tests.

[Chessqueen]

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Impressive score of Ethereal Vs Komodo 13.3-64bit-bmi2 at Non Castling Using Cutechess GUI


Jeez, can you please stop doing posts like that? its not that people arent interested in those results but please realize that 27 games is NOTHING. It is not even worth a comparison. If you look at proper testing, you will realize that usually way more than thousand games are required to get the elo bars shrinking. I have had so many runs where Koivisto played itself. No difference in version or anything but after 30 games it was down 1-16. It happens and is completely random. Please stop posting these 27-games tests.

Okay I just played 54 games, but to get an idea you do NOT need 1000 games, it is clear that this Ethereal version is a little bit better than Komodo 13.3-64bit, and Ethereal version 13.25 could be even better than Komodo 14, NOT Komodo Dragon1 of course. I am also wondering if anybody has done any Opening for Non Castling Chess, it should be easy, much easier than creating opening for the Chess960. I also noticed that when GM Anand played versus GM Kramnik they pretty much use the same opening over and over again.

Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-13.3-64bit-bmi2: 4 - 25 - 25 [0.306]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 3 - 10 - 14 [0.370] 27
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 1 - 15 - 11 [0.241] 27
... White vs Black: 18 - 11 - 25 [0.565] 54
Elo difference: -142.6 +/- 69.0, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 46.3 %
54 of 54 games finished.

1. e4 +0.31/25 15s c5 0.00/21 4.4s
2. Nf3 +0.39/25 6.5s Nc6 +0.05/21 3.0s
3. d4 +0.28/25 7.4s cxd4 +0.22/22 2.8s
4. Nxd4 +0.42/25 8.7s e5 +0.23/23 7.0s
5. Nb5 +0.28/25 8.8s d6 +0.09/22 4.6s
6. N1c3 +0.44/25 7.0s a6 +0.17/23 7.2s
7. Na3 +0.18/26 6.6s b5 +0.04/23 6.6s
8. Nd5 +0.60/24 7.0s Nce7 +0.25/23 6.4s
9. c4 +0.38/25 11s Nxd5 +0.06/23 5.4s
10. exd5 +0.34/25 8.5s f5 -0.04/22 4.6s
11. cxb5 +0.60/24 10s Nf6 +0.04/24 12s
12. Bc4 +0.38/24 11s Be7 +0.04/20 6.2s
13. Kf1 +0.38/24 5.7s Kf7 +0.21/23 19s
14. Qe2 +0.53/24 14s axb5 +0.22/24 11s
15. Nxb5 +0.66/24 11s f4 +0.15/22 5.2s
16. h3 +0.37/24 12s Rf8 +0.31/23 6.9s
17. a4 +0.17/27 17s Kg8 0.00/23 3.9s
18. Ra3 +0.49/26 12s Bf5 0.00/24 9.4s
19. Kg1 +0.52/28 15s Bg6 0.00/24 7.4s
20. Kh2 +0.39/29 22s Ne4 -0.22/25 17s
21. Rf1 +0.94/28 13s Qd7 -0.31/25 6.4s
22. Bd3 +0.65/28 12s f3 -0.18/25 6.1s
23. gxf3 +1.11/28 8.5s Ng5 -0.10/26 5.1s
24. Bxg5 +1.20/27 8.2s Bxd3 -0.27/27 7.3s
25. Qxd3 +1.19/26 7.6s Bxg5 -0.30/27 10s
26. Nc3 +1.24/26 9.4s Rf6 -0.47/25 6.9s
27. Ne2 +0.81/25 6.1s Raf8 -0.13/24 9.9s
28. Rg1 +0.01/25 14s Rxf3 +0.15/27 8.8s
29. Qxf3 +0.22/28 14s Rxf3 +0.26/29 11s
30. Rxf3 -0.01/26 4.9s e4 +0.18/28 6.6s
31. Rfg3 -0.01/29 5.1s h6 +0.92/30 19s
32. Rg4 -0.44/26 11s Qf7 +0.88/26 15s
33. a5 -0.40/26 17s Bf6 +0.82/25 11s
34. Rxe4 -0.69/27 9.2s Qxd5 +0.92/26 6.4s
35. Ng3 -0.54/27 5.1s Bxb2 +0.92/29 8.8s
36. a6 -0.74/28 11s Qa5 +0.46/30 38s
37. Rb1 -0.81/28 6.7s Be5 +0.96/29 7.9s
38. Rb8+ -0.83/30 7.3s Kh7 +0.98/30 8.2s
39. Ra8 -0.94/31 8.6s Qc5 +0.89/30 9.9s
40. Kg2 -1.02/28 5.7s Qc6 +0.88/31 7.4s
41. Rf8 -0.77/29 8.1s Qxa6 +0.97/34 23s
42. Rf3 -0.80/34 11s Qc6 +0.87/29 11s
43. Re2 -0.81/34 5.7s Qc4 +0.95/31 25s
44. Ree3 -0.80/33 6.7s g6 +0.87/29 7.2s
45. Re4 -0.78/27 9.5s Qd5 +0.99/31 6.1s
46. h4 -0.38/32 7.8s h5 +0.88/27 11s
47. Rb4 -0.01/32 8.1s Kg7 +0.70/31 8.5s
48. Ne4 -0.05/35 9.7s Kh6 +0.70/31 8.8s
49. Ng5 -0.09/32 7.0s Bf6 +0.62/30 8.7s
50. Nh3 -0.01/33 5.5s Qc6 +0.54/33 20s
51. Rf4 -0.01/36 8.2s Be7 +0.51/31 6.6s
52. Rd4 -0.01/37 8.6s Bd8 +0.44/33 8.9s
53. Rb4 -0.01/34 5.9s Qc5 +0.40/31 12s
54. Re4 -0.01/34 7.2s Qd5 +0.34/30 7.1s
55. Rb4 -0.01/36 5.9s Bf6 +0.45/31 20s
56. Ra4 -0.01/37 9.8s Be7 +0.28/30 12s
57. Rf4 -0.01/36 13s Qe6 +0.28/31 15s
58. Ra4 -0.01/35 7.3s Qe5 +0.24/31 12s
59. Rf7 -0.01/37 13s Qe6 +0.23/30 5.6s
60. Rf3 -0.01/38 6.2s Qd7 +0.23/32 8.9s
61. Rd4 -0.01/39 8.4s Qb7 +0.23/31 5.5s
62. Rf4 -0.01/39 11s Qa8 +0.22/32 6.5s
63. Rd4 -0.01/38 7.9s Qc6 +0.21/33 10s
64. Rf4 -0.01/39 7.7s Bd8 +0.21/32 12s
65. Rb4 -0.01/39 7.2s Kh7 +0.21/31 15s
66. Rd4 -0.01/37 8.9s Kg7 +0.21/31 9.6s
67. Ng5 -0.01/38 8.2s Be7 +0.15/31 15s
68. Nh3 -0.01/41 8.4s Bf6 +0.09/32 11s
69. Rf4 -0.01/40 10s Bd8 +0.09/29 6.2s
70. Rd4 -0.01/41 7.9s Be7 +0.09/31 6.0s
71. Rf4 -0.01/41 9.3s Kh6 +0.09/32 12s
72. Rd4 -0.01/41 11s Qa8 +0.13/31 13s
73. Nf4 -0.01/37 8.5s Qb7 +0.10/31 18s
74. Nh3 -0.01/38 7.9s Qa8 +0.09/31 5.6s
75. Nf4 -0.01/39 6.7s Qb7 +0.09/32 10s
76. Nh3 -0.01/41 7.6s Kg7 +0.09/33 20s
77. Rf4 -0.01/41 8.4s Qd5 +0.12/27 6.0s
78. Ra4 -0.01/42 7.8s Qb7 +0.09/31 11s
79. Nf4 -0.01/36 8.8s Kh6 +0.28/30 4.6s
80. Nh3 -0.01/38 9.3s d5 +0.27/33 20s
81. Ng5 -0.01/39 7.8s Bxg5 +0.10/30 5.2s
82. hxg5+ -0.01/42 15s Kxg5 +0.12/29 5.7s
83. Rd4 -0.01/43 8.4s Qc6 +0.10/31 5.1s
84. Kg3 -0.01/34 8.3s Kh6 +0.06/30 20s
85. Kg2 -0.01/42 11s Qe6 +0.06/29 5.5s
86. Rh3 -0.01/42 9.1s g5 +0.05/30 4.8s
87. Re3 -0.01/38 11s Qd6 +0.05/30 5.0s
88. Red3 -0.01/38 7.3s h4 +0.04/29 8.2s
89. Rxd5 -0.01/38 8.2s Qf4 +0.04/28 6.7s
90. Rd6+ -0.01/39 9.6s Kh5 +0.02/29 6.4s
91. R6d5 -0.01/38 8.1s Qg4+ +0.01/28 7.1s
92. Kh2 -0.01/39 8.4s Qe4 0.00/34 4.9s
93. Kg1 -0.01/40 7.4s Qe6 0.00/37 4.9s
94. Rd6 -0.01/40 7.5s Qg4+ 0.00/39 5.6s
95. Kh2 -0.01/44 10s Qc8 0.00/42 6.0s
96. Rf6 -0.01/36 8.0s Qc5 0.00/34 5.5s
97. Rdd6 -0.01/37 8.5s Qe5+ 0.00/37 6.0s
98. Kg2 +0.01/39 9.0s h3+ 0.00/39 5.5s
99. Kxh3 +0.01/35 8.2s g4+ 0.00/42 7.2s
100. Kg2 +0.01/38 8.1s Qe4+ 0.00/45 5.9s
101. f3 +0.01/39 8.1s Qe2+ 0.00/31 5.3s
102. Kg3 +0.01/38 6.7s Qe1+ 0.00/33 6.8s
103. Kf4 +0.01/38 9.6s Qc1+ 0.00/33 7.5s
104. Ke4 +0.01/35 6.8s Qc2+ 0.00/34 6.5s
105. Kf4 +0.01/37 9.8s Qc1+ 0.00/36 6.9s
106. Ke4 +0.01/36 6.5s Qc2+ 0.00/32 6.3s
107. Ke3 +0.01/37 7.2s Qc1+ 0.00/36 6.2s
108. Kf2 +0.01/36 9.2s Qb2+ 0.00/33 5.9s
109. Kg3 +0.01/37 7.4s Qe5+ 0.00/43 7.1s
110. Kg2 +0.01/39 6.5s Draw

[Luecx]

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Impressive score of Ethereal Vs Komodo 13.3-64bit-bmi2 at Non Castling Using Cutechess GUI


Jeez, can you please stop doing posts like that? its not that people arent interested in those results but please realize that 27 games is NOTHING. It is not even worth a comparison. If you look at proper testing, you will realize that usually way more than thousand games are required to get the elo bars shrinking. I have had so many runs where Koivisto played itself. No difference in version or anything but after 30 games it was down 1-16. It happens and is completely random. Please stop posting these 27-games tests.

Okay I just played 54 games, but to get an idea you do NOT need 1000 games, it is clear that this Ethereal version is a little bit better than Komodo 13.3-64bit, and Ethereal version 13.25 could be even better than Komodo 14, NOT Komodo Dragon1 of course. I am also wondering if anybody has done any Opening for Non Castling Chess, it should be easy, much easier than creating opening for the Chess960. I also noticed that when GM Anand played versus GM Kramnik they pretty much use the same opening over and over again.

Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-13.3-64bit-bmi2: 4 - 25 - 25 [0.306]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 3 - 10 - 14 [0.370] 27
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 1 - 15 - 11 [0.241] 27
... White vs Black: 18 - 11 - 25 [0.565] 54
Elo difference: -142.6 +/- 69.0, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 46.3 %
54 of 54 games finished.

1. e4 +0.31/25 15s c5 0.00/21 4.4s
2. Nf3 +0.39/25 6.5s Nc6 +0.05/21 3.0s
3. d4 +0.28/25 7.4s cxd4 +0.22/22 2.8s
4. Nxd4 +0.42/25 8.7s e5 +0.23/23 7.0s
5. Nb5 +0.28/25 8.8s d6 +0.09/22 4.6s
6. N1c3 +0.44/25 7.0s a6 +0.17/23 7.2s
7. Na3 +0.18/26 6.6s b5 +0.04/23 6.6s
8. Nd5 +0.60/24 7.0s Nce7 +0.25/23 6.4s
9. c4 +0.38/25 11s Nxd5 +0.06/23 5.4s
10. exd5 +0.34/25 8.5s f5 -0.04/22 4.6s
11. cxb5 +0.60/24 10s Nf6 +0.04/24 12s
12. Bc4 +0.38/24 11s Be7 +0.04/20 6.2s
13. Kf1 +0.38/24 5.7s Kf7 +0.21/23 19s
14. Qe2 +0.53/24 14s axb5 +0.22/24 11s
15. Nxb5 +0.66/24 11s f4 +0.15/22 5.2s
16. h3 +0.37/24 12s Rf8 +0.31/23 6.9s
17. a4 +0.17/27 17s Kg8 0.00/23 3.9s
18. Ra3 +0.49/26 12s Bf5 0.00/24 9.4s
19. Kg1 +0.52/28 15s Bg6 0.00/24 7.4s
20. Kh2 +0.39/29 22s Ne4 -0.22/25 17s
21. Rf1 +0.94/28 13s Qd7 -0.31/25 6.4s
22. Bd3 +0.65/28 12s f3 -0.18/25 6.1s
23. gxf3 +1.11/28 8.5s Ng5 -0.10/26 5.1s
24. Bxg5 +1.20/27 8.2s Bxd3 -0.27/27 7.3s
25. Qxd3 +1.19/26 7.6s Bxg5 -0.30/27 10s
26. Nc3 +1.24/26 9.4s Rf6 -0.47/25 6.9s
27. Ne2 +0.81/25 6.1s Raf8 -0.13/24 9.9s
28. Rg1 +0.01/25 14s Rxf3 +0.15/27 8.8s
29. Qxf3 +0.22/28 14s Rxf3 +0.26/29 11s
30. Rxf3 -0.01/26 4.9s e4 +0.18/28 6.6s
31. Rfg3 -0.01/29 5.1s h6 +0.92/30 19s
32. Rg4 -0.44/26 11s Qf7 +0.88/26 15s
33. a5 -0.40/26 17s Bf6 +0.82/25 11s
34. Rxe4 -0.69/27 9.2s Qxd5 +0.92/26 6.4s
35. Ng3 -0.54/27 5.1s Bxb2 +0.92/29 8.8s
36. a6 -0.74/28 11s Qa5 +0.46/30 38s
37. Rb1 -0.81/28 6.7s Be5 +0.96/29 7.9s
38. Rb8+ -0.83/30 7.3s Kh7 +0.98/30 8.2s
39. Ra8 -0.94/31 8.6s Qc5 +0.89/30 9.9s
40. Kg2 -1.02/28 5.7s Qc6 +0.88/31 7.4s
41. Rf8 -0.77/29 8.1s Qxa6 +0.97/34 23s
42. Rf3 -0.80/34 11s Qc6 +0.87/29 11s
43. Re2 -0.81/34 5.7s Qc4 +0.95/31 25s
44. Ree3 -0.80/33 6.7s g6 +0.87/29 7.2s
45. Re4 -0.78/27 9.5s Qd5 +0.99/31 6.1s
46. h4 -0.38/32 7.8s h5 +0.88/27 11s
47. Rb4 -0.01/32 8.1s Kg7 +0.70/31 8.5s
48. Ne4 -0.05/35 9.7s Kh6 +0.70/31 8.8s
49. Ng5 -0.09/32 7.0s Bf6 +0.62/30 8.7s
50. Nh3 -0.01/33 5.5s Qc6 +0.54/33 20s
51. Rf4 -0.01/36 8.2s Be7 +0.51/31 6.6s
52. Rd4 -0.01/37 8.6s Bd8 +0.44/33 8.9s
53. Rb4 -0.01/34 5.9s Qc5 +0.40/31 12s
54. Re4 -0.01/34 7.2s Qd5 +0.34/30 7.1s
55. Rb4 -0.01/36 5.9s Bf6 +0.45/31 20s
56. Ra4 -0.01/37 9.8s Be7 +0.28/30 12s
57. Rf4 -0.01/36 13s Qe6 +0.28/31 15s
58. Ra4 -0.01/35 7.3s Qe5 +0.24/31 12s
59. Rf7 -0.01/37 13s Qe6 +0.23/30 5.6s
60. Rf3 -0.01/38 6.2s Qd7 +0.23/32 8.9s
61. Rd4 -0.01/39 8.4s Qb7 +0.23/31 5.5s
62. Rf4 -0.01/39 11s Qa8 +0.22/32 6.5s
63. Rd4 -0.01/38 7.9s Qc6 +0.21/33 10s
64. Rf4 -0.01/39 7.7s Bd8 +0.21/32 12s
65. Rb4 -0.01/39 7.2s Kh7 +0.21/31 15s
66. Rd4 -0.01/37 8.9s Kg7 +0.21/31 9.6s
67. Ng5 -0.01/38 8.2s Be7 +0.15/31 15s
68. Nh3 -0.01/41 8.4s Bf6 +0.09/32 11s
69. Rf4 -0.01/40 10s Bd8 +0.09/29 6.2s
70. Rd4 -0.01/41 7.9s Be7 +0.09/31 6.0s
71. Rf4 -0.01/41 9.3s Kh6 +0.09/32 12s
72. Rd4 -0.01/41 11s Qa8 +0.13/31 13s
73. Nf4 -0.01/37 8.5s Qb7 +0.10/31 18s
74. Nh3 -0.01/38 7.9s Qa8 +0.09/31 5.6s
75. Nf4 -0.01/39 6.7s Qb7 +0.09/32 10s
76. Nh3 -0.01/41 7.6s Kg7 +0.09/33 20s
77. Rf4 -0.01/41 8.4s Qd5 +0.12/27 6.0s
78. Ra4 -0.01/42 7.8s Qb7 +0.09/31 11s
79. Nf4 -0.01/36 8.8s Kh6 +0.28/30 4.6s
80. Nh3 -0.01/38 9.3s d5 +0.27/33 20s
81. Ng5 -0.01/39 7.8s Bxg5 +0.10/30 5.2s
82. hxg5+ -0.01/42 15s Kxg5 +0.12/29 5.7s
83. Rd4 -0.01/43 8.4s Qc6 +0.10/31 5.1s
84. Kg3 -0.01/34 8.3s Kh6 +0.06/30 20s
85. Kg2 -0.01/42 11s Qe6 +0.06/29 5.5s
86. Rh3 -0.01/42 9.1s g5 +0.05/30 4.8s
87. Re3 -0.01/38 11s Qd6 +0.05/30 5.0s
88. Red3 -0.01/38 7.3s h4 +0.04/29 8.2s
89. Rxd5 -0.01/38 8.2s Qf4 +0.04/28 6.7s
90. Rd6+ -0.01/39 9.6s Kh5 +0.02/29 6.4s
91. R6d5 -0.01/38 8.1s Qg4+ +0.01/28 7.1s
92. Kh2 -0.01/39 8.4s Qe4 0.00/34 4.9s
93. Kg1 -0.01/40 7.4s Qe6 0.00/37 4.9s
94. Rd6 -0.01/40 7.5s Qg4+ 0.00/39 5.6s
95. Kh2 -0.01/44 10s Qc8 0.00/42 6.0s
96. Rf6 -0.01/36 8.0s Qc5 0.00/34 5.5s
97. Rdd6 -0.01/37 8.5s Qe5+ 0.00/37 6.0s
98. Kg2 +0.01/39 9.0s h3+ 0.00/39 5.5s
99. Kxh3 +0.01/35 8.2s g4+ 0.00/42 7.2s
100. Kg2 +0.01/38 8.1s Qe4+ 0.00/45 5.9s
101. f3 +0.01/39 8.1s Qe2+ 0.00/31 5.3s
102. Kg3 +0.01/38 6.7s Qe1+ 0.00/33 6.8s
103. Kf4 +0.01/38 9.6s Qc1+ 0.00/33 7.5s
104. Ke4 +0.01/35 6.8s Qc2+ 0.00/34 6.5s
105. Kf4 +0.01/37 9.8s Qc1+ 0.00/36 6.9s
106. Ke4 +0.01/36 6.5s Qc2+ 0.00/32 6.3s
107. Ke3 +0.01/37 7.2s Qc1+ 0.00/36 6.2s
108. Kf2 +0.01/36 9.2s Qb2+ 0.00/33 5.9s
109. Kg3 +0.01/37 7.4s Qe5+ 0.00/43 7.1s
110. Kg2 +0.01/39 6.5s Draw

You dont even read the scores correctly.

4 - 25 - 25 means ethereal won 4 games, lost 25 and 25 draws.

[Chessqueen]

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Impressive score of Ethereal Vs Komodo 13.3-64bit-bmi2 at Non Castling Using Cutechess GUI


Jeez, can you please stop doing posts like that? its not that people arent interested in those results but please realize that 27 games is NOTHING. It is not even worth a comparison. If you look at proper testing, you will realize that usually way more than thousand games are required to get the elo bars shrinking. I have had so many runs where Koivisto played itself. No difference in version or anything but after 30 games it was down 1-16. It happens and is completely random. Please stop posting these 27-games tests.

Okay I just played 54 games, but to get an idea you do NOT need 1000 games, it is clear that this Ethereal version is a little bit better than Komodo 13.3-64bit, and Ethereal version 13.25 could be even better than Komodo 14, NOT Komodo Dragon1 of course. I am also wondering if anybody has done any Opening for Non Castling Chess, it should be easy, much easier than creating opening for the Chess960. I also noticed that when GM Anand played versus GM Kramnik they pretty much use the same opening over and over again.

Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-13.3-64bit-bmi2: 4 - 25 - 25 [0.306]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 3 - 10 - 14 [0.370] 27
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 1 - 15 - 11 [0.241] 27
... White vs Black: 18 - 11 - 25 [0.565] 54
Elo difference: -142.6 +/- 69.0, LOS: 0.0 %, DrawRatio: 46.3 %
54 of 54 games finished.



You don't even read the scores correctly.

4 - 25 - 25 means ethereal won 4 games, lost 25 and 25 draws.

I know how to read it even the free version of Komodo 12 can beat Ethereal; I did it to piss Andrew Grant, since he posted this ==>

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

[Guenther]

You don't even read the scores correctly.

4 - 25 - 25 means ethereal won 4 games, lost 25 and 25 draws.

I know how to read it even the free version of Komodo 12 can beat Ethereal; I did it to piss Andrew Grant, since he posted this ==>

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Still the bad old troller cheesequeen? It's a miracle you are still allowed here after all those years...

[Chessqueen]

You don't even read the scores correctly.

4 - 25 - 25 means ethereal won 4 games, lost 25 and 25 draws.

I know how to read it even the free version of Komodo 12 can beat Ethereal; I did it to piss Andrew Grant, since he posted this ==>

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Still the bad old troller cheesequeen? It's a miracle you are still allowed here after all those years...

Why are you trying to throw paper and diesel into the forest and burn it, are you trying to prolong this post or you ignored what Andrew Grant posted?

No further conversation on this thread is needed.

NOTE: Yes I was wrong to say that Komodo 12 is stronger than the newer version of Ethereal 13.25, it is slightly weaker.

[Chessqueen]

You don't even read the scores correctly.

4 - 25 - 25 means ethereal won 4 games, lost 25 and 25 draws.

I know how to read it even the free version of Komodo 12 can beat Ethereal; I did it to piss Andrew Grant, since he posted this ==>

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

Still the bad old troller cheesequeen? It's a miracle you are still allowed here after all those years...

Why are you trying to throw paper and diesel into the forest and burn it, are you trying to prolong this post or you ignored what Andrew Grant posted?

No further conversation on this thread is needed.

I decided to let Ethereal play against Komodo 12.1 and so far the score for Ethereal is won 1 Lost 2 and Draw 6

Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-12.1.1-64bit-bmi2: 1 - 2 - 6 [0.444]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 1 - 0 - 4 [0.600] 5
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 0 - 2 - 2 [0.250] 4
... White vs Black: 3 - 0 - 6 [0.667] 9
Elo difference: -38.8 +/- 137.0, LOS: 28.2 %, DrawRatio: 66.7 %
9 of 30 games finished.


NOTE: Yes I was wrong to say that Komodo 12 is stronger than the newer version of Ethereal 13.25, it is slightly weaker.

[Chessqueen]

All of them, if you set up a position with a FEN.

No further conversation on the thread needed.

NOTE: Ethereal 13.25 might be equal to Komodo 13.3 after all, but some people with both versions can test them.

I decided to let Ethereal play against Komodo 12.1 and so far the score for Ethereal is won 2 Lost 4 and Draw 10
Score of Ethereal-pext-avx2 vs komodo-12.1.1-64bit-bmi2: 2 - 4 - 10 [0.438]
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing White: 1 - 1 - 6 [0.500] 8
... Ethereal-pext-avx2 playing Black: 1 - 3 - 4 [0.375] 8
... White vs Black: 4 - 2 - 10 [0.563] 16
Elo difference: -43.7 +/- 106.9, LOS: 20.7 %, DrawRatio: 62.5 %
16 of 30 games finished.