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Re: Intel 12th-gen CPU

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Milos wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:08 pm
yurikvelo wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:57 pm This is not possible in Poland, because government cancelled spectrum auction in 2020 and plan to sell high frequencies in late 2022
I am sorry for the situation in Poland but this really sounds like a third world country. I have unlimited 4G/5G plan in Switzerland for 30chf/month. That is less than 30 eur/month. In Switzerland we only have unlimited data plans since more than 10 years.
Wired net I pay also 30 chf/month (with some discount due to mobile subscription) that includes 10Gbps fibre, fixed phone and TV packages of all kinds.

My point, justifying 5G as a patch band aid for thieving mobile service providers and corrupted state is kind of ridiculous.
With all due respect - and I have no dog in the hunt, Switzerland is a LOT smaller country they either Poland or the US where I live. One can't scale things up/down and 'prove' one is a 1st or 3rd world country on the basis of such plans...

Just wanted to say that, not engage in any debate...
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Re: Intel 12th-gen CPU

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No need for 5G with such small data demand:

According to recent "Quantifying the Impact of 5G and COVID-19 on Mobile Data Consumption report", Swiss smartphone users consumed 8.7 GB/month of data in Q1 2019, rising to 14.4 GB/month in Q1 2020 and 15 GB/month in Q1 2021.

Swisscom warned in its 2020 annual report that “...mobile expansion can no longer keep up with the increasing volume of data traffic…” It added that “5G could ease the situation with the necessary hardware adjustments, but expansion is stalling as a result of resistance and regional moratoria”.
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Re: Intel 12th-gen CPU

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yurikvelo wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:07 am No need for 5G with such small data demand:

According to recent "Quantifying the Impact of 5G and COVID-19 on Mobile Data Consumption report", Swiss smartphone users consumed 8.7 GB/month of data in Q1 2019, rising to 14.4 GB/month in Q1 2020 and 15 GB/month in Q1 2021.

Swisscom warned in its 2020 annual report that “...mobile expansion can no longer keep up with the increasing volume of data traffic…” It added that “5G could ease the situation with the necessary hardware adjustments, but expansion is stalling as a result of resistance and regional moratoria”.
Yeah there is a lot of resistance from local communities and regulations (completely reasonable, ppl don't want antennas next to their noses) and the monopolist (Swisscom) is trying all possible strategies to push it, but there is clearly no justification by the demand despite extremely aggressive marketing campaigns.
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Re: Intel 12th-gen CPU

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Cornfed wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:07 am With all due respect - and I have no dog in the hunt, Switzerland is a LOT smaller country they either Poland or the US where I live. One can't scale things up/down and 'prove' one is a 1st or 3rd world country on the basis of such plans...

Just wanted to say that, not engage in any debate...
Ofc this is not only thing that could classify USA as a third world country (there is ton of things like health care, transportation, voting, etc, etc, really no point mentioning it all).
But if you compare mobile data and overall internet typical bandwidth you'd see USA is very, very far from global leading countries.
I agree Poland is much larger than Switzerland, but as a comparison you can take "old EU" (original 15 EU members that is much larger market even compared to US) and you'd see a stark difference to Poland or USA for the matter.