94th Amateur Series Division 3

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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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Graham,

more important as support the authors of TOP-40 engines, same opinion!
Many authors are lost for that reason that we give best engines to many attention.

But where I should start if 1.000 engines are available?

Perhaps we should build more groups here ...
Active engines, full under development with a hint of programmers ... need help for testing!

Note:
Many programmers search the way to chess server or hold his programs private.
To fight vs. chess server produced the result: 0:1

Engines lovers like you or like me have 0 chance.
Found perhaps 10 or 20 of 1.000 programmers give comments to the work we do.

Unfortunately, Winboard times are a long time over!
The programmers are more in the middle of users in winboard times!

Best
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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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Frank Quisinsky wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:57 pm Roc is GullChess?!
Hi, Frank!
Taking into account that Roc is a derivative from Gull by Vadim Demichev, here we have the fight between two top Russian engines. The other two are Counter by Vadinm Chizhov and SmarThink by Sergey Markov. By the way, it's a shame for me that Sergey stopped developping his engine as SmarThink is a unique and very interesting project!
Incredibly fast systems miscount incredibly fast.
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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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Hi Aleksey,

you are welcome!

In the beginning of the development from SmarThink I had a lot of contacts to Sergey.
A very nice guy full of ideas in combination with fantasy ... for try out complicated things.

Smathink is max. interesting. Positional chess is just great, many own ideas.
The problem is the king safety and tactics, not the strategy.

After all the contacts with him in the past I am very sure that Sergey will never give up his baby.
Time will come and a newer version is available for us. He is too much in love with chess programmings and Sergey know that his own work is strong.

Counter is also very interesting ... very balanced chess engine. Need a speedup and the strength will explode.
I am using GullChes Sy ... a very fast compile I found in a message in Chess2u forum.

After I remember I try out Roc for FCP Tourney-2020 but after a technical problem I stopped without to looking more in detail. Gull is the strongest IPP in my opinion!

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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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Frank Quisinsky wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:29 pm Counter is also very interesting ... very balanced chess engine. Need a speedup and the strength will explode.
I watched quite a lot of games by Counter. Its problem is that it often gets into cramped positions, underestimating this factor.
Frank Quisinsky wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:29 pm I am using GullChes Sy ... a very fast compile I found in a message in Chess2u forum.
This version (popcnt) along with the standard Gull 3 is now playing in my Tournament for 3100-3350 ELO engines. I'll post the first results in a couple of days.
Incredibly fast systems miscount incredibly fast.
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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 30

18.0 - Uralochka 3.35a 64-bit
18.0 - Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
17.5 - Roc 1.8 64-bit
16.0 - Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit
16.0 - Halogen 10 64-bit
15.5 - Expositor 2WN29 64-bit
14.5 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
14.5 - DanaSah 9.00 64-bit
14.0 - Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
14.0 - LG Evolution 3.15.4 64-bit
13.5 - Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit
8.5 - FabChess 1.16 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=14245

Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
http://tlcv.net/16092

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Standings after Round 36

23.5 - Uralochka 3.35a 64-bit
20.5 - Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
19.0 - Roc 1.8 64-bit
19.0 - DanaSah 9.00 64-bit
18.5 - Expositor 2WN29 64-bit
18.5 - Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit
18.5 - Halogen 10 64-bit
18.0 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
17.0 - Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
17.0 - LG Evolution 3.15.4 64-bit
16.0 - Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit
10.5 - FabChess 1.16 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=14245

Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
http://tlcv.net/16092

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)
The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.
Final Standings

29.0 - Uralochka 3.35a 64-bit
24.5 - Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
23.0 - Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
22.5 - Roc 1.8 64-bit
22.5 - Expositor 2WN29 64-bit
22.5 - DanaSah 9.00 64-bit
22.0 - LG Evolution 3.15.4 64-bit
22.0 - Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit
22.0 - Halogen 10 64-bit
21.5 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
18.5 - Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit
14.0 - FabChess 1.16 64-bit


The complete tournament pgn (zipped) can be downloaded here:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=50836
gbanksnz at gmail.com
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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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Congratulations to Ivan (Uralochka author) for a convincing tournament victory, and for gaining promtion into Division 2 of the next series. :)

If the new Expositor proves to be of Division 2 standard, it could well be promoted as well.

Thanks to everybody who took an interest.
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Re: 94th Amateur Series Division 3

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Graham Banks wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:34 am Congratulations to Ivan (Uralochka author) for a convincing tournament victory, and for gaining promtion into Division 2 of the next series. :)

If the new Expositor proves to be of Division 2 standard, it could well be promoted as well.

Thanks to everybody who took an interest.
Hi Graham,

Thanks for this tournament! It was interesting to watch the games of these engines. I hope Uralochka will play well in the next division. :)