94th Amateur Series Division 3

[Graham Banks]

94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)

The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.

Participants

Uralochka 3.53a 64-bit (new)
Danasah 9.00 64-bit (relegated)
Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
LG Evolution NN 3.15.4 64-bit
Expositor 2WN29 64-bit (promoted)
Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit (relegated)
Halogen 10 64-bit
Roc 1.8 64-bit
Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit (promoted)
FabChess 1.16 64-bit (promoted)


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=14245

Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
http://tlcv.net/16092

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/

[Graham Banks]

94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)

The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.

Standings after Round 6

4.0 - Halogen 10 64-bit
4.0 - Uralochka 3.35a 64-bit
4.0 - Roc 1.8 64-bit
3.5 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
3.5 - LG Evolution 3.15.4 64-bit
3.5 - Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit
3.0 - Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
2.5 - Expositor 2WN29 64-bit
2.5 - DanaSah 9.00 64-bit
2.5 - Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
2.0 - FabChess 1.16 64-bit
1.0 - Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=14245

Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
http://tlcv.net/16092

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/

[Graham Banks]

94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)

The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.

Standings after Round 12

8.0 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
8.0 - Uralochka 3.35a 64-bit
7.0 - Roc 1.8 64-bit
6.5 - Halogen 10 64-bit
6.5 - Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
6.5 - LG Evolution 3.15.4 64-bit
6.0 - Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit
5.5 - DanaSah 9.00 64-bit
5.5 - Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
5.0 - Expositor 2WN29 64-bit
4.0 - FabChess 1.16 64-bit
3.5 - Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=14245

Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
http://tlcv.net/16092

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/

[Graham Banks]

94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)

The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.

Standings after Round 18

11.5 - Uralochka 3.35a 64-bit
10.5 - Roc 1.8 64-bit
10.0 - Expositor 2WN29 64-bit
10.0 - Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
9.5 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
9.5 - Halogen 10 64-bit
9.5 - LG Evolution 3.15.4 64-bit
9.0 - DanaSah 9.00 64-bit
8.5 - Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit
8.0 - Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
7.0 - Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit
5.0 - FabChess 1.16 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=14245

Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
http://tlcv.net/16092

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/

[Graham Banks]

94TH AMATEUR SERIES (Division 3)

Intel i7 Quad
ChessGUI
256mb hash each
3-4-5 piece tablebases
Ponder off
Top15-2022.cgb book (limited to 8 moves depth)
40 moves in 16 minutes repeating (adapted for the CCRL)
4 cycles 44 rounds
All engines 64-bit 1CPU (where available)

The top engine will gain automatic promotion and the bottom engine will gain automatic relegation. Any other changes of division will be at my discretion and may not necessarily involve playoff matches.

Standings after Round 24

14.5 - Uralochka 3.35a 64-bit
14.5 - Roc 1.8 64-bit
14.0 - Black Marlin 5.0 64-bit
13.0 - Halogen 10 64-bit
13.0 - DanaSah 9.00 64-bit
12.5 - Expositor 2WN29 64-bit
12.0 - LG Evolution 3.15.4 64-bit
11.5 - Dark Toga 1.1 64-bit
11.5 - Nirvanachess 2.5 64-bit
10.5 - Drofa 3.3.0 64-bit
9.5 - Mantissa 3.3.0 64-bit
7.5 - FabChess 1.16 64-bit


Games and standings will be available after every six rounds from the following link:
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... =7&t=14245

Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
http://tlcv.net/16092

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16092

Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Graham,

Roc is GullChess?!
From IPP times? Think so!

FabChess and Amoeba have around the same level?
Will looking later this evening in CCRL ratings.

Have a nice evening!

Uralochka is very strong.
I think in my list over 3200 Elo.
In CCRL around 3325 or a bit higher (the last version).

The style of chess is great, we will have a lot of fun with Uralochka.

Best
Frank

[Graham Banks]

It's sad that many enthusiasts are only interested in the top few engines.

These engines are very strong and can produce some wonderful games too.

Even in my lowest divisions, there are great games. We call the level of chess there as understandable to humans.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Graham,

I know that and have a bad conscience to test the strongest programs.
In winboard times I tested all what is available a very long time.

The problem ...
Over 1.000 different engines are available.

You are World's engine tester number 1.
You can ... Leo do that also a long time.
http://arnaud.loheac.free.fr/ ... different others can.

I like self playing and using a lot of engines!
Using, Wasp on DGT with different levels, the old Phalanx 22, AnMon or SSEChess, the old Zarkov or the old DOS program Tjes (from The Netherland), an old Zeus from Spain (DOS program), CT-800 or CheckCheck. Different older chess computers all the time. And believe me ... so long I can play chess, so long will be Zarkov, AnMon the others my opponents.

On my website I add information about my TOP-Level tourneys for the reason that I am working with the games on a new book system. The second reason (main reason) I need stronger opponents for testing current Wasp versions. To have own ratings is great for give John information. The others can use the information too.

But you are to 100% right!

The same fun ... maybe more fun ... we can have with a 41er tourney with 2300 Elo engines.
More fun because ... the move average is lesser, more short games and often we understand better what engines are able to play!



Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

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  39. Chiron 5                   :  3102.77   1.200    33.4   107   588   505   401.0   49.0   12.23  3239.50  12.00     89 /  89
  40. Andscacs 0.95              :  3101.36   1.200    33.3    99   600   501   399.0   50.0   12.57  3239.53  11.99     92 /  83
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  41. Black Marlin 5.0 NN        :  3067.20   1.200    29.3    61   582   557   352.0   48.5   12.70  3240.39  11.98     90 /  87
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  MoveAvg (average)           : 181.53 / 90.765
  White advantage             : 66.14  +/- 1.42
  Draw rate (equal opponents) : 74.56% +/- 0.41

  Games        :  24.600 (finished)
  White Wins   :   7.294 (29.7%)
  Black Wins   :   3.408 (13.9%)
  Draws        :  13.898 (56.5%)

  White Perf.  : 57.9%
  Black Perf.  : 42.1%
  

Looking here ...
90,765 move average in my run-4.
People lost interest to test engines on high-level niveau with such a move-average.

From the first 2460 games from my current run-6 =

100 - 199 moves = 720 games = 29,26%
200 - 299 moves = 051 games = 2,073% ... and here ... it goes higher and higher!!

Very danger situation in computer chess.
And on the end of the day the people installed 2300 - 2400 or 2400 - 2500 Elo engines on HD.
Back to the roots!

The 100% logical reverse conclution in around 4-5 years!
Danger ...

Best
Frank

But we have all the nice engines with lesser playing strength and the tourneys from you and others!
The work you do here is indeed very important!!

[Graham Banks]

Thanks, Frank.

I think it's important to support the authors of these engines.