hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
It is Not a better move, since you never know what your opponent is thinking at that time and you have to play for a chance of your opponent going wrong, and I prefer to set up the known trap then to take a route which will lead to losing after an agonizing long time playing
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
If you are playing with the Black pieces and you and your opponent have between 1 to 1.5 minutes left on the clock which route would you go?
PS: I know that 99% of the masters and GMs will select to set up the trap, in which your opponent will most likely promote to a Queen allowing you to Stalemate and draw the game.
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
If you are playing with the Black pieces and you and your opponent have between 1 to 1.5 minutes left on the clock which route would you go?
PS: I know that 99% of the masters and GMs will select to set up the trap, in which your opponent will most likely promote to a Queen allowing you to Stalemate and draw the game.
I think that I am going not to set up the trap espacially in this case.
If my opponent is in time trouble my best hope is to survive in KR vs KQ endgame because I expect the opponent to know the stalemate trap and not to fall into it because it is a famous trap.
I do not think that 99% of the masters are going to set up the trap.
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
Not really, the version of Komodo that can see this is not even close from being released yet since it is an experiment, therefore Komodo 4 which is the latest available version can NOT see it when it plays as Black
Nor it can not find the correct winning combination for White Bishop+Rook versus Queen in this position Bf8+ .This is where top GMs are superior to top engines in long term calculation and able to detect a position that will lead the White Pieces to win at the end by forcing Black into a discovery check that lead to winning the Queen.
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
Not really, the version of Komodo that can see this is not even close from being released yet since it is an experiment, therefore Komodo 4 which is the latest available version can NOT see it when it plays as Black
Nor it can not find the correct winning combination for White Bishop+Rook versus Queen in this position Bf8+ .This is where top GMs are superior to top engines in long term calculation and able to detect a position that will lead the White Pieces to win at the end by forcing Black into a discovery check that lead to winning the Queen.
[d]6R1/8/2pB3k/2P4p/5p1q/5P2/4P1K1/8 w - - 0 1
I don't like playing an ending that last forever like komodo forced me to play if it let me promote to a Queen here is the ending game:
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
Not really, the version of Komodo that can see this is not even close from being released yet since it is an experiment, therefore Komodo 4 which is the latest available version can NOT see it when it plays as Black
Nor it can not find the correct winning combination for White Bishop+Rook versus Queen in this position Bf8+ .This is where top GMs are superior to top engines in long term calculation and able to detect a position that will lead the White Pieces to win at the end by forcing Black into a discovery check that lead to winning the Queen.
[d]6R1/8/2pB3k/2P4p/5p1q/5P2/4P1K1/8 w - - 0 1
I don't like playing an ending that last forever like komodo forced me to play if it let me promote to a Queen here is the ending game:
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
Not really, the version of Komodo that can see this is not even close from being released yet since it is an experiment, therefore Komodo 4 which is the latest available version can NOT see it when it plays as Black
Nor it can not find the correct winning combination for White Bishop+Rook versus Queen in this position Bf8+ .This is where top GMs are superior to top engines in long term calculation and able to detect a position that will lead the White Pieces to win at the end by forcing Black into a discovery check that lead to winning the Queen.
[d]6R1/8/2pB3k/2P4p/5p1q/5P2/4P1K1/8 w - - 0 1
I don't like playing an ending that last forever like komodo forced me to play if it let me promote to a Queen here is the ending game:
something is wrong with this pgn.
5...Rd2 after 4...Rc3 is not legal.
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
Not really, the version of Komodo that can see this is not even close from being released yet since it is an experiment, therefore Komodo 4 which is the latest available version can NOT see it when it plays as Black
Except that my statement, which you so happily quote out of context, was a reply to a post of yours where you were discussing the unreleased Komodo, and had actually quoted its moves (originally posted by Don) in that post,
It seems you are spewing out so much nonsense in this thread that you now are losing track of it yourself!
hgm wrote:Well, that is what Marco has been explaining to you the whole time: setting up the trap is a blunder, DTM-wise, because it gets you checkmated very quickly (if the opponent does not let himself be suckered into it). Komodo of course sees this, so it prefers to avoid the futile trap, and play a better move in stead.
Not really, the version of Komodo that can see this is not even close from being released yet since it is an experiment, therefore Komodo 4 which is the latest available version can NOT see it when it plays as Black
Except that my statement, which you so happily quote out of context, was a reply to a post of yours where you were discussing the unreleased Komodo, and had actually quoted its moves (originally posted by Don) in that post,
It seems you are spewing out so much nonsense in this thread that you now are losing track of it yourself!
You were not specific in your statement , you should have said "therefore the experimental version of Komodo which Don Dailey is working on can NOT see it when it plays as Black"
